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      Quote Originally Posted by TheUncanny View Post
      That just gave me an idea!

      So, in my LDs, I've run into an issue with flying too high. At some point I fly so high that I can see where my dreamscape ends, and nothing but a sky-colored void exists beyond it (like the whole thing is just a movie set or level in a video game).

      When I see this, for whatever reason, I tend to lose control of my flight, speeding toward that void, flipping and spinning out of control, causing the dream to end.

      As such, I normally try to avoid flying too high...but I wonder if I can use this to intentionally change the dreamscape. Just fly straight up until the dream turns to that void, then use intention/visualization to create the new scene from there.

      Now that I've written this all out, it seems like it might be a convoluted variation of just covering my eyes, but might be fun to try.
      I used your suggestion last night and successfully changed the dream location. Thanks!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      Do you do something special to extend your lucids? Or have you just improved from practice and experience?
      Not really, just improved through practice and experience I guess.

      I did go through a stage where I was having short lucid's and waking up early, and found that it was mostly because I was becoming too aware, too conscious in the dream by exerting too much control or using techniques that would raise my level of awareness too high.
      During this period in my dreaming life, I tried going with the flow of the dream and following the plot as a way to experiment and see if it made lucid's last longer.
      I found that it did indeed make them much longer, but there are a few consequences... you can easily lose lucidity and have less control because you have to follow the story.
      It did make me realize something important though, if a dream doesn't have a story to it, a plot to follow, then it's likely to end quicker.

      In some lucid's, like the one I mentioned where I thought maybe I had slipped into a coma, I actually couldn't wake myself up no matter how hard I tried.
      I don't really know why, maybe my body was just in a deeper state of sleep or something.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      I used your suggestion last night and successfully changed the dream location. Thanks!
      Glad it worked! I hope the next time I'm lucid *before* I hurdle into the sky 😆

      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      My longest lucid dream felt about 10 minutes. Do you do something special to extend your lucids? Or have you just improved from practice and experience? I’ve found prolonged awareness of the environment and my senses when I first get lucid helps stabilise and extend mine.
      I made a response below that might apply to this.

      Quote Originally Posted by TheUncanny View Post
      click here
      Basically it's a way to "reverse" the dream fade that can result in low vividness / instability, or even cause the dream to end all together.

      I believe it works by reducing your sensory input, making it significantly easier to maintain/regain focus, calmness, clarity, etc. I've used it many times to both improve dream stability and vividness, as well as buy more time before the dream ends.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Eonnn View Post
      During this period in my dreaming life, I tried going with the flow of the dream and following the plot as a way to experiment and see if it made lucid's last longer.
      I found that it did indeed make them much longer, but there are a few consequences... you can easily lose lucidity and have less control because you have to follow the story.
      It did make me realize something important though, if a dream doesn't have a story to it, a plot to follow, then it's likely to end quicker.
      Interesting. When I get lucid usually the plot ends completely. I usually remain in the same location but the plot and even the characters usually disappear completely. I therefore find a lot of my lucids start with me alone and usually new characters appear as it goes on. My longest lucid dreams usually occur when I simply walk through them and observe the setting and the things around me. If I do this for long enough I can then move on to pursuing goals and more complicated things. Problem is I sometimes I forget this step and do something more complex and wake up quicker.

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      So I managed to experiment again last night with running through a wall as a way of changing location. I had great success with this again though it wasn’t the smoothest transition but very fascinating!

      So after becoming lucid and realising I’m trapped in a room with no exit I decide I’ve had enough and I’m going to run through the wall and change location. As before I walk to the middle of the room and then start running full speed towards the wall and yell out where I want to go which in this case was a tropical island, similar to Phuket and I hoped my dream would get my message and change it for me. Yelling also gives me an adrenaline boost and I run fast and hurtle straight through the wall but instead of coming out where I desire I once again fall into a black abyss. I’m now falling or floating downward and everything is black around me. As I fall I can feel myself gently swaying side to side and as I do I can feel the sensation of my eyes behind their sockets. I worry I’m going to wake up and so I look around for signs of a dream forming. It’s then I see a shimmering green ball pass by in the dark and inside I can see a woman’s face. It’s almost like a visual representation of a memory. I reach towards it hoping I can grab it but it disappears. I then realise I’m going to need to visualise something and so I start trying to see the islands in my minds eye and suddenly when I look down I see the shimmering outline of green shapes over blue and realise I’m seeing the islands on the ocean forming below me. I keep concentrating but they’re not getting any clearer. I feel like I’m using the full power of my brain and pushing the limits of the dream world but it’s not enough and they’re not appearing clearly below me. Then I look to my right and as I do I’m suddenly stood on a path on a tropical looking island with green mountains in the distance that look like those in Hawaii. It worked! I had transported to a new location similar to where I desired and it was now vivid and clear!

