Painfull WILD.... learned a lesson, and PISSED OFF!!!!

Ok... I'm so pissed off. I did a succesfull WILD like last time...
It was a bit un intentional, my dad woke me up to look after to dog for a few min at 8, so I went upstairs and I totally forgot about trying to recall my dreams etc so ofcourse after 30 mins I could not recall anything. That was a bit of a dissapointement for me, so I went back to bed to see if I could get some more results. I did a WILD, and it totally worked, though different then I thought it would be.

I was lying on my back, slowly drifting off to sleep, and I visualised myself lying on a big mountain, sun on my face, feeling my hands brush trough the long grass, and leaning back on a tree, while looking at the magnificent view on a valley and big snow covered mountains. I imagnined myself sniffing up the fresh air, and looking at the view. Evertime I had another thought, I'd put it on a cloud and I let it float into the sky where it dissapeared in the other clouds. Suddenly, WHAM I was under pressure again, and millisecconds later I was in the vortex/wormhole I described earlier. Funny thing is, I could still hear the sounds outside. I was lying on my back, and I felt pressure on my stomach and it sort of hurt. I didnt feel pain but I could still feel it very much and it was annoying. I tried ignoring it and concentrate on getting in a dream, but it did not work. It was very intense it also felt as if I could not breathe, and I opened my eyes with alot of effort and moved my hand to make it stop. I was relieved that it ended... but also PISSED OFF! I wasted a perfect WILD but it was just too damn hard.

Hey, don't be pissed! You made progress, right? And you learned something? So it isn't all bad. :)

I've heard this pressure described before on the chest/stomach...and the pain that accomponied thereafter.
Ouch.

anybody ever had a hard time breathing while trying a WILD? I tried last nite and I had a hard time breathing after a while. The xpeirence was wild though...... I hope you get more luck CT.

*shrugs* you were just in sleep paralysis. just keep it up, you're doing fine. it's not good to get so pissed over these things. keep a good attitude.

Ive had that chest thing happen to me before, It sucks, you sorta have to learn how to ignore it

I have a hard time breathing. Simply because I'm concentrating too hard.

Yeah, I did learn. Dont sleep on your back. ^^

I'm still postive I was just pretty pissed because I could not ignore/handle it. Thing is I'd be ashamed if it where like "oooh pain ouchie I cant handle this lets wake up"... I really really tried. But I coulndt. http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232...ics/stress.gif

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Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
keep a good attitude.

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Yeah yeah, I am!!! Really! Its very hard for me not to be.

But it was just so damn frustrating! I tried sooo hard.

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Originally posted by CT
Yeah, I did learn. Dont sleep on your back. ^^

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Is that why my WILDs never work?

dunno really, i've decided to try WILDS on my back again because my last incidental one wasnt annoying.

Practice makes perfect! Let us know how it turns out the next time! :lol:

I had a hard time with the breathing thing too, it feels like you are going to suffocate, your consious, but yourmind is letting go of your body and you feel the lack of controll on your breathing as it turns to automatic breathing that the sub brain takes care of, its freaky to say the least, the best thing to do is to try and distact yoruself with something else and try not to focus on your breathing... Afer a while you will notice it but it wont bug you =) :D

I heard if you feel the pressure you can try to get out of your body and have a oobe.

Hmm, I have a problem with WILDs - when I'm "almost there" and feel that I'll enter a dream in few min, I take control of my breathing. And I cant let go... :cry: I mean I cant give it back to subconscious...
And it ruins whole effect...

OK!! Thanks Seri, I guess that explains the pressure. I've felt it to, but only when I am on my back.
If I am on my side or stomach, I do not feel the pressure. Also, the vortex symptoms are more severe when I am on my back.

The only WILD I've been able to pull off was when I was on my stomach.

I always have trouble knowing when to stop concentrating on my breating...

It always ends up waking me up when I get to the sleep paralisis state....

It pisses me off too

Tonight I entered a WILD, but in my WILD, my sister woke me up! At first I resisted and knew it's just a dream, but she was so damn annoying!

She kept telling me she's real and it's 2 pm, and I have to get up and go to my job, and I sleep too much...

