The question is really simple. Have you ever seen someone reality check in real life? If you have please elaborate :)
Personally I have been trying to spot if anyone would be rcing, but until now I haven't seen anyone do it..
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The question is really simple. Have you ever seen someone reality check in real life? If you have please elaborate :)
Personally I have been trying to spot if anyone would be rcing, but until now I haven't seen anyone do it..
I'd love to see someone RC in real life, just to confirm that there are lucid dreamers that live in my area. It'd be nice to know a LDer in real life. <:
Nope...lucid dreaming seems weird to most of the people out there but not me :panic:
No, I have not, but I have also had the thought that it would be cool. I should seriously start looking. Also maybe I should start being more obvious in my own RCs in public to allow someone else to spot me. :)
No, everyone around me seems on a hurry and are so absent-minded that they startle when someone comes up behind them, and almost everyone seems very uncomfortable when I mention lucid dreaming to them.
I honestly doubt that around 17% of the world population experiences lucid dreams more than once per month - 17‰ sounds more likely.
I do know that a few of my family members and relatives at least know about lucid dreaming and are mildly fascinated by them, though.
Never.. when someone sees me do it and i tell them why, they just say i'm crazy and that controling your dreams and making them as vivid and lucid as real life is impossible and i should get a proper hobby (as if i need more hobbies anyways)
One of my mother's friends told me that she is an occasional lucid dreamer, so I met one person who does LD.
It's one of the best hobbies in the world because you can do anything in a lucid dream. These crazy people don't know what they're missing out on!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo96
Cool idea with the avatar, if this your RC, jammerro!
I never saw somebody do one of the more open RCs like nose-plug or really intensely, not somehow camouflaged hand-looking.
But I think, I can - or at least could do these inconspicuous as well - take a handkerchief and pretend a cold, maybe..?
The thing with awareness to the surroundings - well - not a lot to witness, that is correct Laurelindo.
Once you look yourself for it - not many seem to have it switched on in normal life.
That does not mean, though, that it is never switched on. Some people open up less easily than others while commuting or else in public - for various reasons.
But I know people who lucid dream - some just like that - esp. only, when they were children - and some have learnt it.
A friend of mine per Castaneda - but in the end, that brought her off it - under the assumption - which the books plant - that it would be dangerous.
Another friend learned it from other books - he also meditates.
Then there are quite many people, who have heard of it - and many, who are interested, when I told them lately.
Including my darts-buddies.
Not one person has reacted even with disbelief - let alone antagonism.
Probably I am a lucky person, with whom I am in contact.
Maybe itīs Germany..
German Wikipedia:
Studies differ concerning the percentage of a population to lucid dream between 26 % and 82%.
Depending on the group asked - the below study is prone to high results, simply because of general interest almost being preprogrammed - or more random samples.
Also percentage does depend on the narrowness in definition of LD.
One study from 2004 with 444 German psychology students has also studied frequency:
Never 18,0 %
Less than once a year 7,5 %
Once a year 10,9 %
Around 2 - 4 per year 26,7 %
Once a month 16,2 %
Around 2- 3 a month 10,3 %
Once a week 8,0 %
More than once a week 2,5 %
Soo - donīt be pessimistic!! Attachment 6062
Let's be real. Don't we sort of look both ways before RCing in public? lol
Nod, so that's why I am suggesting, let's start doing more obvious RCs ourselves now in public - I think I shall. I am past the age where I care too much if strangers will think that I am crazy, so what if they do?Quote:
Originally Posted by LucidHealer
Maybe this is how lucid dreamers are supposed to identify themselves. RCing is our flag. Let it wave!Quote:
Originally Posted by JoannaB
I haven't seen anybody else do it, but I do RCs during school, which merits me a lot of what the hell is wrong with you looks.
