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I keep reading about people saying that your brain trys to stop you having lucid dreams by distracting you or making up reasons for obviously unreal stuff to be normal... what dose that mean... your brain hates you being lucid so that it trys to stop u every way it can? how dose this work?... please explain lol
sorry if this doesn’t make sense or is wrong
I have talked regarding the Higher Dream Mind so often that it has been referred to, and as you can see from below, I have been asked to address the subject specifically...
Your friend meant that I talk about the Higher Dream Mind all the time, though I do not believe that I ever wrote a specific essay with the Higher Dream Mind as the focal topic.Quote:
Salutations!
A freind reccomended that I read your topic on the higher dream mind but due to your numerous posts I have being unable to locate it.
Could you please send me a link or a PM detailing the subject.
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But now that you've put me on the spot about it... I speak of the Higher Dream Mind as the Goal Oriented and Objective Driven Intelligence behind our dreams. So many people suppose that dreams are entirely arbitrary and accidental. But I have always seen design and purpose behind dreams. This is the Higher Dream Mind. Also, Lucid Dreamers often find that their 'Control' and even their Lucidity is obstructed and frustrated, or in some cases we may even find help are assistance we did not have to ask for. This is also an indication of a Higher Dream Mind.
We can also infer the Higher Dream Mind when we consider our Reoccurring Dreams and the various Dream Motifs. There seems to be an intelligent design in the way these Dreams are presented.
A correllary to my thinking on the Higher Dream Mind is my attitude toward Collective Consciousness. People do not dream uniquely. So many Dream Motifs are common to everybody. So many of the same rules apply to everybody. It would seem that it is not the case where everybody has their own Higher Dream Mind, but that One Higher Dream Mind is serving us all. The Higher Dream Mind is a function of the Collective Consciousness.
Good question.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabenman
Obviously you and your Higher Dream Mind are working at cross purposes.
The assumption of everybody who preaches any Lucid Dreaming Technique is that with the proper technique the Higher Dream Mind can be humiliated and defeated -- that the Individual is ultimately stronger than the Higher Dream Mind. But I don't think so. I think that in any conflict between the Individual and the Higher Dream Mind, that the Higher Dream Mind will win the Day... or rather, the 'night'.
So you need to ask yourself what your objectives and goals have been with your Lucid Dreaming Campaign. Something there is wrong. Now, ordinarily I would expect that the Higher Dream Mind would communicate its objections in the content of Ordinary Dreaming, but so often those interested in Lucid Dreaming entirely ignore the content of their ordinary dreams, not caring to bother to examine them for any significant meaning or messages. But we need to remember that Lucid Dreaming is not to be taken in isolation but it is just a subdivision of Dreaming in its Entirety. All of Dreaming is One Great Process. Lucid Dreaming builds on our Ordinary Dreams, and our Ordinary Dreams will give us clues and messages regarding our Lucid Dreams.
In certain extreme cases our Higher Dream Mind may see the Lucid Dreamer's emphasis on Dream Control as being a direct attack on the ordinary processes and priorities of Ordinary Dreaming. Indeed, for many Lucid Dreamers it actually is their objective to replace the Collective Consciousness with a totally individualized determination of everything that occurs during their Dreaming -- Total Control would be the Victory of the Individual over the Collective Consciousness. In such a case, the Higher Dream Mind would see the Individual as an Enemy.
Now, perhaps some individuals have actually succeeded in defeating the Higher Dream Mind, but they could have done so only by completely cutting themselves off from the Collective Consciousness and their psychic connection with all other souls and with Life in general. Only by isolation and separation can the individual finally cut off the influences of the Higher Dream Mind. I would see that as too high a price to pay for whatever benefits there are in have unobstructed control of one's dreams. And then, once all outside and higher influences have been driven out of our Dreaming, where can anything new or surprising, or even interesting, where can anything of value come from?
So we need to find out how we can go in the same direction as our Dream Higher Mind. The clue here is to think in terms of Collective Consciousness. The Higher Dream Mind is working for the Collective. The Higher Dream Mind is Social, not individual. So our Dreaming goals need to be directed toward collective and social concerns. And this moves us toward Religion and Spirituality. Now, Religion and Spirituality do not need to be as boring as it sounds. Look at it this way -- the Binding Force of Society and Collectivism is Love -- love as a Unifying Force. Now, often young people think of Love in terms of sexual attraction. Well, that is as far as young people can think. Anybody who has been in love, that way of sexual passion, thinks that that is powerful... even overwhelming. Actually not... not in relative terms. The greatest love is that of a parent, particularly of a Mother, for a child. That Binding Force between Mother and Child is the way we can understand Love as the essential binding force of Society and of all Collective Consciousness. Underneath all the Bullshit, this is what Religion and Spirituality is really talking about.
Societies that have gotten in tune with this Love-Force and have established Institutions to maintain and perpetuate this Love and communalism that fosters collectivity -- well, these are Civilizations. But herds of warring individuals who prey on each other and live by predatory attacks on civilizations, these are Barbarians.
How does this relate to lucid dreaming? Well, we can be in resonance with the Dream Higher Mind if we are using Lucidity in order to become more Civilized and less Barbarian. So we should be using our Dreams to find the best Civilized Dream Characters, and to further our Cooperation with these best of all Dream Characters.
But to do so, we muct develop some sense of discernment... we must be able to distinguish between those Characters who are Civilized and those who are Barbarian. It is not always easy. Barbarians can be very likable. Who doesn't love a Rebel? Self Made Men. Rugged Individuals. But they are the Bandits and Predators and Exploiters -- the destroyers of Civilization.
So there is indeed a great deal of Dream Work which must be done to get to where we need to go... if we are to be in agreement and accordance with our Higher Dream Mind.
....WOW That is the most reading ive done since the main site lol and the qwickest reply eva.... thanx for that I kinda of made sence out of it... lol I'm not the qwickest person around but yer so I have to try work with it ay... my luck it will never happen but ill try anyway... lol
I wish I could talk to this "higher dream mind" thing ay would be good... I'd nagg and complain till it let me lucid all the time lol
thanx again for the reply :D
I saw the topic title and I was like... dude. Like you would get years of psychology lessons out of one post :P