      I learnt a few things from this experience. Firstly that I need to visualise the location I want more clearly before running and ‘expect’ to see it at the other side so I don’t fall into the void again. Secondly trying to visualise and form something in front of my eyes is difficult and even unnecessary as I learnt thirdly and most importantly that dreams aren’t something you travel to, nor are they something you have to build up from scratch. They can be manifested in an instant and simply looking to to your right can be enough to bring you to where you want to be.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      I learnt a few things from this experience. Firstly that I need to visualise the location I want more clearly before running and ‘expect’ to see it at the other side so I don’t fall into the void again. Secondly trying to visualise and form something in front of my eyes is difficult and even unnecessary as I learnt thirdly and most importantly that dreams aren’t something you travel to, nor are they something you have to build up from scratch. They can be manifested in an instant and simply looking to to your right can be enough to bring you to where you want to be.
      Interesting experience and congrats on the success. Consider this trick next time. The more magical the experience such as teleporting the less likely that your mind will not object. In order to avoid this kind of objection you can explain to your mind why such and such makes sense. In your case of the room I might take a moment and imagine where this room is. It is on the island you want. Yes, I remember it is in a grass field with palm trees and the sea nearby. I am already on the island but need to get out of this room, then I will be outside on the island. that kind of thought.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
      In your case of the room I might take a moment and imagine where this room is. It is on the island you want. Yes, I remember it is in a grass field with palm trees and the sea nearby. I am already on the island but need to get out of this room, then I will be outside on the island. that kind of thought.
      Great suggestion thanks! That would simplify it somewhat. Hopefully in time I can get doors to work in this way as I think my mind interprets running through a wall as breaking the dream and throwing myself out of it which is why I always end up falling in the dark void.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      Great suggestion thanks! That would simplify it somewhat. Hopefully in time I can get doors to work in this way as I think my mind interprets running through a wall as breaking the dream and throwing myself out of it which is why I always end up falling in the dark void.
      Try using the same logic. Your mind wants an easy explanation. "I am not in a room with no doors. The door is just well hidden. That's right, I can see it now. I think it is one of those push latches. I just need to push on various spots to trigger it."
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      So I’ve been carrying on with my attempts to change location by running through walls and still encountering the same issue. Even though I call out to the dream that “I want to go into outer space!” (which is my current goal) and try visualise it as I do I am still finding myself floating in total darkness when I leap through the wall. I can use this dark void to manifest new locations but I never usually get what I want. In my most recent attempt I tried to visualise the earth in front of me and was able to make it appear out of the blackness but it wasn’t a realistic depiction of the earth and looked more like a computer generated representation rather than the real thing. So I’m now wondering about dream incubation and if spending some time watching videos and looking at photographs of the earth from space would help solidify the image in my mind so that it appears and feels more realistic in the dream? Like feeding my subconscious the data so that it can create it later. Do people find this works? Or is the problem more to do with dream control and expectation and I don’t fully believe I could conjure up a realistic enough image which is why it didn’t work?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      So I’ve been carrying on with my attempts to change location by running through walls and still encountering the same issue. Even though I call out to the dream that “I want to go into outer space!” (which is my current goal) and try visualise it as I do I am still finding myself floating in total darkness when I leap through the wall. I can use this dark void to manifest new locations but I never usually get what I want. In my most recent attempt I tried to visualise the earth in front of me and was able to make it appear out of the blackness but it wasn’t a realistic depiction of the earth and looked more like a computer generated representation rather than the real thing. So I’m now wondering about dream incubation and if spending some time watching videos and looking at photographs of the earth from space would help solidify the image in my mind so that it appears and feels more realistic in the dream? Like feeding my subconscious the data so that it can create it later. Do people find this works? Or is the problem more to do with dream control and expectation and I don’t fully believe I could conjure up a realistic enough image which is why it didn’t work?
      One thing I might try is saying something like "Increase realness" "Increase vividness," or something to that effect, to the Dream Source. I've done something similar, and it has worked for me to make my dreams more vivid while lucid. Just state it like a command, and see what happens. Also, if you want to visit outer space, what about flying up?