I do RCs in public and I get a lot of weird looks too :cheeky: you're not alone in this!Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat
I have seen people looking at watches twice, but i doubt that's a RC, but who knows :cheeky:
Kinda depends on what kind of reality checks you are doing in public, though;Quote:
Originally Posted by anotherdreamer
if I saw someone suddenly jumping into the air, walking into walls or mumbling "is this waking life?" then I would also feel a bit uncomfortable around that person. :cheeky:
I only do the nose-pinch and hand RCs in public. It's still a bit odd to see someone intently staring at their hands while trying to push a finger through your palm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelindo
People need to stfu then. Why would you tell someone to get an other hobby?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo96
Donīt you have a close friend who ticks similarly to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat
When I did the Castaneda-first steps - I did it with a friend - both getting scared away after our first success(es) - but anyway - great to have somebody to talk with.
Of course you do have - on here - but we didnīt have internet back then - but with real life friends - should be even better.
I also do - and I do as if something was sticking somewhere - cleaning a fingernail or do whatever - fiddle a piece of skin from somewhere imaginary.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat
And what I wrote above is not so bad also I think - do the nose with a handkerchief and pretend to blow into it - besides the RC - as if it had been blocked.
I do not enough RCs unfortunately - but I think, I can do them without even another LDer noticing.
Yeah - like the Freemasons having finger-signs to recognize each other!!Quote:
Originally Posted by LucidHealer
I mean - in Germany - the lowest percentage with random people is 26 % - thatīs a tad more than every fourth person!
Lets say half of them are "active" about it and RC - thatīs every 8th.
On a compartment of underground-trains - with 40 people - there should be 5 present - make it one person - you might observe exactly this one doing something.
To meet somebody or observe somebody doing something "suspicious" - you could always catch their eyes and do something similar.
Maybe like that you can find like-minded people.
I believe one reason why a lot of people feel uneasy about lucid dreaming is because, I guess, in many ways it might sound similar to some form of drug-induced experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo96
It might sound a bit trippy and eerie to hear about events like talking to your subconscious, flying, transforming into different objects, teleporting etc.
A lot of people are too restricted to waking life to really understand the fascinating wonders of lucid dreaming.
Not that I know of. However two of my friends said that they have occasional lucid dreams when I told them about it - now they do RCs as well.
I have often encountered weird looks and the question "Do I smell bad?" or "Is something wrong?" whenever I perform my nose plug RC haha :D
I did show LD-ing for others, does that count? If not, then no.
I do RCs in the supermaket and in the supermaket parking lot but I really don't care . I've been a loner all my life and i do things i do that are weird to other people but it doesn't really matter to me because I am free to express myself.
I haven't. However, I've asked several of my friends if they knew what lucid dreaming was, and a surprising amount said yes (though one of them thought it was when your dreams are so realistic that they seem like real life). One of them said that she wished she could lucid dream, but never really tried, and another said that he saw no point to it. Apparently he has no interest in flying around and all that awesome stuff... I have no idea why.
I still haven't found someone who'd want to try out lucid dreaming with me :/
Alas, no - I've yet to find someone else who wants to lucid dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by StephL
However, I shall not give up. As LucidHealer said, let the LD flag fly.
That sounds just like my story! A few of my freinds do lucid dream once a month, and they are not LDers, and my brother really liked it when I told him about LDing 3 months ago. we both started practicing together at that time, and he has had so far 5 LDs, 1 more than me, and I'm doing all the practicing!! Anyway, in my culture (Islam), people tend to use dreams for precognition, so they really have another opinion about LDing (they won't accept it, and always think it's useless) , so no, no one ever does rcs in my non-LDers world. I feel so lonely:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelindo
No one knows the potentials of LDing. They either think it feels like a regular dream,thus very dull and any experience is dull, or they just don't believe that LDing is a way to living great fantasies:D, because its too of a simple and available way and everyone would be doing it. If you read "Discovering the world of Lucid Dreaming" book, you would known that I mean schema that these people have(chapter 5). Its up to us LDers to the message of LDing to the world! How? I don't know:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanderingoak
lets all wear shirts which say "I'm a LD" , LD not Lucid Dreamer so only real LDers would understand that. what do you think? I wouldn't feel lonely about LDing anymore:banana:
It might even be a way to prep myself for LD - to tell people about it - I have no success lately - but I anyway think, that explaining it to others, who want to listen, is a great way to include it into your present life.
