How Does One Get Rid Of Lucid Dreams - Newbie

I dunno...I don't claim to know everything about LDing, but I would tend to agree with Oneironaut here. LDs you are aware you are dreaming, so subsequently anything that happens would be under the pretense that you know it's fake. I think that's why it's easier to remember LDs, because you're conscious and it can go to memory better than non-lucids can.

But when vivid non-LDs happen, then you might get confused. I know that happens to me sometime, but I've never had problems with confusing LDs for real life, because you're conscious at both times. Therefore it's kind of like having a memory when it's over, but it's a memory of for-sure dreaming.

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Originally Posted by JaphyR

I have tried to convince DC's that it's a dream, but I've never tried to convince them that they were not real. They usually agree pretty quickly that it's a dream. [/b]

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I recently got into an argument with one of my dream characters about whether or not I was dreaming. She insisted that she really existed, so I started firing questions at her really fast. She ended up saying some complete nonsense, and I pointed at her and started talking trash about how she was busted. She playfully smiled and looked embarrassed, apparently suggesting she admitted that she did not exist.

Follower: "Someone said that long-term lucid dreamers often have such a trouble. It is not true."

No, I didn't say that. I said that the problem is not unknown amongst long-timers. "Your problem is not common" I said.


Edit: Rereading what I wrote, I can see how the confusion arose. I wrote: "It happens often enough to long-timers.." but in no way did I mean to imply that it was a common occurrence. I just used a figure of speech to describe the fact that in my experience, I have now encountered 6 people who have had the same problem, 4 of whom are what I would call long-timers: over 20 years of LD experience. I apologise for any confusion.

Hi,
I also asked my dream characters if they knew that it was a dream and many of them didn't agree. I tryed proving them by floating, or doing something like that but they just made up some silly excuses.

If you don't find another way to stop confusing reality with dreams then do things that you couldn't do in reality, like flying or anything like that. Try making your dream as unreal as possible.
That's all I could think of that could help.

((Follower, I don't know anything about REM or other stages of sleep, but do you really think that supressing it is a good idea? It just doesn't seem like one, since REM sleep is something people and some animals naturally have. I don't know why we would have a REM stage, if we could live wihout it, but I don't know alot anyway.))

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Originally Posted by melindak

I'm sorry I'm coming off as not believable and if this is the case that I'm not making sense then that implys to me that no one has shared these same problems as i and that maybe this is not the best place to get answers.
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Most likely you will not get a sastisfactory awnser from a non-doctor person. and i personally have no clue how the mind works in conjunction with lucid dreams. most likely your sleep doctor will be able to give you the awnser you are seeking.


Good luck,
Volcon :yumdumdoodledum:

ok, I planned on trying to do what yall suggested but get this, as soon as I was asleep I didn't remember what I was suppose to do. I had lucid dreams but I had no recall of my plans for making my dreams less realistic and went right back into the same old routine. Sooooo I'm not sure how to remember my plans for the dream once I'm in the dream??

Try thinking of it all time, but scale down your plans. If you make too big and complex plans, your recall will mix up.

I admit I only briefly scanned over the topic, so I apologize if this has been suggested.

I am not sure if this is good advice, but if you are having trouble discerning reality from dream, perhaps you could keep a dream journal (if you aren’t already). By writing down the main events that transpire in the dream, you may be able to remember better which is real and unreal.

I wouldn’t try to give up remembering. Sometimes remembering a dream can be beneficial and inspiring. If you are truly lucid, I imagine that you can work the dreams to be extremely helpful, so long you can identify which parts of your life are dreams.

If you want to just “turn it off” for a period, I would agree with an earlier poster who indicated you should just try to “let go” and go with the flow.

Have you ever thought that you may have a sleep dissorder? I have narcolepsy and cataplexy. I sleep very lightly at night so remember a lot of my dreams I also have hallucinations because I start dreaming within a couple of minutes of closing my eyes sometimes and I do often have to question whether it was a dream or has it really happened. It might be worth looking in too. The reason you would be feeling foggy in the day is beacause you are not sleeping properly at night. Sleep is so important especially when it comes to keepig your sanity.

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Originally Posted by melindak

I'm sorry I'm coming off as not believable and if this is the case that I'm not making sense then that implys to me that no one has shared these same problems as i and that maybe this is not the best place to get answers. When I say I remember my dreams it means that when I awake I can account for what I dreamed that night. It doesn't mean that a week later I still remember them all. some dreams I do remember forever it seems and others I forget after about 30 minutes of waking up. Im my dreams I can control my actions as well as actions of the dreams so if that's not lucid dreaming then maybe I'm calling it the wrong thing. In my dreams I know they are dreams but not until something odd happends that doesn't happen in real life. So in other words my dream may be normal for a while and I do not know I'm dreaming at that time. When something unnormal happends, it triggers me to knowing that it's a dream and from then on during the rest of the dream, I know I'm dreaming and I "have fun" with it. What happends during the day is I'll ask a friend how her divorce is going (this is just a for instance) and she'll say "what divorce?" Then I reply "I'm sorry I must have dreamed you were getting divorced" then I start feeling really bad and like I'm going nutts because my friend getting a divorce was so real to me in the dream that I thought it really did take place. Sure I could solve this problem if when I awoke I wrote down everything I dreamed about so I would remember what was fiction but that would be a hassel in itself. I just want to learn to dream like normal people "I think." Granted being able to control your dreams is ALOT of fun but this daytime fog I'm in is only getting worse. Oh and I'm not sure if the dejavu is a result of the dreams or not but I wish they would go away completely!

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you did misunderstand me...what I said was trying to "trick" me. I still know that I am dreaming but the characters try to convince me otherwise and fail to do so. I guess where I'm sort of loosing my lucidity is when the dreams are in real time and real life things happend. I'm ok with loosing the lucidity BUT I still remember the dreams in the back of my head and days or weeks later I forget whether it was a dream or real. Seriously yall, I'm not making this up and if sounds to hard to believe then please stop trying to "prove" that I am wrong. I'm only here for advice. I'm not here to say "I'm right and you are wrong" so with that being said, if I am in the wrong place please just say so. I am however grateful for the advice that was given. I'm not someone who is toying with yall because I have nothing better to do. Like I said before, I have an appointment with a sleep specialist on Monday but I just wanted some insight on the problem I have and whether anyone else had the same types of problems with their dreams.
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Ok, sorry bout the misunderstanding. (I wasn't trying to prove you wrong, only understand what you were trying to say.) The problem was that you said "lucid dreams" when you were talking about "controlled dreams." They are very different, but many people make the mistake of confusing them. No harm done.
Just to clarify, a lucid dream is simply a dream in which you know you are dreaming. Nothing more. So, in your case, your lucidity was helping you, becuase it was those times that you were lucid, that you weren't having trouble with confusing them with reality. And yes, most times, when many of us talk to our DC's, they try to convince us that the dream, even when you know it is a dream, is reality. This is very common.
Keeping a journal is probably the best thing for you to do (I'm sure this was probably covered. I haven't had a chance to go through all of the replies, yet). I haven't had too many problems with mixing real and dream memories, while awake, but I think it's mostly because my dreams are usually so out there. But, still, I have enough "normal" dreams that I think I can credit most of my recognition of memories, from times I knew were only dreams, to keeping a journal and being aware of each of the dreams I had the night before writing my journal entry. Give it a try, if you haven't already.