How do you go into someone else's dream. i Want to mess with my brother a bit :-P
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How do you go into someone else's dream. i Want to mess with my brother a bit :-P
Not to discourage you, but, Good luck! From what I have read, this type of thing happend VERY rarely.
I've been trying to do that off and on for a couple of years now, nothing even close yet.
Okay, I will tell you, but don't go crying to me if he starts calling you 'Casper'!Quote:
Originally posted by dreamcatcher05
How do you go into someone else's dream. i Want to mess with my brother a bit *:-P
1) Leave a book open out on the counter!
2) Get into the final WILD phase
3) Instead of following the dream imagery, try getting up & walking into your bro's bedroom (be warned, it could be a FA)
4) Read the book you left out on the counter for a quick reality check.
5) If your bro is awake, this cannot be attempted, & he is more than likely to ignore you.
6) If your bro is asleep, try tackling him
7) You should now be in his dream.
8) Be sure to check that book you read the other night says the same thing.
Or...you 2 could just be at a higher LD level.
Is this for real!!!, just one thing I don´t get, is through OBE or through dreaming?. I find it if I´m dreaming and have a FA the only thing In my house that looks real is my room, every other aspect of the house is just not my home, I mean, once I found a balcony that lead some stairs into the sky, and when I turned around it wasn´t there(you know what I mean)Quote:
Originally posted by nesgirl119
Okay, I will tell you, but don't go crying to me if he starts calling you 'Casper'!
1) Leave a book open out on the counter!
2) Get into the final WILD phase
3) Instead of following the dream imagery, try getting up & walking into your bro's bedroom (be warned, it could be a FA)
4) Read the book you left out on the counter for a quick reality check.
5) If your bro is awake, this cannot be attempted, & he is more than likely to ignore you.
6) If your bro is asleep, try tackling him
7) You should now be in his dream.
8) Be sure to check that book you read the other night says the same thing.
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Thx nes!!
But i think i will trying Commanding and looking and stuff like that because when i usually have Ld I have really really high lucidty. I would try what you said but ive had bad experiences with wild but thank you anyway :lol:
RCs are very important here! There are very few dream characteristics when you are in the form that goes into other people's dreams. There are a few dream signs (your unconscious duplicate, being in a white robe, people ignore you, etc) that can be overseen in one of these, but be very careful of the others....RC on everything (that is why I recommend the book!), look closely at everything, & make sure it is just like real time..!Quote:
Originally posted by Ernesto
Is this for real!!!, just one thing I don´t get, is through OBE or through dreaming?. I find it if I´m dreaming and have a FA the only thing In my house that looks real is my room, *every other aspect of the house is just not my home, I mean, once I found a balcony that lead some stairs into the sky, and when I turned around it wasn´t there(you know what I mean)
Dont mean to sound closed minded, but is this for real? Have you really tested this out with other people to see if you can both share a dream? If you have that it totally awesome. I can imagine twenty years from now when this is how people interact in "online" games. That would be so much more real than our current technology.
Thanks,
Nick
Heck, yeah! If we could all DS, than we could play Nintendo against everyone!Quote:
Originally posted by Sengo
Dont mean to sound closed minded, but is this for real? Have you really tested this out with other people to see if you can both share a dream? If you have that it totally awesome. I can imagine twenty years from now when this is how people interact in \"online\" games. That would be so much more real than our current technology. *
Thanks,
Nick
Yes, this is for real...definitely! It is just a bit harder than regular LDing, but entering dreams is much easier than DSing!
It would definately work. You have to know the person for a long time...which well obviouslly you do. It should work..
Well, thanks nesgirl. I'll try it, although I never RC but I do have lots of dream signs. It has been normal for me since a kid to get the thought of "I think I´m dreaming" and then I just go do whatever I do in dreams. I´ll try it anyway and see I´ll put up this book I´m reading :wink:
I'm genuinely curious about this... but didn't you just say that these dreams don't have many "dream" characteristics? Which would kind of prevent us from doing magic and other video game type stuff?Quote:
Originally posted by nesgirl119
Heck, yeah! If we could all DS, than we could play Nintendo against everyone!
Are you talking about DSing through LDing, or Entering Someone else's dream?Quote:
Originally posted by Ex Nine
I'm genuinely curious about this... but didn't you just say that these dreams don't have many \"dream\" characteristics? Which would kind of prevent us from doing magic and other video game type stuff?