And while she's telling me this, I experience true WILD, with colors swirling behing my eyelids, sounds, chills and force flowing through my body...

I dont remember what happened in the end, but I guess I lost my lucidity...

DAMN! I'm so pissed! perfect wild ruined by annoying dream character! :cry:

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That must have been so annoying...

As if a WILD wasn't hard enough, knowing that you have high level lucidity and can do whatever you want, all frustated by a dream character...

If I was you I would have kicked her into a wall or something...

Or you could always try spinning or flying away I guess....

Aw, that must suck...

Last time I succeeded in a WILD was equally frustrating because I ended up having a twisted non-lucid false awakening, where I took a piece of metal out of my stomache to get rid of the pressure, then went back to try a wild, and had another false awakening in my dream, tried another wild in my dream, and again, and again. Its confusing as hell.

i dont know if u guys notice but do u find that when trying to obe or something in a position other than fklat on ur bak u fall asleep...i have every time and like yas say....breathing difficulties are amplified on ur bak as ur supporting ur torso while breathing!!

aw! no luck!

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Originally posted by CT
I was lying on my back, and I felt pressure on my stomach and it sort of hurt. I didnt feel pain but I could still feel it very much and it was annoying. I tried ignoring it and concentrate on getting in a dream, but it did not work. It was very intense it also felt as if I could not breathe, and I opened my eyes with alot of effort and moved my hand to make it stop. I was relieved that it ended... but also PISSED OFF! I wasted a perfect WILD but it was just too damn hard.

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-Is this something who happens often, during a WILD?

-Do anyone know why this happens?

I've had it happen more often. Dunno why it happens, perhaps its just a psychological thing.

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Originally posted by Alric
I heard if you feel the pressure you can try to get out of your body and have a oobe.

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I was just about to post that! Sounds like a beginning stage of an OOBE, which is by far more complicated and harder to obtain than a WILD.

WOW!!!! Most lucid people end up having OOBE's at some point I think.

Good luck

Blissful

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I heard if you feel the pressure you can try to get out of your body and have a oobe.

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Sounds like a beginning stage of an OOBE, which is by far more complicated and harder to obtain than a WILD.
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Is it people who wish to have a OOBE?
I know I don't, I think it is unpleasant.
Anyway, thats just me...

OBE's are WILDS .... :wink:

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Originally posted by CT
OBE's are WILDS .... :wink:

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Thanks.

I don't know so much about that sort of things.

Its just my opinion though!!!

well you already read what I had to say in this thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4857

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Originally posted by CT
OBE's are WILDS .... :wink:

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Not really.. OBE's are real time... you are out of your body and can infact turn around and see yourself sleeping. WILD is a form of LD's.. OBE is different. Although both are considered to be part of the astral world.

If you want to learn more about OBE's, go to www.astralpulse.com
The message board there is FILLED with information that goes well beyond Lucidity.

And, OBE's can be very exciting (from what I read, I almost projected but woke myself up because I had fear in me at that time, now that I don't I can't get there again go figure).

Blissful

i've tried WILD once before, but i had the breathing problem. I havn't tried since then but i'll try tonight on my stomache and let you know how it goes. I think one of the reasons was that i was concentrating on my breathing and thats when i started to notice, it kind of felt like someone was sitting on me. I got pretty close while ignoring it, i had strong sensations of smell and taste, it was pretty cool. I'll see if laying on my stomache helps the breathing tonight....

thanks blissfull, i was just about to go beserk over that statement....

how could he confuse the two?!!?!? :?: :?: :?:

try sleeping in the fetal position, i just tried it last night and almost got there, but it was a bit sudden, and I got shocked, couldnt go back into it

I havent ever experienced pain when trying/doing wilds, and thats usually what i try to do... (while on my back)

what the---? someone explain..... :?

