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      R.E.M. sleep in Naps

      Hey Dreamiviews.
      I have tried to research a little about how naps work but I can't seem to find any info beyond the usual:

      - Your awareness is more alert during naps
      - You skip deep sleep and go directly to R.E.M

      In particular I would like to know why we go directly into R.E.M or if it is even correct. What are the physical differences between regular sleep and naps and can you nap at night?

      I like understanding stuff compared to just knowing how to use it

      Ps. don't feel bound to what I stated above. As long as your information is related to naps and not extremely common knowledge I wanna know it!
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      I would also like to know a lot about this as I am going to start taking a nap every weekend :3

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      The timing of sleep in humans depends upon a balance between homeostatic sleep propensity, the need for sleep as a function of the amount of time elapsed since the last adequate sleep episode, and circadian rhythms which determine the ideal timing of a correctly structured and restorative sleep episode. The homeostatic pressure to sleep starts growing upon awakening. The circadian signal for wakefulness starts building in the (late) afternoon.
      Thus, in many people, there is a dip when the drive for sleep has been building for hours and the drive for wakefulness has not yet started. This is a great time for a nap. The drive for wakefulness intensifies through the evening, making it difficult to get to sleep 2–3 hours before one's usual bedtime when the wake maintenance zone ends.
      Just a quick extract on circadian rythm there. We can see that there is a natural dip during the time people take naps. The reason our body goes through all the N-rem stages during normal sleep is because our body has been producing melatonin due to the dim light. Melatonin causes us to go quickly into a dreamless restorative sleep. Since our body knows it has just worked for an entire day, it knows there is a need for deep sleep before REM sleep. The que to start this is a drop in body temperature and increase in melatonin levels.
      In the time span of a nap there is little use for deep sleep, also melatonin levels are almost non-existant and our body's temperature is level since we have usually just eaten. These signals tell the brain that it is only having a nap allowing it to go straight to REM since all we want is to sort the mind and not any bodily processes.
      I believe it is around 45 mins of nap time before we truly fall into REM sleep, compare this to the nightly time of 80-100 minutes it is quite a bit faster.

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      I 'like' the above post. Thank you, dutchraptor!
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      I have dreamed during some fairly short naps before.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      Just a quick extract on circadian rythm there etc. etc.
      Thanks Dutchraptor that helped me a lot!
      Was quite a tough read just after waking up but I think I understood it (with a few google searches)
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      Quick question though, how having unusual sleep schedule affects those times, if at all?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Checker666 View Post
      Quick question though, how having unusual sleep schedule affects those times, if at all?
      I was gonna ask something like that aswell when I got home from school... Now I'm home

      When I had my first (and so far only) lucid dream I had been napping a couple of hours in the afternoon. At night I was in my bed with my computer and at a point I got tired to the point where I couldn't keep focus on my computer so I closed my computer and my eyes and fell asleep instantly. (this was around 1-1:30 am) I know that I went almost instantly into REM cause I woke up from my lucid dream at 1:40.

      I'm thinking that it might have effectively been a nap. Could also be because I was really tired (sleep deprivation)?
      What do you guys think?

      edit: Could the nap have effected my REM cycle in the night?
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      ^^ interesting story man! Not sure about it though :/

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