Thread: Lucid Dream Trance Induction - Wake Back to Bed.

I'm off tomorrow and was going to WBTB for a WILD morning nap : D
I'm so doing this. Thank you!

Thank you for sharing this audio DL! I'll make sure to give it a shot as well!

So I listened to the video this morning during my 45 min WBTB. I slept from around 8pm to 3:45 am and went back to bed at 4:25am. Got me an hour long WILD. I took Galantamine and Alpha GPC, but I used to do this without them. So I am not sure what role supplements played, or the video, but I am sure it didn't hurt and It gave me an extra leyer of help. Thanks again!
http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/gab/...tm-tail-77358/

Originally Posted by gab

So I listened to the video this morning during my 45 min WBTB. I slept from around 8pm to 3:45 am and went back to bed at 4:25am. Got me an hour long WILD. I took Galantamine and Alpha GPC, but I used to do this without them. So I am not sure what role supplements played, or the video, but I am sure it didn't hurt and It gave me an extra leyer of help. Thanks again!
http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/gab/...tm-tail-77358/

Hey Gab,

Thanks for the feedback - really glad you had a nice long WILD! Yes, it'd be hard to tell which of those factors were the most important - certainly Galantamine and Alpha GPC would have had an impact. Either way, if you, or anyone else, experiments more with this, I'd be very glad to hear your experiences. I'll be uploading more content over the coming months and years, and i'll definitely incorporate feedback and ideas into future videos - the whole idea of this is to be a constantly adaptive, evolving and a community driven project, so there will be variations and updates on methods as we collectively work together to explore ideas that are the most effective.

I think initial uploads, like this one, will focus on basics, but in an interactive fashion - so rather than tutorials (of which there are plenty already in existence), I think it would be beneficial to create content that people can use during their practices. In the long run, we'll get into far more meaty and deeper explorations.

For those of you who'd like to support the project in these early stages - any likes, comments or subscriptions to the YouTube channel would be appreciated, it just helps keep the motivation high - it's nice to know things are being noticed and appreciated, rather than throwing them out into a vacum. I could definitely do with the additional moral support as it balances out the endless frustrations experienced when trying to record audio and video in a busy city environment! - It's a step outside of my writer's comfort zone!

I tried last night and I am happy to say that I did have an LD! Like gab I am not sure how much it was the recording but hey

I had 5 hours of sleep. Listened to the recording with a lot of distractions. I am sharing the house so I was really conscious of the noise.
I didn't want to use headphones so that I can fall asleep directly but I had to move the player during listening
as well as after the recording in the end. I also accidentally had it on loop so it started again and I had to reach back and switch it off. So a lot of interruptions.
There were also some other noises and by that time I was fairly alert again. Nevertheless, I relaxed and attempted a WILD using Daniel's
'Catch the Butterfly' approach and had an LD.

Although this is usually my technique for WBTB and it is usually succesful (through WILD, or DILD after the WILD attempt) I do think that the focus
during the first 10 minutes of instructions was quite useful to put me in the right frame of mind and I will incorporate the instructions into my WBTB routine.

I will suggest the recording to a couple of friends that are interested in LD but don't have the patience to do their reading on the techniques.
Maybe it will help them get the structure in a more interactive way.

Thank you Daniel! Looking forward to more material!



P.S: What is the soundtrack? Would be ideal for the anchor WILD technique!

@Erfeyah - Thanks for your feedback and congratulations on the LD!
I can certainly understand the interruptions of shared living space etc. To be quite frank, this recording is primarily, as you suggested, a tool to get the ball rolling for a WBTB - a useful focal point (especially for those, like your friends, who don't have the inclination to do a great deal of reading on the subject.). I expect some of the interruptions you experienced aided rather than hindered the process. The variety of variables that can take place during a WBTB, even when using a more focused approach such as this, are all part of the experimentation and learning process of these things. I'd certainly not suggest that this recording is any more than a useful starting point - it's certainly not some "final answer" for the WBTB, instead it's just a means to get people actively experimenting, recording and sharing their results. From there on we can all work together to develop new content, improved methods etc. etc.

