Experiment! Participants Needed.

**Don Juan** · 11-29-2006 12:19 AM

I have wondered if there might be a corelation between biorythms and lucid dreaming patterns.

The theory of biorythms is based on the creation and discharge of energy by living things and is a fundamental concept of biological theory. In the early 20th century three human energy cycles were observed that last 23, 28, and 33 days. The Physical cycle has a length of 23 days, its peak day is the 6th day of the cycle, the trough day is the 17th of the cycle, and the critical days are the 11th, and the 23rd day of the cycle. (More on peak, trough and critical days in a moment). The physical cycle affects a range of physical factors such as fitness, coordination, speed, adaptability, resistance to disease, healing, and basic body funtion.

The Emotional cycle has a length of 28 days with the peak falling on the 7th, the trough on the 21st, and critical days on the 14th and 28th. (Do not confuse cycle days with days of the month, as they are days into the cycle and do not fall on a specific date.) The emotional cycle affects perceptions, attitudes, prejudices, sensitivity, moods and general mental health.

The Intellectual cycle has a length of 33 days with the peak falling on the 8th cycle day, the trough on the 24th cycle day, and critical days falling on the 16th and 33rd. The Intellectual cycle affects abilities such as memory, alertness, learning, formation of ideas, and also analytical functions of the mind.

These cycles can be plotted on a graph (which I have provided a great link that I found today) as a sine curve. These waves represent the energy that is available for a given timeperiod and is calculated from your birthdate where it has been assumed that these cycles start at a single point.

A positive period is where the curve is above the baseline with the peak being the top of the curve. Conversely the trough or negative period will be the opposite, however it is when these waves cross the baseline in either direction that we are said to be at our most critical or vulnerable period in the given area.

The link that I had has been replaced with this new one courtesy of Chatter-Box. He found a much better one that will allow you to pick any report date that you wish to see! Excellent link!
http://mindbluff.com/bior.htm

**Chatter-Box** · 11-29-2006 03:43 AM

Sounds cool and I am willing to do it, only one problem.

The java doesn't load. I just installed Java and have verified the installation.

I found a page that I assume does the same thing based on what it looks like.

Here is the link:
http://mindbluff.com/bior.htm

Here is a chart I made with excel. I charted the dates I had lucids and see no relation so far. I put negative numbers with a red background and positive with green, to make it easier to see the difference.
Click Here for My Chart!

The only thing I noticed is with more positives came longer LDs

**Don Juan** · 11-29-2006 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by Chatter

Sounds cool and I am willing to do it, only one problem.

The java doesn't load. I just installed Java and have verified the installation.

I found a page that I assume does the same thing based on what it looks like.

Here is the link:
http://mindbluff.com/bior.htm

Here is a chart I made with excel. I charted the dates I had lucids and see no relation so far. I put negative numbers with a red background and positive with green, to make it easier to see the difference.
Click Here for My Chart!
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I am confused that the link didn't work for you. I just checked it out and it loaded fine for me. But I'm glad that it didn't work for you because the graph that you found is a much better tool than the link that I provided anyway!

Good job! I have never heard of the Intuitional phase but more information can only help. As far as looking for corelations, it may be only a subtle trend. This is not looking for a smoking gun surefire time to try LD, rather to see if there may be a trend when certain factors line up just so. For example it may be that when both the emotional and intellectual phases are in a peak there may be a higher trend of LD. (Just using this as an example as it could be any combination of peaks or troughs or critical days for that matter.) Do you see what I am getting at? It will take recording a string of data over a longer period of time to help us substantiate if we can. We probably can LD at any given time but I am looking for several things. Quality, frequency, duration of, that sort of thing.

Thanks for finding that link! Do you mind if I include that in my original post?

**Chatter-Box** · 11-29-2006 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Don

Thanks for finding that link! Do you mind if I include that in my original post?
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No problem, and sure go ahead!

It was fun looking at the graph so I think I might keep up with it and continue updating my chart as I have LDs.

*crosses fingers for LD tonight 'cause it had been a while*

-Good Night!

**Don Juan** · 11-29-2006 05:02 PM

Thanks again for the link!

I have noticed something that at this point is inconclusive but interesting. Over the last few days I had noticed a difficulty of dream recall. Now I have felt a pattern for some time with my dreams but had never thought to record or look for a trend. I have periods of very intense long lasting dreams and then I have periods where dream recall is difficult. I have been having difficulty these last few days. When I loaded my chart for today I had noticed that my emotional and intellectual curves have been at the very lowest point and that they were very close together. Yesterday and today however the curves are making an upswing out of the trough. Could be coincidence but last night I had multiple dreams that were easy to remember the details of. Maybe the change of direction towards the positive is helping.

It is also interesting that you have noted longer lasting periods of LD during more "positives".

I am on vacation this week so that is why I am typing fairly early.

Hopefully others here will join in. It is easy to use and could be helpfull for us to try and find a natural relationship between Lucid dreaming and biorythmic activity.

**Don Juan** · 11-29-2006 05:30 PM

O.K. Something else I noticed. My last lucid dream was on the 21st of November. When I charted this my emotional and intellectual curves had just dropped below the baseline the day previous. (critical peiod) And my intuitional curve was making an upswing through the baseline into the positive. Hmm.

**Meidi** · 11-29-2006 05:44 PM

Interesting! I'm at an emotional peak and I spent most of the night crying and being over-emotional.

**Chatter-Box** · 11-30-2006 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by Don

It is also interesting that you have noted longer lasting periods of LD during more "positives".[/b]

I had a LD last night in a 3 positive phase! I was expecting a long one but it was actually 2 short ones(I guess at some point the dream phase ended and I lost ludicity then got it again in second dream). I will post it in my dream journal soon if you would like to read it, not too long.

Originally Posted by Don

Interesting! I'm at an emotional peak and I spent most of the night crying and being over-emotional.
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That is interesting! Hope you are better now

**Don Juan** · 12-02-2006 04:21 PM

Hi Meidi!

Give us a hand!

O.K. I had a vivid LD this morning with lots of control using the banana technique of all things!
Anyway looking at my biorythm chart for today my emotional curve is passing through the baseline to the positive and my physical and intuitional curves are at their peak and riding the same wave.

I am seeing interesting things when these curves are traveling through the baseline or critical days.

Look forward to more input!

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