Just yesterday I met a mate - who suddenly could remember about having lucids as a child - but not realizing the full potential of it.
He was quite rapt to hear me tell him all sorts of things - wants to start a DJ, maybe come on here.
Like in most these cases - flying seems to be about the only thing, that all have done in childhood-LDs - or at least all that is remembered..
He says he canīt remember any dreams he has at the moment - maybe that is the biggest hindering-factor ..?
Not even getting anything from their normal dreams, which could foster curiosity.
unfortunately, i haven't met one single person in my area that does RC's or is a lucid dreamer.. I wish lucid dreaming was a compulsory subject in school. A LOT of people really have no idea what they're missing.. :(
Great idea! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by LouaiB
In my opinion, one of the very coolest and most unique realizations in a lucid dream is that moment when you become fully aware of yourself, and can start acting and walking around just like in real life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joram
Being lucid in the sense that you simply realize that you are dreaming is certainly really cool, but that point when you start to actually become able to act like in waking life, take walks in the dreamworld, and run around and touch objects - that is in my mind probably one of the very coolest things about lucid dreaming.
Being able to act and move around in the dreamworld while at the same time understanding that it is not the physical world is an incredibly bizarre and unique feeling.
I've never seen anyone else do a reality check in real life, but I haven't really been looking for it. Next time I'm people watching I'll have to keep my eyes open for it.
You guys should see me. I order burrito in a Corner store busy street. And then you have to wait in line and i was doing RCs there.
The looking at hands and counting fingers. But like i said im' a long time loner who doesn't care about doing weird things that other people do. So i dont feel anything embarrasment about it. so i just do it.
I know other people have friends and all that and are social and don't want to look socially awkward so they don't do stuff like that in public
Nope, never noticed anybody RCing. And sometimes, I do pay attention, if I catch somebody. How I would ask him "do you RC?", and how I would get myself out of trouble if they ask me wth do I mean.
I do RC in public - looking at hands and counting fingers. And on occasion I mumble mantras, but only when I'm in super "I don't give a crap" state of mind.
Me too. Nose pinch is easy to explain, lots of people kind of itch their faces. But looking at hands held out in front of your face with spread fingers like I do is pretty hard to explain away :). I do them anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat
I believe a printing like "Lucidity Forever" should work just as well;Quote:
Originally Posted by LouaiB
most ignorant people would probably just believe that it was some new age hippie thing like "seeing the light", and only real lucid dreamers would truly understand the meaning of the word "lucidity".
Nice ideas Laurelindo and LouaiB ! Interesting twist on this already interesting thread.
The only thing, and i know this for sure, is that there are many lucid dreamers who donīt call it lucid dreaming, or lucidity. So, they have no way to figure out what that means in the shirt. Once i began talking with a friend only to find out he had had lucid nightmares since his childhood, and he still has, but he didnīt know anything about the terminology and techniques of LDing. He told me that he found strange that people donīt remember their dreams. I just recommended him to visit DV ! Itīs very very nice to find a LDing mate.
So, in short, this shirt idea is a good one, but you may miss many many naturals if you just use cryptic expressions. We must really be bold and write Ŧ Lucid dreaming ŧ and then of course explain it to people :fame:
My T-shirt ideas:
Lucid Dreamers play at Dreamviews.com
and
If you LD, RC NOW!
Who knows, maybe I would find a real LDer this way. I actually found one, after I asked him why he has the Inception screen saver. But he is reluctant to talk about it.
Yeah, I'm gonna make me those T-shirts. In the mean time, I'm gonna RC more openly. Freeedooooom.
I really like the idea of these T-shirts. They sound pretty awesome! I would definitely wear one if it meant I could find another lucid dreamer to relate to. Something I'd really like to do is to start a local 'lucid dreamer club' in my city so that we can meet and help each other, get motivated, and talk about cool dream goals. That would be so epic...
