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      Drugs and dreams

      Hello Deamers. I am new here, I have been very interested in conscious dreams for a long time and I have finally started training. There is something I really want to know and maybe can you help me.

      I have a bad habit. I am used for years to smoke weed every night a little before going to bed. It just relaxes me and with time, I became hooked.
      Does weed smoking increases or decreases my chances of experiencing Lucid dreams. Has any of you had lucid dreams after going to bed high?

      Also, are there any drugs that can increase my chances of experiencing lucid dreams? I'm thinking of mushrooms for example. What about sleeping pills, or pills for short sleep spans?

      I'm not here to defend drug use. I know it's wrong and all of you who don't do drugs are right. But that's my situation.

      Thanks in advance.

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      Drugs

      I'll tell you what, I just read today about a legal herb called calea z. The "z" stands for something I can't spell. It was none to Mexican Indians for inducing lucid dreams. Still researching. The said Marijuans does have some similar dream effects, but not really lucidity.
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      I've actually had to cut down my smoking (Mary) before bed because it absolutely Destroys my recall and lucidity. The whole concept of lucid dreaming is that you have to be Aware. You have to have the sharpness of mind to wake up from your subconscious dreaming and actually Notice that you are dreaming. Now, I'm sure you know that while smoking mary, the LAST thing you are is alert. To me, this is no different sleeping than it is awake.
      Bottom line, usually when I smoke before bed, I sleep too soundly to realize when I'm dreaming and, many times, too soundly to even remember what my dreams were when I woke up.

      Benkane is right though, about Calea. The Z stands for Zacatechichi. Of course, it isn't my intention to condone smoking Anything, but I smoke the stuff before bed, so I'm not going to be a hypocrite. It's good stuff. Dreams are not only more vivid, but seem to last much much longer. Hypnogogic imagery before falling asleep is pretty intense, also. You may want to check it out, but, as when trying Any new substance, legal or not, I recommend doing some research on Calea before rushing out and getting some.

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      used to smoke 3-4 joints of BC bud a day, and hardly remembered any dreams. never had a lucid.

      cut back to once or twice on saturday and sunday and started remembering more and more dreams through the week, and having the odd lucid around thursday.

      recently stopped altogether (two weeks ago) and i've had six lucids so far this week. *shrugs* everyone is different. at least give it a shot, and i think you'll be pleasantly suprised.

      and take it from someone who really does love mary jane, and smoked it daily for about three years. lucid dreaming can be ten times as awesome its hard to abstain for a few weeks, especially if you don't see immediate progress, but chances are you'll be glad in the end. even if you only cut back dramatically it should help.
      and getting ripped once or twice a week is so much better anyways. way more intense.

      good luck, whichever route you choose.


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      Re: Drugs and dreams

      Marijuana tends to destroy dream recall for me also, in some cases for several days after. Having said that, I have occasionally had lucid dreams after a night of being quite blazed, so it can occasionally go the other way.

      Mushrooms are very much hit and miss for lucid dreaming. I feel that the best way to use mushrooms for lucid dreaming is to experience the mushrooms and take some time during the trip to think about lucid dreaming and convince yourself that it will happen, almost like self-hypnosis. I do this when tripping alone. One such trip resulted in me doing reality checks for about 4 hours straight every 5-10 minutes, with little effect, whilst another trip lead my mind astray whilst I spoke out loud without concious thought about my desire to induce lucid dreams for only about 60 seconds. I had 4 lucid dreams in 5 nights following the latter experience.

      Originally posted by spar
      I'm not here to defend drug use. I know it's wrong and all of you who don't do drugs are right. But that's my situation.
      No, drugs are not wrong. Drugs are only wrong if you think they're wrong. Me and psilicybon are very compatible both practically and spiritually.

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      thanks a bunch for your answers.
      Ok so no weed for me if I want to be in an aware state as you rightly stated. that's what I thought. It's gonna be hard but that's one more reason for me to cut down.

      "psilicybon": What's this?


      "calea z.": I gotta check that out

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      Originally posted by spar
      "psilicybon": What's this?
      Oh, sorry for not being clear. Psilicybon is the active substance that causes the trip in magic mushrooms.

