Experiences with Blue Lotus and can it have negative effects on lucid dreaming?
I want to know if anyone has had, from experience, adverse effects when trying to use this plant for lucid dreaming. I have had a lot of experience with supplement induced lucid dreams for years now and have not heard of Blue lotus until recently. I have tried it on three separate attempts, one with grinding the flower into capsules, making a mild dose tea batch, and lastly just eating the flowers. They were all were paired with other supplements that I have much experience with to induce lucidity. Now I am almost certain that these supplements on their own or when stacked with one another do not create adverse effects on my dreams from the sheer amount of occasions I have used them.
Take also into account that the three nights were spread about four days apart from each other, they were also conducted with a WBTB after 5 hours of sleep.
The first nights batch goes as follows: Galantamine 8mg, Choline 600mg, Alpha GPC 300mg, DMAE 120mg, Gingko Biloba 120mg, Passion Flower 350mg, Peppermint 350mg, Melatonin 300mcg, and Blue Lotus 2g (Grinded Capsules)
~As a result I awoke into a lucid nightmare, which I never have nightmares that had some extremely dark settings, bizarre scenarios, and every person was a shadow or silhouette. On top of that I had countless false awakenings into what I thought was sleep paralysis but it was the feeling of sleep paralysis within a dream. I had substantially greater awareness than other lucid dreams but I was also powerless and had no control which with an unwanted setting is what I consider a lucid nightmare. Now I know Galantamine on its own or Mugwort can cause dreams like this when used repetitively on a day to day basis but I have tried this batch without the Blue lotus and had some great and profound experiences.
The second nights batch: Huperzine A 400mcg, Choline 600mg, Alpha GPC 150mg, DMAE 120mg, Gingko Biloba 120mg, Passion Flower 350mg, Peppermint 350mg, Melatonin 300mcg, and Blue Lotus 1L (in 5g prepared tea)
~This one caused a dream where I was uncomfortable in every scene, for example looking at any light source made me go momentarily blind, which I knew it just cut to darkness. I became lucid then lost it within a couple of different scenarios, then there were nuisance dream characters that were continuously bothersome even through different dream scenes. Overall the experience was not a nightmare but just a dream full of unwanted situations and scenarios.
The third batch: Huperzine A 400mcg, Choline 600mg, DMAE 120mg, Gingko Biloba 120mg, Passion Flower 350mg, Peppermint 350mg, Melatonin 300mcg, and Blue Lotus
2.5 grams (Ingested Flowers)
~The dream was similar to the one of night 2 but it was just as a nuisance in its scenarios and I lost lucidity early on as well. It was a dream sequence that lasted over six hours which surprised me when I decided not to take Alpha GPC. This dream was so long, so vivid, and so annoying that I didn't even bother to write it down or try to recall it when I woke up. Just thinking back on how frustrated I was within the dream and not being able to migrate to a better dream scene got me irritated.
The reason my batch is so lengthy happened about year or so ago when I curiously stacked LucidEsc with a nootropic called NeuroIgnite and had an intense lucid dream with incomparable control, stabililty, and awareness. It was my personal best batch, though I needed at some point to lessen the intensity and pace as well as combat the rare but bad insomnia and that is where the Peppermint, Passion Flower, and Melatonin come into play.
But back to the topic, so far I have had no pleasant experiences with Blue Lotus. It could be that Blue Lotus may counteract with one of the other supplements even though I read up that it will synergistically pair up with a lot of things. I am considering for my next attempt to take a more mild dose and see what it does while awake and then try it again by itself for dreaming even if I more than likely will not be lucid. I know that someone will mention that this should of been the first method I should have attempted when trying something new, but I solely wanted to try this herb for lucid dreaming and wanted to guarantee lucidity in my attempt. Although in some time I may just discover that it could have been just a bad batch or supplier.
More importantly I want to learn more from any similar experiences or any experience with taking Blue Lotus.