Once I met a cute young lady with an OM symbol tattooed on the palm of her left hand. (I have a RC tattoo with a original symbol tattooed on the back of my right hand.)
I said to her, "Wait, you have an Om symbol tattooed on your palm? Cool. You know, you can look at your hands and see if you are dreaming."
She said, "That's why I got this tattoo. For reality checks."
"Wow! You're a hardcore lucid dreamer, huh?"
She laughed and said, "and what's that tattoo on your hand for?"
"Reality checks, of course."
Then, we asked each other if we were dreaming.
We had a cool conversation about lucid dreaming, exchanged phone numbers, and I never saw her again. HAHA
There are a lot of naturals I know. I have 2 of my friends that are natural LDers, but it's not interesting to talk with them about LDing, unless they actually practice it intentionally . They are like: "Yeah it's awesom when you know you're dreaming. I really don't care about doing techniques, though" then I tell them :"techniques will increase your LDs, and make them longer and more real!", then they reply:"Meh, don't really care" :mad: It's not like they're even LDers!! That sucks. Only LDers who are really into LDing are interesting companions. I wish I had one. I only have my brother, and he's lame lolQuote:
Originally Posted by VagalTone
If this counts, I used to have a best friend who was a lucid dreamer.. we would catch each other reality checking throughout the day. we both liked the finger-through-hand method :)
I have to disagree with that bolded sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by LouaiB
I haven't seen anyone RC but I have met someone at my school who lucid dreams.
well I guess that this applies only to my 2 friends, not to the general naturals. I'm gonna keep my eyes wide open to detect any LDers in my area.Quote:
Originally Posted by VagalTone
I must say it sounds really strange how apparently around 17% of the world population experiences lucid dreams "at least once per month" - this has been verified by Robert Waggoner in several of his interviews.
What are those figures based on?
17% sounds incredibly high when you think of how rare it seems for people to even know about the possibility to have lucid dreams;
I believe those numbers are very skewed, since they are probably also based on the population in the East, where exploring mental states is valued much higher than in the West.
Well, the 17% is supposed to be of world population, so yes, I would expect it to include Asia. Given that Asia has around 60% of world population I think and North America only has around 5%, I would expect most LDers to be in Asia. Add to that that in some cultures in Asia meditation and lucid dreaming are higher valued than in the United States for example, yes, I think the % may well be less than 17% in the USA without the overall 17% necessarily being wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelindo
Well - check out my earlier post on numbers in Germany..:PQuote:
Originally Posted by Laurelindo
Only my girlfriend, and that's only because she's been interested in lucid dreaming ever since I first told her about it.
Well yes, in Lebanon, more than that percentage of people do at least have Lds a little ,but no one seems to care about what it is, and its potentials. BUT WHO CARES!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelindo
we can't force anyone to like LDing, Just telling them about LDing is the max we can effect. It's their lose. Good thing we knew it's real potentials. Man, you see how lucky we are:D?! Most peaople don't even knowwhat LDing is, let alone knowing its potentials.
No, sadly. I want to make my friends LDers, but everyone looks at me like I am crazy. I would like to start a club around it, but I don't know how many people I would even get. I guess this skill is more rare than I thought.
Yes, people don't know what their missing, to bad FOR THEM. This is why people should be open-minded, to not miss things like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by SinisterDezz
Nah - I feel, around me it is much more common, than I thought.
But with getting older - seems most people stop remembering their dreams at all - also thinking about them in the daytime.
Iīm almost forty - and I know, I had much, much more recall with 17 - playing telling each other our dreams with my fist boyfriend.
But lucids I had as a child under 9 years, I think.
And I have heard from 5 people by now, that as a child - they sometimes knew, they were dreaming - and classically - all of them said, what they mainly did was flying.
Today - I bubbled over and my husband started looking sort of angry, when I was on about superwoman-flight - and I asked him what was wrong - surprised, because usually he is fascinated by LD.