I'm sorry I don't understand the subtleties... can you explain the difference?Quote:
Originally posted by nesgirl119
Are you talking about DSing through LDing, or Entering Someone else's dream?
DSing is when 2 people share a LD.Quote:
Originally posted by Ex Nine
I'm sorry I don't understand the subtleties... can you explain the difference?
Entering someone's dream is when you somehow get into their LD, probably through ******.
If you are talking about 2 people being together in a ******, then it is completely different, as their abilities are limited.
You can play VGs through DSing, but I am not sure about Entering another's dream, as all I do when I do that is hang out. You cannot play one in a ******.
Oh, okay, I think understand now.
What do you mean by all those asterisks? Is a word being filtered out? :sweat1:
I'd like to see a blind, or better doubleblind, test of this.
DS with someone. Each go into a separate room and write all the details of the experience down. Set down the pad. Then an independant observer go into each room and collect the notepads. That observer would then read the pads and compare the details. It should then be independantly reviewed in raw for by fourth-parties. The important thing here is exact details, not vaugery. And finally, the "assignment" should be given to each person seperately and keep them removed so there can be no subconscious or body-signal.
If I see that - then I'm all over buying into it.
You'd better believe it! I don't want to get into trouble for saying the real word, so I blot it out!Quote:
Originally posted by Ex Nine
Oh, okay, I think understand now.
What do you mean by all those asterisks? Is a word being filtered out? :sweat1:
Agreed. I'm still interested enough to experiment with it here and there, but I can't truely Believe in it, until I get results from that sort of test.Quote:
I'd like to see a blind, or better doubleblind, test of this.
DS with someone. Each go into a separate room and write all the details of the experience down. Set down the pad. Then an independant observer go into each room and collect the notepads. That observer would then read the pads and compare the details. It should then be independantly reviewed in raw for by fourth-parties. The important thing here is exact details, not vaugery. And finally, the \"assignment\" should be given to each person seperately and keep them removed so there can be no subconscious or body-signal.
If I see that - then I'm all over buying into it. [/b]
It's a single constant in multiple expressions. Not a problem.Quote:
Originally posted by nesgirl119
DSing is when 2 people share a LD.
Entering someone's dream is when you somehow get into their LD, probably through ******.
If you are talking about 2 people being together in a ******, then it is completely different, as their abilities are limited.
You can play VGs through DSing, but I am not sure about Entering another's dream, as all I do when I do that is hang out. You cannot play one in a ******.
****** = probably through which somone gets into someone else's LD thereby entering someone else's dream[1] = something that when two people are in it together will limit their abilities = something that makes the circumstances of entering someone's dream completely different
****** ≠ dream sharing or a video game system
[1] entering someone's dream = getting into their lucid dream
Okay, I can do this! In the set of dreams there are the sets of lucid dreams and non-lucid dreams and no empty sets... carry the two... if we follow the axiom of choice, then there is a set that has exactly one thing in common with... oh hell!
You know, I've read and said some pretty bad words in this forum already, and I'm amazed at the maturity of everyone. I promise I will not be offended if you tell me in a pm or something.
I personally am using a different method of going into other peoples dreams, I have had one that was verified and the other attempts my friends dodn't exactly remember it. Well what I do is just go to sleep and have a LD, then you have like this cloud of mist come in arround you(It should be comforting in a way nice and snug and warm like) and you swim breast stroke through it twards your friend leaving your mind behind in the mist and when you get close to your friend start yelling out to them and ask them to let you in. Even when it supposedly didn't happen(whether my friends just didn't remember or whatever) It feels a lot different than if it were in my mind, it is really hard to explane.
Okay, I will tell you more through a PM. Here is what I can show you though:Quote:
Originally posted by Ex Nine
It's a single constant in multiple expressions. Not a problem.
****** = probably through which somone gets into someone else's LD thereby entering someone else's dream[1] = something that when two people are in it together will limit their abilities = something that makes the circumstances of entering someone's dream completely different
****** ≠ dream sharing or a video game system
[1] entering someone's dream = getting into their lucid dream
Okay, I can do this! In the set of dreams there are the sets of lucid dreams and non-lucid dreams and no empty sets... carry the two... if we follow the axiom of choice, then there is a set that has exactly one thing in common with... oh hell!
You know, I've read and said some pretty bad words in this forum already, and I'm amazed at the maturity of everyone. I promise I will not be offended if you tell me in a pm or something.
