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Hi again,
IF we got our LD. Do this LD is hard to recall ? as hard as we recall ordinary dream ? I meant, some ppl say that they can see clearly, remember clearly, even can feel the air n smells. So when we wake up from LD, do this LD still be remembered that clear?
thx,
sorry for my english
I'm pretty sure that you would remember LD's as well as you would remember normal dreams. This is why we practice our recall so we can remember our lucid experiences.
ooh thx. So if i still have a weak dream recall skill, its hard to get a good LD too?
Correct. The first thing to do to is to build a strong dream recall base. Write down your dreams as often as possible (at least 3 times a week) and you will have a much greater chance of becoming lucid, and remembering your lucid dream.
I write my journal everyday. Coz i wake up several times during my sleep, so sometimes i have more than 1 story. But dream in the longest sleep will be so hard to recall, sometimes i dont remember it at all. Dream in 2-3 hours sleep will be easier to recall n i can remember almost the whole story. is it normal ? is possible for us to remember all dream without wake up in the middle of the night? thx
P.S. : sorry for my english if u dont understand
There is an excellent chance, Nove13, that you will remember most of your lucid dreams. This is because, unlike non-lucid dreams, lucid dreaming is very much an activity of your waking-life consciousness, so LD's will likely be stored in your memory just like any other important waking-life event.
Sure, you might lose a couple LD's now and then, especially as you gain more experience and LD's become a little less of a memorable event, but generally you should find them much easier to remember than NLD's.
thx for ur reply. Accordding to ur reply, LD is easier to remember than a normal dream , right? I tried WILD last night, the result was i couldnt sleep for almost 4 hours, my heart was beating so hard n finally i fall asleep without LD. Lol
^^ Right!
... also, if your WILD attempt goes on for more than two hours, it might be a good idea to give up and try again some other time...
Actually, im learning DILD now. But i tried WILD just becoz i wake up from sleep several times in the middle of the night. Lol. Thx for your input. Wish me luck
Spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by Sageous
I forget a lot of them now that I dont get as excited. Its a problem.
Nove13...I don't have great dream recall, but an LD is like being awake so of course you recall it almost like real experiences, unless it is a low level lucid dream. I just had a 20 minute lucid and recalled it all since I "lived" it all.
It can be a problem. But then again, if nothing happens in your LD's that is worth remembering, why bother remembering it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xanous
Most waking-life experiences do not get recorded as accessible memories, mostly because those experiences hold no significance to you. The same will happen with LD's as well, if while lucid you do nothing particularly significant.
So, now that you are a veteran who doesn't get excited about LD's, the problem with remembering them might be resolved by making the dreams memorable; by doing things in them that are important or meaningful to you. Excitement is only one reason we remember events; there are other things that make a moment important. In the end, it isn't that you are lucid that matters, but what you are doing, experiencing, and feeling while lucid.
I agree in general with all of this. Lucids are easier to remember, but veterans can forget them as easily as we may forget which commercials were run during a show we just watched. Often in LDs I enjoy just casually interacting with DCs and that will be hard to remember details from, just as remembering everything that happened at a waking life party may be. At this point, things like flying are not enough to really make a memory, if it is just transportation. I did just dream about flying while surrounded in ocean settings, such as kelp and floating fish/plankton, and that stored just like a waking memory, because it was novel.
In conclusion (IMO): LD is easier to remember than non-lucid. Waking life is easier to remember than LD. The more interesting and new LD experiences are the easier to remember. AND, all types of memory improve with work, so working on recall is still top priority when first learning.
Yes I agree with you both, sageous and sivason. Also, I think a lot of it has to do with the level of lucidity and time of night, but some of it is just going through the lucid dream as I would waking life. I vaguely recall not too long ago a lucid dream where I was a child again on a car ride with my parents. I just calmly sat there in the back seat watching the scenery pass by and enjoying the fact that I was in a lucid dream. I did nothing else until I woke up and of course, I recalled very little of the experience. Cool, but not cool.
No, very cool, just very cool. There is more to these dreams than super power adventures. The dream is yours to do as you wish. I often spend dreams just observing. It can be nice, especially when DCs are loved ones or the setting is neat (being young, passing scenery, sounds great) Just my opinion, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xanous
Thx for your replies. This is a good input for me, though i never have one LD before. Im trying DILD almost 3 weeks now. I do RC with awareness about 10-15 times a day. I read several blogs n forums about LD, n find that WILD will easier to make us go to lucid dream ( i meant, u can decide when to go there) even though i think WILD is harder then DILD (IMO). Im trying both now, when i wake up in the middle of the night or take a nap on the afternoon i try WILD, still couldnt get lucid but i think im making a progress. I reached SP on my last nap, but i was fall asleep also.
thx for this forum , i can get many informations here
My experience is that the last dream on your mind when you wake up is very easily, vividly recalled. Many early LDs for beginners are their last dream of the night. Add to that what Sageous said that you're experiencing the LD with already awake awareness, and late morning LDs that you wake up from are especially memorable.
As you get more experienced, and stay asleep and dreaming after LDs, or have long LDs where you lose lucidity after a while, or have multiple LDs per night and continue on dreaming non-lucidly afterwards for potentially several sleep cycles, it can be easier to forget them. Really working on dream recall can help to save these LDs.
Working on building great dream recall is not just for "not forgetting dreams (especially LDs)," but I find building high levels of recall and and daytime awareness actually changes the experience of almost all dreams: they're much more vivid, clear, and I feel "like I'm there" in the majority of dreams (and that sense of "you being there" is a necessary condition for lucidity IMO).
Its a good explanation FryingMan, Thx a lot. I wanna write more in this forum, but have no idea to discuss since i still dont get my first LD. So thx for all inputs :D
Just sign up for a class on DVA: the teachers there will ask you questions and guide you through the process.
i cant speak english well ? its okay? how to sign up there?
Your English is quite good enough to get your ideas across!
Probably the Intro class would be best since you're just getting started. Just create a post (click "Post New Thread") in this forum area (link below) with your name, like "Nove13's workbook" and introduce yourself, perhaps what you're doing now and what your goals are, and the teachers will take it from there!
DVA Intro Class
okay. Thx alot, will sign up there
Yeah like others have said, LDs are much easier to remember than normal vivid Dreams as they're stored in a similar way to your waking memory.
However I've found the longer they last, the harder they can be to remember.
If I'm lucky enough to get an hour long Lucid for instance, the first ten minutes or so can become hazy unless something really interesting happens.
If there is something I really want to remember and I've been Lucid for a while after it's happened, I'll often wake myself up just to make sure I don't forget it.