      I haven't recreationally used any other drug other than magic mushrooms, marijuana and alcahol. Alcahol has had surprisingly positive effects on lucid dreaming for me, although I certainly don't reccomend it as I wouldn't want to become dependant on it. Also, I almost only ever drink a substancial amount of alcohol when I stay with my parents some weekends, so the change of setting could be responsible for the lucid dreams as opposed to, or in addition to, the alcohol.

      Anyways, I should be getting some Salvia divinorum soon and a friend of mine is getting me some DMT too, both of which I shall also be trying. I'll be sure to let you know if I see any opportunities or potential positive effects from these substances that may help with vividness of dreams or becoming lucid in the short or long term.

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      Originally posted by MartinB

      Anyways, I should be getting some Salvia divinorum soon and a friend of mine is getting me some DMT too, both of which I shall also be trying. I'll be sure to let you know if I see any opportunities or potential positive effects from these substances that may help with vividness of dreams or becoming lucid in the short or long term.
      augh, you're getting DMT? lucky bastard i've been looking for years. if you happen to remember, PM me and give me a quick overview of the experience...


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      several many whiles ago, my freinds and i liked to do dxm (dextromethorphan hydrobromide) and 3 out of 4 of us had OBE's on more than one ocasion..... i always found pot didnt do anything for my dreams cuz i never remembered them, but a drug like shrooms..... whoa.... the first time i did them i actually fell asleep (this isnt normal) and i had the craziest dreams, like i can still remember them and that woulda been years ago. definitely interesting.... there are many vitamins and more natural ways to help your dreams. heres a web site http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/drea...herb-p-100.html for calea zacatechichi (dream herb). i was thinking about trying some out


      on a related topic...drug use is not for everyone, and you should always know your limits, and do them in a comftorable surrounding. having a bad trip and seeing people have a bad trip is not a pleasent experience. It is my experience however drugs are an amazing mind opening experience.

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      Originally posted by Asher


      augh, you're getting DMT? lucky bastard i've been looking for years. if you happen to remember, PM me and give me a quick overview of the experience...
      Well, it's not definite yet. A friend who I haven't known for long, but seems pretty reliable, told me that his sister can get hold of it. He was quite surprised at my eagerness for it when he told me this as he didn't even know what DMT was.

      I almost always write a detailed trip report after a new experience, and I expect that DMT will be no different in this regard, so I'll link you to it if I do try it.

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      Didn't anybody listen to Nancy Reagan?!?! Oh god, think of the children, wont someone please think of the children?!


      I wish I could get my hands on some shrooms or acid.... , but I have little money as it is...

      ohh... acid? How has that affected lucid dreaming, anyone?

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      I have never met anyone that can sleep while doing Acid. Pretty much shouldn't make any plans for 8-10 hours afterwards. So, not really the ideal Lucid Dreaming drug.
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      Originally posted by carlhungis


      I have never met anyone that can sleep while doing Acid. *Pretty much shouldn't make any plans for 8-10 hours afterwards. *So, not really the ideal Lucid Dreaming drug.
      what about after effects on dreams? I've read that there is a lasting effect to acid... I've never experimented with heavier drugs, but I am increasingly curious

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      Last time I did acid, I laid in my bed for hours. I had so many visuals that I couldnt sleep. Eventually I just passed out/blacked out and woke up the next morning still feeling it. As for weed (daily user), I am able to have LDs but I would agree that my recall has decreased.

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      over the course of one week i did a lot of tab, 2 hits one night and 4 the next and 8.5 the next. it wasnt the best stuff i ever had so 8.5 was prolly closer to 5-6, or maybe the tolerance was way up, but anyway i ended up asleep, and i cant remember anything. i passed out on the couch and woke up the next morning and hurt like a.. well you get the idea.... as for dreams and acid, dont take much and you might have a sweet dream, but usually, acid is for the crazy waking trips. however allegedly opium is supposed to have crazy effects on dreams, never tried it never found it. anyone with experience?

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