Is this Site taking from DREAMVIEWS??

i was surfing the web on Lucid Dreaming and stumbled upon some stuff that seeme'd really familiar to how DV has its worded..

OTHER SITE:

Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreaming

Developed by Dr. Stephen LaBerge, Ph.D., this is the technique which I, personally, have found most beneficial to my lucidity. It makes use of autosuggestion and visualization in a combination that can have amazing results even after the very first time that you use it.

1. Relax completely and get yourself into a comfortable position in bed.

2. As practiced in the autosuggestion technique, repeat to yourself as you fall asleep:

"I will wake up after every dream period and I will remember my dream"

Believe that you will wake up after every dream you have. The very first time I used this technique, I did wake up immediately after each dream period.

3. When you wake up during the night, immediately rouse yourself and write down everything you can remember about your dream. Even if you can barely remember anything, write down how the dream made you feel, or how you felt when you woke up.

4. Lie down again, and as you drift back to sleep, imagine that you are back in the dream that you just had. This time, however, imagine that you saw a dreamsign in your dream and recognized it. Try to think of a dreamsign that fits with the dream and falls under your most successful dreamsign category. As you fall asleep, keep visualizing yourself in your dream, recognizing your dreamsign, and realizing that you are in a dream.

5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 every time that you awaken during the night, even if your dream was already lucid.





DREAM VIEWS:

1. Find a position that works for you and that you can easily and comfortably fall asleep.

2. Relax (Refer to the Relaxation section above this)

3. Repeat to yourself as you fall asleep: "I will wake up after every dream period and I will remember my dream" Believe that you will wake up after each dream you have. (The first time I’ve tried this it has worked moderately well; another way you could do this is set your alarm, but practice makes perfect)

4. When you wake up write down your dream immediately. Even if you can barely remember anything, write down how the dream made you feel, or how you felt when you woke up.

5. Lie down and drift back to sleep. Imagine that you are back in the dream that you just had. This time, however, imagine that you saw a dreamsign in your dream and recognized it. As you fall asleep keep visualizing yourself in your dream, recognizing your dreamsign, and realizing that you are in a dream. (Note: try not to let your mind wonder on this step as well as step 3)

6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 every time that you awaken during the night.




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that is where i found it, there are some other stuff that i know i have read at DV's that is reallly really similar..i dont know if they are stealing or what, but i thought i woudl share this with all us DV people!

if u look at the last #'s they are exactly worded the same..so what is up with that??

i dunnno maybe they said that "this techicqe was introuded by stephen laberge" or something

hmmmmm what is the major coincidence is that i was reading some MILD stuff on the web lastnight too. basically all the good websites have it word for word out of stephen lebergs lucid dreaming book. so thats why. i found hella website all with same exact wording aswell.

kinda funny. i read some of lebergs book online lastnight at amazon (it had the first few pages of chapter one) and then i had a dream this morning that i was at boarders books and was holding a copy of his book and saw some there lding books too. haha then i saw a little like 2 inch paper and all it said was "complete your goals" then i said to my mom, "who the heck needs self help like that". cant believe i didnt get lucid though even though i was holding his book on lucid dreaming. it is cool that more and more of my dreams are now about LDing and noticing my dream signs. kinda like how you were before u kept getting those lucids. should be soon for me!

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Originally posted by jay dawg
hmmmmm what is the major coincidence is that i was reading some MILD stuff on the web lastnight too. basically all the good websites have it word for word out of stephen lebergs lucid dreaming book. so thats why. i found hella website all with same exact wording aswell.

kinda funny. i read some of lebergs book online lastnight at amazon (it had the first few pages of chapter one) and then i had a dream this morning that i was at boarders books and was holding a copy of his book and saw some there lding books too. haha then i saw a little like 2 inch paper and all it said was \"complete your goals\" then i said to my mom, \"who the heck needs self help like that\". *cant believe i didnt get lucid though even though i was holding his book on lucid dreaming. *it is cool that more and more of my dreams are now about LDing and noticing my dream signs. *kinda like how you were before u kept getting those lucids. should be soon for me!

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That sounds like a really cool dream.

Who cares? I've seen Dreamviews' articles copied word for word on some sites, but they've been credited where it's required. The last thing lucid dreaming really needs is for some sort of 'copy police' to emerge who try and stop people from posting articles that may indeed be similar to one another - because those in turn were all probably paraphrased from Stephen LaBerge or something. I thought we wanted people to get the word out about LD'ing?

Using Copyscape, it tells me there are no really obvious plagarisms out there on the internet of Dreamviews' index page (feel free to do the others if you really cared that much).

wow, was i just asking a question...i know i'm a lil prick about it...so have a good day, and dream lucid

I don't care where they get the information. It works. I don't think this site is making money off their teachings, and La Berge has gained a lot of extra recognition from this site, so he is definately not getting screwed over in any way. The teachings on this web site are a gift.

I doubt it's copied. Any version would have to be very close to the actual method itself, and there are only so many ways to word it. It's likely that most versions would look similar, even if written by very different people.

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Originally posted by jay dawg
hmmmmm what is the major coincidence is that i was reading some MILD stuff on the web lastnight too. basically all the good websites have it word for word out of stephen lebergs lucid dreaming book. so thats why. i found hella website all with same exact wording aswell.

kinda funny. i read some of lebergs book online lastnight at amazon (it had the first few pages of chapter one) and then i had a dream this morning that i was at boarders books and was holding a copy of his book and saw some there lding books too. haha then i saw a little like 2 inch paper and all it said was \"complete your goals\" then i said to my mom, \"who the heck needs self help like that\". cant believe i didnt get lucid though even though i was holding his book on lucid dreaming. it is cool that more and more of my dreams are now about LDing and noticing my dream signs. kinda like how you were before u kept getting those lucids. should be soon for me!

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Oh, I think I know the meaning of that dream. I think you believe that your mom need to complete her goals. That's what I think.

Or it means that you father is afraid of tarantulas with 3 legs. Either or.

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Oh, I think I know the meaning of that dream. I think you believe that your mom need to complete her goals. That's what I think.

Or it means that you father is afraid of tarantulas with 3 legs. Either or.

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haha maybe! or it could of been my mind telling me LDing is really easy just set your mind to do it and thats all u need to know. maybe...

im with u on the tarantulas theory! :lol:

I don't think anything here was intentionally copied, however, a technique is a techniquem and any explaination of them is likely to be 90%+ similar.

We have the greated respect and gratitude here for the work LaBerge has done and do not wish to steal any of his credit.