Said he had a bad mood, and it wouldnīt help that I made him green with envy..:D
And a friend of mine might try coming on here - but at least take an extended look at a German forum.
There is hope - lets spread the word!
Yes, that's great:D. You know, if more people are in to LDing, more research would be done and we would have a lot more information, techniques and all the useful things about LDing that you can imagine. Lets spread the word indeed, at least for our own sake.Quote:
Originally Posted by StephL
When I tell someone about lucid dreaming this is the most typical scenario:
"Do you know that you can actually become aware that you are dreaming? :happyme:"
"Um, well I know I have dreams some nights. :P"
"No I mean, recognize a dream as a dream while you are still having it. :D"
"Ah okay. Well no. :huh2:"
"It's actually a really cool experience, if you become aware enough then your dreams can feel just as real as waking life! It's amazing! :banana:"
"Ah okay, well let's hope I won't confuse dreams with waking life then.
And there I say period, and change the subject. :?"
They just don't get it. :shakehead2:
About the t-shirt thing: I actually have a sweater with the text: member of dreamers club on it. I know it isn't necessarily about LDing, but I do think that if a fellow LDer sees it, it would sure make them do a RC ;p
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I'd say most RCs are difficult to see unless one is kind of obvious about it. All them can be disguised. Someone would need to be pretty observant to see any one of them I'd think. I do nose-plug most often and most times people just think I'm popping my ears or what ever. I will try to be more obvious though that way if anyone happens to be looking, they get curious at least.
Many times they feel its all about controlling the dream. "Oh you mean controlling your dreams!" . Its hard to explain the awareness part. I remember when my friend like a brother told me about ld. I thought he may be nuts a little. Not anymore. One way I explain it to family...its like a holodeck..you know your in the holodeck but its vividly real.
I don't really understand the fact that so many people have problems imagining lucidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleT
I mean, it only means that you are in a dream and realize that you are in fact dreaming, and those components are intuitive for pretty much everyone.
Everyone knows what a dream is, and everyone has probably experienced feeling lost somewhere and suddenly recognizing the place and thinking "aha, I am here!".
Combine these two things and you have a lucid dream.
That's a brilliant way to explain LDing!!!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Laurelindo
I take the virtual reality metaphor - pretty much catches it.
News of the encouraging sort: I was visiting my husbandīs parents with him - his mother did have at least semi-lucids from time to time and remembers having them as a child.
And - the big one: First person I found, who does LDing and almost every night - his father!
He is 70 and said - direct translation: When I go to sleep, the real life starts!!!
He knows he can control everything - but doesnīt realize it to the fullest - like all the control-stuff people do on here - most special effects were new ideas to him - but he does a lot of stuff since ages on his own!
He also said, he sometimes can go on dreaming from where he left the last night if he wants to.
What is interesting - he never was afraid to close his dream-eyes - that is his way to change scenery or start flying and other things.
I promised to bombard him with links and further info and inspiration.
His parents are - like he is - very unique people - what comes to my mind - also told that to a friend of mine - is the following:
The father had found an interesting looking triangular stone - and looked up, how stone-age axes were made and made a replica - it is really well done and usable - with leather strips and wood pieces for stabilisation - simply adorable, such things, I find.
Amazing how LDers can appear from nowhere! My brother discovered SIX LDers in his school these past 2 weeks!! Really nice how your Father-in-law is a LD, and a good one too^^! Keep helpin' him, I'm sure he'll be Joyous!
I've never seen someone RC in real life. One of my RCs is actually not noticeable. It's the plug-your-nose RC, but without actually pinching your nose. It's hard to describe, but try to inhale in a way that doesn't let you inhale. If you CAN inhale, you are dreaming.
I gave a horrible description of it, but either way, it's what I use if I don't want people seeing me RC.
I've never seen someone doing a reality check, but I want. It's very sad that people think I'm crazy when I tell them 'bout LDing.
