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Lucid Dream related movies? If so I wanted to hear anyone's thoughts on the movie Vanilla Sky. Also wanted to ask if anyone has seen the movie Waking Life and if so if it is worth seeing. Also if anyone knows of any other movies about or pertaining to Lucid Dreaming.

In reference to Vanilla Sky I am a bit confused about the ending. He payed for a lucid dream while in chrogeneic freezing however he was not in a lucid dream till the very end because he didn't realize he was dreaming till then. Now the way I understood it was that there was a glitch that kept him from realizing he was dreaming. Is that what it was? Or did the writers just not understand the concept of lucid dreaming?

At any rate if somone else has posted about this which is likely the case let me know where.
Thanks.

I would definately reccommend that you watch Waking Life, it's a brilliant movie :goodjob:. As for the vanilla sky thing, I think the writers made a mistake, I can't remember any mention of a glitch.

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Originally Posted by Jogah

In reference to Vanilla Sky I am a bit confused about the ending. He payed for a lucid dream while in chrogeneic freezing however he was not in a lucid dream till the very end because he didn't realize he was dreaming till then. Now the way I understood it was that there was a glitch that kept him from realizing he was dreaming. Is that what it was? Or did the writers just not understand the concept of lucid dreaming?
Thanks.
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Yeah, I was confused.
The Lucid Dreaming concept as they have it there is not really related to the Lucid Dreaming "concept" we have in real life. There, Lucid Dreaming was continueing to life after you died, frozen in, in a dream.
Yes, indeed. He did not know he was dreaming. There was indeed a glitch. All that happened from the moment he slept on the street was bullshit. He never murdered anyone. It was all the dream. He died that night on that street. In the end, he decided to go for a real life and not the lucid dream life, where he could live as a God practically. Hope I helped.

Yeah, that makes sense. It's too bad it could have been a good movie. I breifly watched some commentary on the movie and the writer apparently got the idea for his movie from a spanish film called Abre los Ojos(open your eyes), which is the only real explanation for why you heard that several times throughout the movie. Perhaps that movie would be worth checking out adhere more to the concept of lucid dreaming. I look forward to watching Waking Life however. I'll try and rent it tomorrow. As such I'll probably have some questions about that movie as well.

Are there any other good lucid dream movies out there?

Well, "What The Bleep Do We Know". It's not really a lucid dreaming movie, but it is somewhat related.

Skip "what the bleep do we know" completely. It is a bunch of pseudoscience which tries to play itself off as real science, and in the end it's a big pr piece for a cultish "school" which exists to make money. For example, there's a piece where a "scientist" writes words like "love" on a water bottle, then freezes it and takes pictures of the ice crystals that form. Supposedly words like love and peace lead to beautiful crystals, words like hate and war lead to disordered crystals. The thing is, if you freeze an amount of water and examine its crystal structure, you'll find ordered areas and disordered areas. The "scientists" who ran these experiments were free to choose the crystals they felt like photographing, so they simply avoided the disordered crystals in the peace/love water and avoided the ordered crystals in the hate/war water. A bunch of misleading crap.

I am particularly frustrated with movies like this because they takegreat ideas, like the idea that positive thinking leads to peaceful living, and try to find scientific evidence that does not exist for it. Why not simply talk about experience? There is plenty to support these notions without looking for evidence that does not exist, and focusing on made-up evidence holds people back from moving forward spiritually.

I do not search for logic in spiritual matters; I simply look for honesty.

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Skip "what the bleep do we know" completely. It is a bunch of pseudoscience which tries to play itself off as real science, and in the end it's a big pr piece for a cultish "school" which exists to make money. For example, there's a piece where a "scientist" writes words like "love" on a water bottle, then freezes it and takes pictures of the ice crystals that form. Supposedly words like love and peace lead to beautiful crystals, words like hate and war lead to disordered crystals. The thing is, if you freeze an amount of water and examine its crystal structure, you'll find ordered areas and disordered areas. The "scientists" who ran these experiments were free to choose the crystals they felt like photographing, so they simply avoided the disordered crystals in the peace/love water and avoided the ordered crystals in the hate/war water. A bunch of misleading crap.

I am particularly frustrated with movies like this because they takegreat ideas, like the idea that positive thinking leads to peaceful living, and try to find scientific evidence that does not exist for it. Why not simply talk about experience? There is plenty to support these notions without looking for evidence that does not exist, and focusing on made-up evidence holds people back from moving forward spiritually.

I do not search for logic in spiritual matters; I simply look for honesty.
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I kind of agree with you, except for the "Skip it" part. It is some what of a mind-broadening movie, regardless of believing it or not.