DSing LDs = Playing VGs
Entering Someone's dream ≠ Controlling them (? on the VGs)
The host of a person entering = Control them & play VGs
Both people ********* ≠ being able to play VGs
Hey,
I read the huge article on this forum when a whole bunch of people were trying to set up an experiment to determine if this was definatly possible, and if it was, how probable it was. Too bad that thread stopped getting updated, it would be awesome to see some results to prove it. I love the idea, but must admit I'm a little skeptical seen as there haven't been any conclusive experiments. Someone needs to put this to the test!
P.S. Someone please share what the *******'s mean, I think I'm kind of lost without their meaning.
Thanks,
Nick
Ok....the word has been blotted out, b/c I have gotten into too much trouble w/Icedawg for discussing it, so I would rather it remain this way!! :DQuote:
Originally posted by Sengo
Someone please share what the *******'s mean, I think I'm kind of lost without their meaning.
Thanks,
Nick
is it a bad word nes lol
Not really...it's just a word that could get me banned, b/c Icedawg doesn't like me saying it! :shock: That is b/c this word confuses newbies!Quote:
Originally posted by dreamcatcher05
is it a bad word nes lol
In my opinion it's very much like the word "astral projection," which is what I thought it was originally. And I agree with Icedawg. Please see my post in the astral projection thread for my of my thoughts on this.
http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20410
I still think we can continue this discussion, though, without introducing new words that subsume the role of "lucid dreaming," such as astral projection or the one that has been blanked out. In fact, I sincerely hope we do.
Well, I doubt it, but at least I can go haunt my enemies if they are not Lucid! Especially spammers (ha! take that spam! *punches the spammer).Quote:
Originally posted by Ex Nine
In my opinion it's very much like the word \"astral projection,\" which is what I thought it was originally. And I agree with Icedawg. Please see my post in the astral projection thread for my of my thoughts on this.
http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20410
I still think we can continue this discussion, though, without introducing new words that subsume the role of \"lucid dreaming,\" such as astral projection or the one that has been blanked out. In fact, I sincerely hope we do.
Wait a second, isn't that LDing though?
Why not? Just replace the word you were going to use with LD and then "but with..." and then add such and such qualities. There's absolutely nothing wrong with qualifying the experience. It may be cumbersome, but it actually lays everything all the table nicely so we can see it. We can pick it apart, see if we notice certain qualities in some dreams and not in others. Anything.
Through that method, I think we could really use your leadership, here, nesgirl.
Okay okay! The definition of ****** is LD, but it has a twist of reality & FA!Quote:
Originally posted by Ex Nine
Why not? Just replace the word you were going to use with LD and then \"but with...\" and then add such and such qualities. There's absolutely nothing wrong with qualifying the experience. It may be cumbersome, but it actually lays everything all the table nicely so we can see it. We can pick it apart, see if we notice certain qualities in some dreams and not in others. Anything.
Through that method, I think we could really use your leadership, here, nesgirl.
Glad I got that off my chest. And that is how you enter someone else's LD!
Wait... what's "FA" now? :)
False Awakening. In other words, it is when you think you have gotten out of bed, when you are really still in bed dreaming.Quote:
Originally posted by Ex Nine
Wait... what's \"FA\" now? :)
Aha! Yes! That's progress!
You see? People can relate to that! lol
How about reality? LOL! :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by Ex Nine
Aha! Yes! That's progress!
You see? People can relate to that! lol
okay i think we are getting off the subject
I believe that dreams are being shared subconsciously while awake, for example while talking to the other person. Then in the night it will be a shared dream.
Obviously the human brain isn't capable of sending information through walls. So dream sharing wouldn't work from being started while sleeping. It also works much worse when LDing because subconscious information is altered.
nesgirl, your ideas are optimistic and all but it isn't possible to play games in shared dreams, especially lucid ones.
Hey Back Off Nes Okay!
Shes been here longer than me and u put to gether now back off she knows what she talking about she is a sci-fier =P
And what do you know u joined 3 days ago
Hello,
I don't have any experience here, but if we are transmitting dreams to eachother with our minds why the hell would a wall stop them? It seems to me that low Hz signals travel thru solid objects better than high Hz. For example, even though it's a different type of energy, microwaves operationg at 5000Hz barely penetrate your microwave, but your 2000 Hz cordless phone can leave your house. I'm not saying your wrong, you may have a very legitamate reason for saying dreams, if thay can even be transmitted, can't be transmitted thru walls. It's just contrary to my logic I suppose. Could you please explain scientifically why you believe this Korittke?
