I think that we go other places in dreams because we are bored of our mundane life and wish for adventure and fun... |
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Has anyone ever wondered where we go when we dream? I mean do we just stay lying in our beds, or is there something a little more to the issue of dreaming? Take sleepwalking for example, what drives us to do these things, surely our spirit must be somewhere else. |
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I think that we go other places in dreams because we are bored of our mundane life and wish for adventure and fun... |
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...but all those places, incredible as they may be, are only the fruit of our own imagination... |
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Our subconscious vibrates to the astral plane, your physical body is paralyzed |
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No, actually we're just lying in our beds. Nothing more. No spirits vibrating in the astral planes, no souls wandering about. Dreams are actually pretty well documented. We're still working out why we have dreams, but we've got some solid theories on that, too. |
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[23:17:23] <+Kaniaz> "You think I want to look like Leo Volont? Don't you dare"
Exactly the way I see it: |
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Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
Astrals and OBEs are, in my opinion, just types of dreams. As such, I don't believe they happen anywhere other than in our own heads. There's no other plane, and we can't travel outside our bodies... in my opinion, the idea is a bit ludicrous. I've had experiences similar to those described by SKA, and I believe them to be nothing more than just dreams and/or hallucinations. |
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SKA is right... its yust a door to your own virtual world. |
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...there is accualy more IN life that onley life...
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Maybe one day science will find out that there are spirits living in our world and we just don't see them. |
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Natural LDer who can't say her level of lucid ability
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[23:17:23] <+Kaniaz> "You think I want to look like Leo Volont? Don't you dare"
I wonder the same thing, I think that we probably stay in our beds, go nowhere but what our imagination creates for us. People who say they're experienced shared dreaming and stuff kinda makes me wonder though. |
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This is an interesting thread. I haven't been here that long, but it seems to me that there are two basic distinct schools of thought amongst the posters here, namely those who think that LD is all in the head, and those that aren't so sure. |
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I believe, at least theoretically, in the existence of spirits, but not necessarily ghost-like spirits. I have a theory on my own (unfortunately it's very subjective) that saids we humans are like some sord of projection... Imagine some guys with laser pointers, which have different heads (let's say one of them projects the form of a chair, another one the form of a man, other is a table and so on). When all the guys project on a wall, in the same time, in a certain configuration, all their lasers, it may appear on the wall the image or picture of a man standing in his room, on his chair, at his table, drinking from a cup. But what if they decide to turn on and off their laser with an preestablished latency? Meaning that on the wall the image will appear and disappear every 3 seconds. Imagine that the man in the scheme will have for a moment some kind of conscious reflection, what would he think about the reality of his enviroment? He exists in the same time with his surroundings, so he'll consider himslef and them real, without knowing that that reality is in fact made up of laser beams that stop at every 3 seconds. Now imagine that being our reality... |
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You know, there is an Aboriginal (native Aussie) belief that when you are dreaming, your spirit goes off to a special world where other spirits go when they are dreaming, and if you wake without your spirit, you die! |
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There's a lot of belief-snubbing going on in here... I don't see why the scientists have to come on to an obviously spiritually-based topic and then destroy what these people believe in! No offence to you, but you don't like spiritual people doing it to your scientific posts either... <3! |
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Ahem. I'm sorry if my post seemed a bit against spiritual religal stuff, I meant as in most of us would consider that a made-up theory. |
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First WILD on 6th of August, 2006!
I don't think OBEs happen in the physical plane.. but I don't discount the possibility that the dreamscape is a real place. |
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Oneiro: maybe it seems that I would belong to the other group of people believing that we do not LD in our heads/beds. |
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Natural LDer who can't say her level of lucid ability
It could be possible that when you leave the body, your soul or spirit remains linked to it, so that your brain is still reacting to the input you recieve on these different planes of existence. Otherwise you'd be getting possessed all the time with other spirits wandering around, and with yourself wandering aimlessly with no link to your body. |
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Well it seems to me that theres a lot of things called theories going on and no hard core evidence. A lot of scientific people on here say theorie this and theorie that. If your trying to be scientific have a hard core fact then a theorie or its just speculation with little evidence or big evidence its still just a theorie menaing your just as spectical as someone beliveing in that we do go to another realm. |
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Im not afraid of the dark, its whats in it.
*the lights turn off and the whole room goes dark*
Oh im fin- Ahhhhhhhh its a scary figment of my imagination.
From our concious perception, we are somewhere else. |
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Lol i truely think we do go somewhere else because i had a shared dream with my friend when i was eleven...strangley enough he said he was pracxtising astral projection...the cheek. |
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Im not afraid of the dark, its whats in it.
*the lights turn off and the whole room goes dark*
Oh im fin- Ahhhhhhhh its a scary figment of my imagination.
Stoat, what do you mean 'most of us'? |
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No,no,no, I meant believe in the aboriginal theory, not astral projection. I actually believe in that too! |
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First WILD on 6th of August, 2006!
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