it worked! i had my first real lucid dream last night, it was incredible. i got up at 4:30 and read a little, and then relaxed. I layed on my side not my back this time and my breathing was fine, as long as you don't pay much attention to it, because thats what i did. I layed down and pictured myself in a dream, i wanted the dream to be at school so thats what i thought about, soon enough i started seeing swirls of color. I emptied my mind and watched the colors and sooner or later i found myself at school. I was careful not to come into the dream to suddenly so i waited a few seconds, then i held my arm up, exepecting to see it and it was there, then my whole body followed and i was in the dream. First i met up with one of my friends in school. I started looking around and noticed that the clocks would jump ahead exetrememly far if you looked at them a few times. They weren't even digital clocks but thats not the point, i tried to get my friend to realize he was dreaming too. I pointed out the clocks,i floated for him, i called teachers a few select names...and i even made him repeat after me "I am dreaming". after all that he still didn't seem to catch on so i decided to have some fun. I was running around the school as fast as i could so then i went streaking through the school, it was prety crazy. I decided i would go swimming, in the pool that was for somereason in the school. so anyway, i get out of the pool and notice a flaoting folder, turns out some invisible guy was holding it and i followed him to a classroom. In the classroom it seemed to be pet day or somthing of the sort becuase everyone had they're pets. One girl showed my her dog and i said, no thats a pig, and all of the sudden it transformed right there from dog to pig.Then i lost my ld for a while as i watched two kids fighitng in the back of a pickup truck, and all o fthe sudden they were attacked my a UFO. i found myself being one of the kids fighting and dove under a nearby car for protection. I ended up going back to my other real body and being called outside. These people gave me 3 glass eyes and told me i had to fight the aliens, then i realized and said, no i own't becuase im dreaming. Then i remember flying and it was incredible, i was flying to australia because one of my friends is vacationing there, but i ended up waking up on the way, i was amazed at how clear everything was and how real it felt. anyway....try doing WILD on your side, it worked for me and i can't wait to have another tonight

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it worked! i had my first real lucid dream last night, it was incredible. i got up at 4:30 and read a little, and then relaxed. I layed on my side not my back this time and my breathing was fine, as long as you don't pay much attention to it, because thats what i did. I layed down and pictured myself in a dream, i wanted the dream to be at school so thats what i thought about, soon enough i started seeing swirls of color. I emptied my mind and watched the colors and sooner or later i found myself at school. I was careful not to come into the dream to suddenly so i waited a few seconds, then i held my arm up, exepecting to see it and it was there, then my whole body followed and i was in the dream. First i met up with one of my friends in school. I started looking around and noticed that the clocks would jump ahead exetrememly far if you looked at them a few times. They weren't even digital clocks but thats not the point, i tried to get my friend to realize he was dreaming too. I pointed out the clocks,i floated for him, i called teachers a few select names...and i even made him repeat after me \"I am dreaming\". after all that he still didn't seem to catch on so i decided to have some fun. I was running around the school as fast as i could so then i went streaking through the school, it was prety crazy. I decided i would go swimming, in the pool that was for somereason in the school. so anyway, i get out of the pool and notice a flaoting folder, turns out some invisible guy was holding it and i followed him to a classroom. In the classroom it seemed to be pet day or somthing of the sort becuase everyone had they're pets. One girl showed my her dog and i said, no thats a pig, and all of the sudden it transformed right there from dog to pig.Then i lost my ld for a while as i watched two kids fighitng in the back of a pickup truck, and all o fthe sudden they were attacked my a UFO. i found myself being one of the kids fighting and dove under a nearby car for protection. I ended up going back to my other real body and being called outside. These people gave me 3 glass eyes and told me i had to fight the aliens, then i realized and said, no i own't becuase im dreaming. Then i remember flying and it was incredible, i was flying to australia because one of my friends is vacationing there, but i ended up waking up on the way, i was amazed at how clear everything was and how real it felt. anyway....try doing WILD on your side, it worked for me and i can't wait to have another tonight

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YAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Way to go man!!!!! That sounds like a great WILD. You seem to have been very lucid and have had a lot of clarity and control, and it lasted quite some time. I am so glad you were able to enter the dream world through the WILD method, which is my personal fav whenever I get the chance to try one. That seems like it was a very interesting experience, something I would like to try to(wrecking havoc back in school or in college)

Great Job, and I wish you many more!!!!