I told some women at one of my old jobs about lucid dreaming and that I recorded my own dreams for that purpose, but I think the only thing they really grasped was that I recorded my dreams and then they were like "well it's easy to forget your dreams, and record them".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sman98
And guess what?
They changed the subject after that.
I get these vibes from most people, almost like they refuse to accept lucid dreaming and are ready to rationalize everything in a way so that the dreams remain "unconscious" and "beyond our control".
Maybe we all are crazy? Naah just kidin'. Have a happy new year!!!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Laurelindo
I can tell you the people who DON'T LD are crazy...Quote:
Originally Posted by LouaiB
This is awesome, lucid dreaming at 70...got many years to look forward to!Quote:
Originally Posted by StephL
And I would perhaps think twice about burying him in links. If he's successful, leave him be, you don't want him to get infected with mental viruses like how what he's doing "is so hard, how you lose the dream if you close your eyes," etc.
Maybe just give him some examples of dream control things to do.
100% right, or at least when they hear of LDing and not careQuote:
Originally Posted by FryingMan
I had a dinner with my mother, her boyfriend and his ten-year-old son a while ago, and we started talking about sleep, and I thought it was a pretty good opportunity for me to mention my awakening that morning, which was a short False Awakening where I saw an alarm clock on my bed table that said 3 PM, even though I woke up immediately afterwards (I have no alarm clock on my bed table, it was in another place in the room) and it was right before noon.
And I told them that I sometimes have "funny dreams like this, where I dream about waking up".
The only one who showed any signs of interest was the boy, he opened his eyes wide and looked at me as if he wanted to hear more about it;
and the others' reactions were more like "ah, you say so - by the way, I have something completely different to talk about, so let's change the subject with haste!".
It's funny how children seem so much more fascinated about dreams, while adults seem to almost wanna avoid the subject.
I think part of the reason for this is our warped priorities in our materialist goal oriented society: can you profit from it? What do you gain from it: money, friends, real solid material benefits? Nothing, well, then it's a waste of time. Admitting that one is a day dreamer is also almost taboo in our society. With kids it's different: they have not yet been fully indoctrinated to social norms, and adults are more indulgent of kids wasting time. Also most people cannot remember their dreams, and if they do rber, they don't bother to understand them, and dismiss them as a bunch of nonsense. It's a shame. I hope I can teach my kids to continue to appreciate dreams even when they grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelindo
Yes, in our culture it seems like everything that's worth pursuing must consist of physical real-life material.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoannaB
What these people obviously don't understand is that lucid dreams are definitely a profit in lots of ways, and probably at least as valuable as anything you can obtain in waking life.
Exactly! I wish that I can say it is cmpletly their loss, but we can use more LDers so more research on the subject would be done, and we all know how important research is
You probably don't know how right you are there - me neither, before I read the material belonging to the upcoming docu on the tv-canal Arté tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by FryingMan
It says there that among the LDers (in Germany I suppose..) - mental health problems are significantly less common than in the overall population - isn't that just fantastic?
Sometimes suspicions to the opposite are mentioned - that should be cold coffee soon, if more such data get collected. Very cold.
Don't worry - he is not the sort of person to be restricted by what others say.Quote:
Originally Posted by FryingMan
No - but when I told him, he could try opening a door and really expecting something as extreme as to stand on a Jupiter moon and looking down at these beautiful and colourful storm-bands and red dots - he liked that a hell of a lot - and wouldn't have come up with it on his own.
That's what I plan - give him inspirations as to how to use his anyway good dream-control - take it to another level yet.
Also maybe that there is something like WILD - he does DEILD chaining already.
And while he has many LDs - he would like to be able to induce them in a more reliable way, than waiting for them.
Children should be the primarily interested theoretically - in especially because most remember many if not most of their dreams vividly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelindo
It follows that dreaming is important for them - being a real part of their lives - and yeah - they are encouraged to play, try out things usually - are fascinated by anything wondrous, magic and fun-promising - don't feel they have no time because of more important stuff...