      Btw, a little off topic, but.. are you named after the fossil of one of the first creatures that walked on land? Was teaching this stuff to my 7th graders the other day and I was like. ... hey, that name sounds familiar.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      So I’ve been carrying on with my attempts to change location by running through walls and still encountering the same issue. Even though I call out to the dream that “I want to go into outer space!” (which is my current goal) and try visualise it as I do I am still finding myself floating in total darkness when I leap through the wall. I can use this dark void to manifest new locations but I never usually get what I want. In my most recent attempt I tried to visualise the earth in front of me and was able to make it appear out of the blackness but it wasn’t a realistic depiction of the earth and looked more like a computer generated representation rather than the real thing. So I’m now wondering about dream incubation and if spending some time watching videos and looking at photographs of the earth from space would help solidify the image in my mind so that it appears and feels more realistic in the dream? Like feeding my subconscious the data so that it can create it later. Do people find this works? Or is the problem more to do with dream control and expectation and I don’t fully believe I could conjure up a realistic enough image which is why it didn’t work?
      Sounds like you are doing good. I would just modify how you think during this. You end up in a void? "Yay! I made it to outer space!" The Earth looks all digital? "Wow, amazing, the Earth looks so real, I can see my home region!"

      Yes. looking at the photos is a great plan.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      One thing I might try is saying something like "Increase realness" "Increase vividness," or something to that effect, to the Dream Source. I've done something similar, and it has worked for me to make my dreams more vivid while lucid. Just state it like a command, and see what happens. Also, if you want to visit outer space, what about flying up?

      Btw, a little off topic, but.. are you named after the fossil of one of the first creatures that walked on land? Was teaching this stuff to my 7th graders the other day and I was like. ... hey, that name sounds familiar.
      Flying up would make sense but I’m a bit nervous about flying in general as it usually wakes me up quite quickly. Worth trying again though.

      Yes! That’s correct about Tiktaalik. I always liked the symbolism of a little creature leaving the water and going off and exploring a new world. Obviously it didn’t quite happen like that but it’s a nice idea and I compare it to my journey from reality into lucid dreaming. Hence the name. 🙂
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      Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
      Sounds like you are doing good. I would just modify how you think during this. You end up in a void? "Yay! I made it to outer space!" The Earth looks all digital? "Wow, amazing, the Earth looks so real, I can see my home region!"

      Yes. looking at the photos is a great plan.
      Thanks for the tips. When I entered the void I did try this way of thinking. I was floating there and told myself that’s because I’m in zero gravity. I then looked around for stars and the earth but it wasn’t forming which is why I had to try visualise it instead. Maybe I just needed more patience. I will try watching some videos of space and see if I can get a better feel for it.
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      I’m thinking of trying the “close my eyes” method of changing location. I worry this may just wake me up but If it can be done it would mean a quick method of changing the location.

      Has anyone has success doing this? Would it be best to shut your eyes and reopen with expectation of a new environment? Or would you shut your dream eyes and wait for a new dream to form in the darkness?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      I’m thinking of trying the “close my eyes” method of changing location. I worry this may just wake me up but If it can be done it would mean a quick method of changing the location.

      Has anyone has success doing this? Would it be best to shut your eyes and reopen with expectation of a new environment? Or would you shut your dream eyes and wait for a new dream to form in the darkness?
      Ooh, yeah that's a tricky one. Whenever I close my dream eyes, I have to "peel" them to get them to reopen. Otherwise, I will open my real life eyes when I mean to open my dream eyes. I've lost lucidity before like that. Good luck!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      Ooh, yeah that's a tricky one. Whenever I close my dream eyes, I have to "peel" them to get them to reopen. Otherwise, I will open my real life eyes when I mean to open my dream eyes. I've lost lucidity before like that. Good luck!!
      I’ve never had much luck closing my eyes in a lucid dream either. It usually wakes me up or blurs my vision but I know it’s possible as I’ve closed and re-opened my eyes in an NLD without issue. I believe it’s a negative expectation issue that can be overcome. Nervous to try though! :-D
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tiktaalik View Post
      I’ve never had much luck closing my eyes in a lucid dream either. It usually wakes me up or blurs my vision but I know it’s possible as I’ve closed and re-opened my eyes in an NLD without issue. I believe it’s a negative expectation issue that can be overcome. Nervous to try though! :-D
      I think so too. It would make for a good practice.
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      I have an idea: walk forward while looking down and watch the ground change to your desired destination. When it appears you're at your desired destination, look up to see where you are.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
      I have an idea: walk forward while looking down and watch the ground change to your desired destination. When it appears you're at your desired destination, look up to see where you are.
      I did actually try this once but didn’t succeed. I believe it could work though and do intend to try again. Has it worked for you in the past?