Thanks,
Nick
>> microwaves operationg at 5000Hz barely penetrate your microwave, but your 2000 Hz cordless phone can leave your house.
I think you're on the right track. Just a couple technical comments.
5000Hz is only 5khz. I suspect you meant more like 5,000,000,000hz (5Ghz)
2000Hz is only 2khz. I suspect you meant something like 2,000,000,000hz
The phone has an antenna providing gain and creating a low SWR.
The microwave is insulated and designed to produce very high SWR from the magnatron.
I put together 5.6Ghz data and video systems that will throw a signal for 25mi or more through reinforced concrete walls with less power than your microwave is putting out. Different kinda systems.
But yes, VLF carries very little bandwidth very slowly through just about anything.
Say, dreamcatcher05, do you know what a "logical fallacy" is?Quote:
Originally posted by dreamcatcher05
Shes been here longer than me and u put to gether now back off she knows what she talking about she is a sci-fier =P
And what do you know u joined 3 days ago
This one is known as "appeal to authority."
Thankyou for the corrections Kimpossible, While I was writing it I was thinking of my phone and was thought that may not be right. Perhaps I should use two cordless phones for an example though. Mine is 2.4 Ghz, and it seems that everyone thought they were better when they first started coming out years ago I suppose. However, if you ever compare a newer 2.4 Ghz phone to an older .9Ghz phone, if I'm not mistaken the .9Ghz phone actualy penetrates walls with more clarity or distance, or both. This again may be inaccurate, but It's what I believe to be true.
Thanks,
Nick
Edited Note: I just went back and re-read what you said. 5000hz isn't VLF. 5hz would be. 5khz is in HF...
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Ok - I could run with that! With another caveat or two (don't you just hate picky people?):
The 2.4Ghz phone will penetrate non-reinforced walls better. The 900Mhz (0.9Ghz) phone will penetrate reinforced walls better. That's why the 2.4Ghz phone has more range in the average house (unless it's lap-and-plaster construction). ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL!
Now, if I throw a 3watt amplifier on a 24dBi gain antenna on the 2.4Ghz phone, then all bets are off. It's going to penetrate almost anything better than the 900Mhz phone at unity.
But that's really an aside to your point. All things being equal, VLF penetrates structures better. As another aside: The government uses VLF to communicate VERY short messages to submarines at sea. VLF is the only thing that will penetrate water worth a damn. But there are very few messages that can be sent because the bandwidth is so low. Generally, it's a "surface as soon as you can so you can receive a microwave burst transmission containing your orders".
So, if we were to wear an antenna.....perhaps aluminum foil hats.......we could then amplify our signal and share a lucid dream with an alien right? Given the fact that the signal travels around the speed of light, and our nearest neighbor star is some four light years away, if your willing to wait it can work.Quote:
Now, if I throw a 3watt amplifier on a 24dBi gain antenna on the 2.4Ghz phone, then all bets are off. It's going to penetrate almost anything better than the 900Mhz phone at unity. [/b]
Forgive me if my idea sounds ridiculous, I'm kind of tired.
Not at all! It's very logical. But let's take it a step further:
I've been building extremely sensitive (some 30x that of medical-grade) EEGs. Why not capture it to the computer and then all the aliens need is an Internet connection?
Well that all sounds good, but I believe I may have caused us to stray off topic. When some people on this forum were going to try sharing lucid dreams didn't they experiment with all going to a common place in their lucid dreams to see if they could meet up there? Has anyone seen if this actually works?
-Nick
That's what I'd like to see. Some common details not known ahead of time, documented prior to contact between the two people IRL and then compared.
I think we won't see many takers because they'd have a hard time continuing to convince themselves if it fails.
Thanx, dreamcatcher!Quote:
Originally posted by dreamcatcher05
Hey Back Off Nes Okay!
Shes been here longer than me and u put to gether now back off she knows what she talking about she is a sci-fier =P
And what do you know u joined 3 days ago
And it is true. I actually have played VGs w/my niece a few times, & I also played them w/my b.friend b4 he died, so don't say I haven't done that!
No problem nes, and sorry to hear about your loss
No prob...happened over a year ago... I may still sob over him, but I am doing pretty well about it, considering they were finally able to half my anti-anxiety meds, in addition, I have that final ****** date to remember him by!!Quote:
Originally posted by dreamcatcher05
No problem nes, and sorry to hear about your loss