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      Quote Originally Posted by TheUncanny View Post
      That just gave me an idea!

      So, in my LDs, I've run into an issue with flying too high. At some point I fly so high that I can see where my dreamscape ends, and nothing but a sky-colored void exists beyond it (like the whole thing is just a movie set or level in a video game).

      When I see this, for whatever reason, I tend to lose control of my flight, speeding toward that void, flipping and spinning out of control, causing the dream to end.

      As such, I normally try to avoid flying too high...but I wonder if I can use this to intentionally change the dreamscape. Just fly straight up until the dream turns to that void, then use intention/visualization to create the new scene from there.

      Now that I've written this all out, it seems like it might be a convoluted variation of just covering my eyes, but might be fun to try.
      I used your suggestion last night and successfully changed the dream location. Thanks!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      Do you do something special to extend your lucids? Or have you just improved from practice and experience?
      Not really, just improved through practice and experience I guess.

      I did go through a stage where I was having short lucid's and waking up early, and found that it was mostly because I was becoming too aware, too conscious in the dream by exerting too much control or using techniques that would raise my level of awareness too high.
      During this period in my dreaming life, I tried going with the flow of the dream and following the plot as a way to experiment and see if it made lucid's last longer.
      I found that it did indeed make them much longer, but there are a few consequences... you can easily lose lucidity and have less control because you have to follow the story.
      It did make me realize something important though, if a dream doesn't have a story to it, a plot to follow, then it's likely to end quicker.

      In some lucid's, like the one I mentioned where I thought maybe I had slipped into a coma, I actually couldn't wake myself up no matter how hard I tried.
      I don't really know why, maybe my body was just in a deeper state of sleep or something.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      I used your suggestion last night and successfully changed the dream location. Thanks!
      Glad it worked! I hope the next time I'm lucid *before* I hurdle into the sky 😆

      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      My longest lucid dream felt about 10 minutes. Do you do something special to extend your lucids? Or have you just improved from practice and experience? Iíve found prolonged awareness of the environment and my senses when I first get lucid helps stabilise and extend mine.
      I made a response below that might apply to this.

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      click here
      Basically it's a way to "reverse" the dream fade that can result in low vividness / instability, or even cause the dream to end all together.

      I believe it works by reducing your sensory input, making it significantly easier to maintain/regain focus, calmness, clarity, etc. I've used it many times to both improve dream stability and vividness, as well as buy more time before the dream ends.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Eonnn View Post
      During this period in my dreaming life, I tried going with the flow of the dream and following the plot as a way to experiment and see if it made lucid's last longer.
      I found that it did indeed make them much longer, but there are a few consequences... you can easily lose lucidity and have less control because you have to follow the story.
      It did make me realize something important though, if a dream doesn't have a story to it, a plot to follow, then it's likely to end quicker.
      Interesting. When I get lucid usually the plot ends completely. I usually remain in the same location but the plot and even the characters usually disappear completely. I therefore find a lot of my lucids start with me alone and usually new characters appear as it goes on. My longest lucid dreams usually occur when I simply walk through them and observe the setting and the things around me. If I do this for long enough I can then move on to pursuing goals and more complicated things. Problem is I sometimes I forget this step and do something more complex and wake up quicker.

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      So I managed to experiment again last night with running through a wall as a way of changing location. I had great success with this again though it wasnít the smoothest transition but very fascinating!

      So after becoming lucid and realising Iím trapped in a room with no exit I decide Iíve had enough and Iím going to run through the wall and change location. As before I walk to the middle of the room and then start running full speed towards the wall and yell out where I want to go which in this case was a tropical island, similar to Phuket and I hoped my dream would get my message and change it for me. Yelling also gives me an adrenaline boost and I run fast and hurtle straight through the wall but instead of coming out where I desire I once again fall into a black abyss. Iím now falling or floating downward and everything is black around me. As I fall I can feel myself gently swaying side to side and as I do I can feel the sensation of my eyes behind their sockets. I worry Iím going to wake up and so I look around for signs of a dream forming. Itís then I see a shimmering green ball pass by in the dark and inside I can see a womanís face. Itís almost like a visual representation of a memory. I reach towards it hoping I can grab it but it disappears. I then realise Iím going to need to visualise something and so I start trying to see the islands in my minds eye and suddenly when I look down I see the shimmering outline of green shapes over blue and realise Iím seeing the islands on the ocean forming below me. I keep concentrating but theyíre not getting any clearer. I feel like Iím using the full power of my brain and pushing the limits of the dream world but itís not enough and theyíre not appearing clearly below me. Then I look to my right and as I do Iím suddenly stood on a path on a tropical looking island with green mountains in the distance that look like those in Hawaii. It worked! I had transported to a new location similar to where I desired and it was now vivid and clear!

      I learnt a few things from this experience. Firstly that I need to visualise the location I want more clearly before running and Ďexpectí to see it at the other side so I donít fall into the void again. Secondly trying to visualise and form something in front of my eyes is difficult and even unnecessary as I learnt thirdly and most importantly that dreams arenít something you travel to, nor are they something you have to build up from scratch. They can be manifested in an instant and simply looking to to your right can be enough to bring you to where you want to be.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      I learnt a few things from this experience. Firstly that I need to visualise the location I want more clearly before running and ‘expect’ to see it at the other side so I don’t fall into the void again. Secondly trying to visualise and form something in front of my eyes is difficult and even unnecessary as I learnt thirdly and most importantly that dreams aren’t something you travel to, nor are they something you have to build up from scratch. They can be manifested in an instant and simply looking to to your right can be enough to bring you to where you want to be.
      Interesting experience and congrats on the success. Consider this trick next time. The more magical the experience such as teleporting the less likely that your mind will not object. In order to avoid this kind of objection you can explain to your mind why such and such makes sense. In your case of the room I might take a moment and imagine where this room is. It is on the island you want. Yes, I remember it is in a grass field with palm trees and the sea nearby. I am already on the island but need to get out of this room, then I will be outside on the island. that kind of thought.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
      In your case of the room I might take a moment and imagine where this room is. It is on the island you want. Yes, I remember it is in a grass field with palm trees and the sea nearby. I am already on the island but need to get out of this room, then I will be outside on the island. that kind of thought.
      Great suggestion thanks! That would simplify it somewhat. Hopefully in time I can get doors to work in this way as I think my mind interprets running through a wall as breaking the dream and throwing myself out of it which is why I always end up falling in the dark void.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      Great suggestion thanks! That would simplify it somewhat. Hopefully in time I can get doors to work in this way as I think my mind interprets running through a wall as breaking the dream and throwing myself out of it which is why I always end up falling in the dark void.
      Try using the same logic. Your mind wants an easy explanation. "I am not in a room with no doors. The door is just well hidden. That's right, I can see it now. I think it is one of those push latches. I just need to push on various spots to trigger it."
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