Odd Experience Last Night, Has This Happened to You?

**SinisterDezz** · 01-21-2014 01:31 AM

I had a dream this morning, probably around 4-5 AM. I was trying to accomplish one of my dream goals, however, I wasn't lucid, at all.

Least to say, I completed one before the dream ended, and it was around 6:30. I had the intention of doing a DEILD, though, when I would enter the dream, I had no intention of becoming lucid...

Has anyone had any similar experiences? Where they are conscious enough to do a DEILD, but not actually reach a LD... So a uh.... DEID?

**gab** · 01-21-2014 01:33 AM

I think you retained some waking life memory, but didn't have enough awareness to actually realize you are dreaming. You also had dream control.

**SinisterDezz** · 01-21-2014 02:02 AM

I have never experienced dream control outside of lucid dreams, so I find that very odd that this occurred in a NLD.

**gab** · 01-21-2014 02:10 AM

I have, only few times, and only after I started lucid dreaming. Wasn't a full blown control. But I had some consious thoughts and was able to analyze what I did and how it may affect others in a dream, and that what I was doing was quite unusual.

But as I said, that's just my opinion.

**SinisterDezz** · 01-21-2014 02:26 AM

Well, your opinion is valued, thank you!

**Maxis** · 01-21-2014 02:51 AM

Over at LD4all I think this term is coined "false lucid dream" (FLD), where you have a high level of dream control but you don't realize it's because you're dreaming. You can fly, walk on water, summon things, whatnot, but you don't have the *click* that you're doing all this because you're dreaming.

**FryingMan** · 01-21-2014 03:08 AM

A number of times I've exercised "dream control flying" in NLDs using techniques I've read about on LD forums and visualized performing in waking life, but I wasn't lucid. Most common one is speed control and "zoom traveling" (look somewhere, imagine it filling your vision, and suddenly your 'body' being there). Also just a few nights ago in a NLD I "taught" someone else how to fly using the "infinite energy propulsion point source" in your head that can propel you in any direction at any speed, that I also read about in LD forums.

I've also experienced non-lucid "dream re-entry" (your "DEID") once where I was lucid briefly while waking from a dream, I kept the dream lightly in my mind while dozing back asleep, and re-entered the same environment but non-lucidly.

**gab** · 01-21-2014 03:08 AM

I could be wrong, but term "false lucid" referrs to a non-lucid dream, in which we think we are lucid. but we actually didn't become lucid. It is about if we think we are lucid, not as much about control, since we can have control in non-lucids as well.

**FryingMan** · 01-21-2014 03:18 AM

It's a confusing term -- I think Sageous's "false lucid" refers to a dream that the dreamer remembers as being lucid after waking but was not actually lucid while it was happening...where we wish so hard for a lucid dream that our SC supplies the experience simulating an LD but the whole thing is not actually lucid somehow. If we actually realize in the dream that we're dreaming I think that must be considered "lucid."