Sso, your feedback is fantastic and I'd love to hear more of your experiences. With that in mind - I'm currently in the process of putting together the "Reality Nomad" website and its related forum (here on DV) so that this can be a far more interactive and community driven project. Stay tuned for that, as it shouldn't be too far off!

As for the soundtrack - it's actually a very simplified version of one of my own recordings, called "Hypnagogium", that I played live over the audio, so that it would follow the narrative. One of my creative outlets is music, in fact I have written a lot of lucid dream inspired music (much of which was composed within the dreamspace) that I may consider sharing on-line if there's an interest in these things. Essentially one of my dream journal processes is to record music I hear or write in dreams (I do the same with painting and artwork). This piece is much simpler than the majority - if it's something you like, I can upload a more complete version that could be used for the Anchor technique? If people are interested, I'll create a playlist on the YouTube channel and occasionally upload some of the tunes from my dream journal.

Originally Posted by DanielLove

As for the soundtrack - it's actually a very simplified version of one of my own recordings, called "Hypnagogium", that I played live over the audio, so that it would follow the narrative. One of my creative outlets is music, in fact I have written a lot of lucid dream inspired music (much of which was composed within the dreamspace) that I may consider sharing on-line if there's an interest in these things. Essentially one of my dream journal processes is to record music I hear or write in dreams (I do the same with painting and artwork). This piece is much simpler than the majority - if it's something you like, I can upload a more complete version that could be used for the Anchor technique? If people are interested, I'll create a playlist on the YouTube channel and occasionally upload some of the tunes from my dream journal.

Yes, I would be interested to have "Hypnagogium" if you could upload it at some point. A link to an audio file version in the description of the youtube video would be nice and it could help to introduce people to the website when that is ready.

I think this type of music, that is kind of meditative (not attention grabbing), is quite useful but hard to get right without it sounding cheesy. Even the fade in and out of the song is important in these cases as an abrupt ending/silence can be as much of a jolt as an attention grabbing element and people that make music for listening to in the usual manner don't pay attention to these things. So, a collection of sounds/music to accompany specific techniques or to be used as alarms could be useful...

Thanks!

Thanks for this. I also gave it a shot at an unplanned WBTB last night where I found myself awake and not easily falling back to sleep @ around 5 hours, so I fired this up on my phone. I did the whole thing while lying in bed because I typically never fall asleep quickly unless I work really hard to do so, and so I was thoroughly awake already. It took me a little while to fall back asleep still afterwards. I find I need not to pay attention at all to my physical body, so the "feel the warmth of the bed under your body" didn't work for me, I in fact prefer to be a bit on the cool side while falling asleep, so sensations of warmth (unless the room is really cold) are distracting for me.

I did not get a LD. WILDs are decidedly not my forte. However, I did have some sort of semi-lucid perhaps sense during a scene (possibly the first scene) of the following dream, where I was looking through a window to the outside and having some, undefinable perhaps, vague thought of dreaming. I did not RC though and the dream continued on, non-lucid.

Thanks Daniel! Tried it last night, but no success unfortunately One issue I have is that as in the MP3 you suggest that going back to sleep on your back is better, I just find that I can't get to sleep on my back! The problem is, I seem to get to sleep too easily on my side! I tried staying on my back last night, and did seem to be getting close. On a couple of occasions I had brief glimpses of the dream scene starting to form, but them I snap out back to being awake. (I have managed to WILD a few times, if only brief LDs, so I know what to look for). After about 3/4 of an hour I relented and turned on my side, but then slept too well! I did have some quite good vivid dreams, but nothing close to lucidity.

I do like the audio though. Thanks again for sharing!

Originally Posted by DanielLove

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As for the soundtrack - it's actually a very simplified version of one of my own recordings, called "Hypnagogium"...

OOoOoh! Now that adds extra push for me, because I LOVE hypnagogic hallucinations. Now I'm gonna listen to it from different angle.

Finally listened to this and managed to break my dry spell with 2 lucids I think it was because of the unexpected "get up and do stuff"(effort) part of the audio. I was almost settling down for just visualizing the whole thing, but I brought my self to actually do it haha. I guess it was the right choice.

I"m 42 percent of the way done with your book on my kindle. nice to meet you.