Are more open to believe things, which adults prematurely judge as bogus.
Plus - I believe most do have at least semi-lucids anyway.
I heard that so often by now - maybe all do even and regularly - without confirmation and guidance, though - it gets lost.
Again - I have something positive to report - I dared opening a thread on LD on my darts-forum.
To prevent any doubts - I cited and linked up to the state of the art concerning research and science being done - the fMRI study, which is to be found under Lucidity News on here - does the trick nicely - nobody can seriously keep up doubting the phenomenon after reading this.
I added stuff about usage in sports-psychology with links and quotes.
We are a very competitive and passionate bunch - trying all sorts of twists and tweaks to gain that little bit more of an edge.
And - there are already two, who wrote, that they used to LD.
Both after childhood - having learned it some time in their later youth.
One of them is a mod, who shares a lot of off-topic interests with me - and I had him as prime suspect for it - the other a wonderful person also.
That was yesterday - will see, who else comes out from behind the oven.
There are also posts from people interested without own experience - somebody having looked into visualization practices in sports-psychology before..
Typical, though - people don't remember their dreams..
The thread is meant as a cornerstone or starting-point - I feel, I will soon be able to start lucid darting - and then I hope for measurable effects.
I have linked up in here as well - maybe there will come a run on DV from ambitious darters, if I manage to lift my average hehehe.
No, never! I wish I had
Niiiiiiice!!!:D This is the best thing a LDer can do, spread the word!! Become an expert darter, for LDing!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by StephL
Looks great - well done!!Quote:
Originally Posted by DutchDreamer97
:bravo:
WakingNomad has been on the case with two threads as well:
http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...ad-verbal.html
http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...al-visual.html
Yepp - news from my darting-companions - one of the ones already having had an LD long time ago - he had one directly after reading my thread!!
Broke away from him while hand-inspecting - but that really trumps my wildest imagination concerning effects!
And - two other lovely persons with experiences and interest.
One of them having stumbled over LD because of unhealthy mad working schedule and having come to drifting about the borders like that - and one having had several classical waking-up SP nightmares - with shuffling noises and malignancy jumping on her chest - all inclusive.
Told her, this might be nasty on the one hand - but also maybe make it easier for her to learn WILD.
Been linking up to gabīs and Sageous tutorials - who knows how this all plays out!
Chuffed to bits - as they would say it!
Well, that was pretty hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by DutchDreamer97
I pretty much have reduced RCing a lot, or just simply using it for its basic purpose. Instead, I am using RRC. Some LDers may only use RRC or ADA, so its even harder to spot a LDer because they may not use RCs
I may be a little bit biased now, but I believe most lucid dreamers express a more curious attitude to everything they experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by LouaiB
People who habitually hurry between destinations and hardly notice anything around them probably aren't very "lucid" in their everyday lives.
Not necessarily. In dreams, we do notice the weird dreamlike things(if you don't, then you won't remember dreaming about them), but what we lack is memory to remember that it is unusual. So, self-awareness activated the memory in dreams. Vwala.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelindo
You might think that I am wrong, and might look at ADA for instance. It is all about environmental awareness, but for what? ADA is to make your environmental awareness in dreams higher, not for noticing the weirdness(as I said before, the issue is memory), but for getting a better sense of the dream "feeling", so it would be like an always occurring DS. Good, but I prefer not to do it, because it hinders self-awareness. You might wonder what would you do without sensing that feeling. First, you can benefit from any other DS. Second, I personally dedicate a couple of LD for the soul purpose of memorizing that "feeling". This is a far better tactic than ADA. As for RCing, self-awareness is easier to leak to the dream since it becomes second nature unlike RCs. And RCs may hinder self-awareness, so they should be done for their main purpose only, to determine the current state, no more.
Yes, I saw one of my friends clutching his nose and then pushing his fingers through a wall once, didn't have to ask him why lol. I never RC in public.
He's the only one I know who has heard of LDing.
Heey - first yes in 4 pages!!
Congratulation!
wow! Finally