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      I haven't tested this technique very much in the past, but I recall having some success with this technique, enough where I think it could work. I recall trying this technique to summon a snowy landscape and got a landscape with some slushy snow, although not the crunchy snow I was going for. I also recall using this technique to change the floor and walls of an indoor building.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
      I haven't tested this technique very much in the past, but I recall having some success with this technique, enough where I think it could work. I recall trying this technique to summon a snowy landscape and got a landscape with some slushy snow, although not the crunchy snow I was going for. I also recall using this technique to change the floor and walls of an indoor building.
      I suppose it’s just a variation of the old “look away and back” technique so there’s no reason it shouldn’t. It’s Whatever works best for the individual.
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      Quote Originally Posted by HumbleDreamer View Post
      This is one part of one of the lucid tasks that I did...
      Very cool! There’s so many ways to achieve things. I’ve tried a portal once before and it was a very trippy and surreal experience but didn’t lead me to my desired location sadly. I’ve being meaning to try a doctor strange type portal. Since I’ve seen it in the film I think I should be able to replicate it with practice.
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      Last night I finally changed the location to one of my choosing! As I’ve said before the traditional methods of using doors, portals and expecting it to be around corners have never really worked for me. The closest I’ve got is entering the void and waiting for a new location to form, however when I do this I never get where I desire even though I try visualising and suggesting it. However, when a dream collapses and my vision goes black I can usually still feel the dream with my hands. I’ve used this before to get back into the previous dream by grabbing onto something physical. I wondered if I could use this to create a new location and last night I was able to put my experiment to the test…

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      I jump up and fly toward the mountains in the distance but now see a blurred strip across my vision. I close and reopen my eyes hoping this will wipe it away but instead I end up in darkness. My vision has gone but I remind myself it’s not over yet and I should be patient and remain aware. I reach out blindly with my hands, wondering if I’m back on the ground. “Ah -ha!” I say and find clumps of grass which I grab onto firmly, clinging onto the dream and not letting it go. My vision is still black but I realise this is the perfect opportunity to create a new dream. I decide to try my experiment and see if I can manifest a forest. “Can I hear birds?” I say and listen. Suddenly the sound of bird song fades in all around me. I can now imagine I’m in the forest already but can’t yet see it. I start exploring with my hands along the grass and expect to find a tree root. I feel around and very soon I find one! I follow the root with my hands and find the trunk. I stand up and follow the trunk up and can feel the rough bark on my skin. I still can’t see anything but I stay focused as I rub my hands up and down the tree and try to picture it. Then out of the darkness I can see the rough brown outline of a tree. I keep interacting with it and the image becomes clearer and clearer until there it is, a fully visible and realistic tree trunk! I can’t believe it and inspect the detail on the tree with amazement. I look around and see I’m now in a realistic English woodland full of trees. I’m in awe and can’t believe I created a new location of my choosing and now I’m exploring it!

      It’s a big break through and I hope to experiment further with this method of dream creation and see what else I can do with it. :-)

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      Didn't read the entire thread but tips I use to go where I want are:
      - Spinning and thinking where I want to end up
      - Close my eyes and imagine where I want to end up
      - Say what I want will be behind me and turn around
      - Draw a doorway with finger, chalk etc and use doorway as a portal
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      Moving/Teleport/Changing location Techniques and Detailed experiences

      Please, guys, post all your successful attempts of teleportation, even if done by mistake or not wanted.
      Lets this be a collection of possibilities to travel far from your current location.

      My only experience is teleporting to short distances that are currently my goal of reaching, For example, my sister comes and says let's go to the kitchen and one second after we are there without going. This often happens inside my home that I know well but never happened outside it.

      So I guess if you know the place well you don't even need to visualize it to get there, different is if you want to go to a place that you barely know.

      Pls post your experiences on travels and changing of scenery by adding details so we could have a collection of techniques to try if nothing we actually know works.

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