Progress with WILD while trying to go to bed for the first time

Hey everyone, so I know doing WILD when going to bed for the first time isn't recommended due to how REM sleep works, I believe I read that while it is technically possible it's really not likely to happen. But sometimes I do try it anyway, and while I also know that you don't have to lay still this is something I like to try anyway (isn't the point of Lucid Dreaming believing something works anyways am I right haha). Now sometimes I have the feeling that it is actually working but I then get scared and wake myself up from it. What sometimes happens is that my hands/arms get numb, tingling, which is usually the first thing to happen, after which my mind starts drifting (last time I had this it literally felt as if my mind shifted to the left. I know it sounds crazy though), and I start thinking/picturing stuff I would never think about. For example last time I got this I randomly started picturing myself as a cowboy in the wild west riding a horse. Sometimes I even have a hard time moving.

So now the bottom line is, are these stages that I'm describing actually signs that the WILD would be working (regardless of it being at the beginning of sleep)? And if so, how do I go through it more, do I just keep doing what I'm doing, try to engage more with the images and try to remain calm how hard that might be. Maybe it would have something to do with the fact that I take something like adderall during the day and around 6mg of melatonin every night.

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Originally Posted by danielprime9

Hey everyone, so I know doing WILD when going to bed for the first time isn't recommended due to how REM sleep works, I believe I read that while it is technically possible it's really not likely to happen. But sometimes I do try it anyway, and while I also know that you don't have to lay still this is something I like to try anyway (isn't the point of Lucid Dreaming believing something works anyways am I right haha). Now sometimes I have the feeling that it is actually working but I then get scared and wake myself up from it. What sometimes happens is that my hands/arms get numb, tingling, which is usually the first thing to happen, after which my mind starts drifting (last time I had this it literally felt as if my mind shifted to the left. I know it sounds crazy though), and I start thinking/picturing stuff I would never think about. For example last time I got this I randomly started picturing myself as a cowboy in the wild west riding a horse. Sometimes I even have a hard time moving.

So now the bottom line is, are these stages that I'm describing actually signs that the WILD would be working (regardless of it being at the beginning of sleep)? And if so, how do I go through it more, do I just keep doing what I'm doing, try to engage more with the images and try to remain calm how hard that might be. Maybe it would have something to do with the fact that I take something like adderall during the day and around 6mg of melatonin every night.

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It depends on if you got enough sleep before that. Otherwise, you may be experiencing Hallucinations that have to do with a lack of sleep.

So, it does sound like some of the tell-tale traits are there. Though given the timeframe given like Lang said this sounds like hypnagogia to me as well. It is not uncommon to experience some amount of sleep paralysis and/or vivid seemingly random visualizations in those moments before sleep if one is paying attention to them.

These are 100% the things to focus on in a passive but directive way while attempting to WILD, but in my experience, if my mind isn't fully rested (core rest) then making anything tangible out of these experiences has been difficult for me personally when I attempt WILD at bedtime as opposed to in the morning.

My understanding of the process is that REM is rejuvenative and required for a healthy sleep cycle to occur. Though with irregular sleep patterns, we can become REM deprived and our brain craves to right the deficit. This can come in the form of power naps which are seemingly dream-filled and super powerful hypnagogia in that transition to sleep.

Basically, your mind learns to take advantage of the exact moment your body stops moving in order for it to complete the bare minimum of this cycle that is required for whatever mental or physiological process that needed to take place to keep us functioning and healthy.

You could always just try to follow some of the steps laid out in your favorite WILD guide to ease into a proper transition if that's what you were desiring. Like you said just focus on your breathing and passively engage with whatever visual you're experiencing. If your brain can boot the prompt then there ya go, otherwise, you might have more success after your mind is more rested but able to be alert enough to phase consciously.

Cheers

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