Im never gonna be able to lucid dream

Ive tried EVERYTHING. I just feel like I am not gonna be able to do it even if I try really hard... :( Is there any other techniques???

Well,unless you're a natural,or you try really hard,you'll never know. :tongue: Ide suggest going a week with WBTB and Wild,trying to narrow and nail the times of your rem. I think it's pretty hard to not eventually have just one lucid.

Sorry to see that you're having some frustration.. I don't know for how long you've been doing this but i'll try to help with what i can.

The first thing that many people start doing when they start learning to lucid dream is to run over all the techniques available in a short timespan, thus unable to see success, a large amount of frustration is created. I understand this myself as i have done the same mistake back a few years ago. The thing is that LDing is a skill just like any other thing. Noone can be a pro sportsperson just by learning a technique to apply. But at the same time, i don't mean that it'd take a long time to achieve a lucid dream either.

Mindset is important.. Be relaxed about it. No need to rush, and trust me that if you rush something that needs time, you'll end up wasting way much more time than if you started it slow. Stressing out about it will only work against you, and especially trying too hard will do the same. Be interested in your normal dreams. Maybe your dreams are boring to you, but don't make the mistake of disregarding them as a waste of time. Lucid dreams are dreams after all. And i will say it again: Be relaxed about LDing. Don't be tensed up and frustrated if you don't have LDs immediately. Yes, i know that LDing is really fun and exciting and i also know that it's frustrating to not get one when you're trying your best, but don't let that frustration and rush ruin your efforts.

Now to be a bit more practical with what i'm saying.. I find that the hardest part about LDing for me was finding a method that personally worked for me.

WBTB, MILD, RCs, DJs.. And the list goes on..
Pick one that you feel comfortable learning and executing, and stick with it. Don't drop a technique a week after starting it up for example. You may not get an LD instantly, but that's normal. Understanding that techniques are NOT magic pills for success is important. I find that WBTB is very helpful but i don't recommend WILD when you're starting out unless you have a talent for it.

I personally had success with RCs in my beginning days, but only later did i realise that i had also been unintentionally doing WBTB alongside it. Try to build your way up with RCs and DJs aswell. Also keep in mind that it's alright to take it slow or else you're going to burn yourself out and become stressed.

As a last note, you may want to check Stephen Laberge's book on lucid dreaming; "ETWOLD" Also, you may want to seek help from more experienced users to help you out just in case.. Because like i said, i'm not an expert. The only thing i have going for me is that i've been doing this for many years..

thank you guys <3 I started a work book in this forum and its keeping me motivated to keep going

Ive also discovered recently,that having another person,whether it be on Dream Views,or Irl,to work along with helps.

Edit: Lol I don't know how I didn't notice,aside from being very sleepy from a fail WBTB I still haven't been able to sleep after,but there is actually a LD buddy finder thread sticky at the top of this forum.