Wild's And Fear

For the past few days, I've been trying to lucid dream. I haven't had any problem with dream recall for the past few years, and I can usually remember exact conversations, or images from the dream. The problem is me accepting the dream signs as reality, so I figure a WILD would be my best bet.

The problem is, I'm initially fearful. Something about hallucinations and intense vibrations makes me nervous. Deep down I know that nothing bad would happen, but at the same time, I wouldn't want to experience things that were frightening or just plain disturbing.

I guess hearing "it's not that bad" would be helpful, but more importantly, what is it like? I've read a bunch of the WILD posts, and they mostly talk about swirling colors and mild vibrations. I've heard about sounds too (this would probably scare me the most.) Is it very overwhelming, or is it a gentle slope into dreaming? If I was just lying in bed and suddenly I'm shaking, seeing things, and hearing loud noises, I'm probably going to pee myself and stay awake for a few days.

I tried WILDing once and failed. Because you know you're trying to WILD, you will know that anything weird that happens is just part of the process. You can easily stop the procces and simply come back to reality. When I did it, I was over excited that it was working, not scared, that I failed.

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I guess hearing "it's not that bad" would be helpful, but more importantly, what is it like? I've read a bunch of the WILD posts, and they mostly talk about swirling colors and mild vibrations. I've heard about sounds too (this would probably scare me the most.) Is it very overwhelming, or is it a gentle slope into dreaming? If I was just lying in bed and suddenly I'm shaking, seeing things, and hearing loud noises, I'm probably going to pee myself and stay awake for a few days.[/b]

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well for me it isnt that bad. i dont shake either i just feel like im shaking. and all those noises arent scary man its just the sound of your dream.

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emoticons ae jus so cool!

The sounds are not scary at all, just enough to suprise you, they are very difficult to describe, do not get scared it's useless it's just your natural human instinct that you might get hurt, but I can promise you won't.

the sound is like a huge loud train going by your house with electrical sounds mixed in, not really what I'd find disturbing

oh and if you decide to back out you might have to shake yourself out of paralysis, I did that this morning, so consider it if you choose to back out :P

wilding takes much more effort then courage.

It's not that bad.

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Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

the sound is like a huge loud train going by your house with electrical sounds mixed in, not really what I'd find disturbing

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Haha I had no way of describing the sounds untill i read that. Thanks.

I only get that sound and the vibrations as I enter Sleep Paralasis <--(Spelling?) though, and only for a few seconds. The vibrations are like having your eyes move very fast under your eyelids, and something else going on with your body, and your head has a nice shaky feeling. I find it kind of nice, like a really good body buzz.

The HI is gentle and the sounds are gentle too, especailly after you are already in SP.

Oh... and it&#39;s not that bad. At all.

I never had a complete WILD before switching to FILD. But at the time where I was trying to WILD, I came to the part with the sounds (exactly like that description). And after that I could hear some guy talking. It was like listing to the radio.
I never knew I had a FM tuner inside my head.

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Originally Posted by Neville

I never had a complete WILD before switching to FILD. But at the time where I was trying to WILD, I came to the part with the sounds (exactly like that description). And after that I could hear some guy talking. It was like listing to the radio.
I never knew I had a FM tuner inside my head.
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a similer thing happened to me with music, I could hear the song playing in my head, that might be a good way to trance myself into wild, I could always get a song stuck in my head well I&#39;m visualizing I&#39;m sure that would distract me from my physical body long enough.

It kind of makes you wonder if humans can pick up radio waves, because I&#39;ve heard similer experiences as well.

Some of the things I&#39;ve felt during WILD

It does take time to get used to - but after a while, is gets really fun :wink: Even the once "disturbing" feelings become more of a thrill ride.

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Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

a similer thing happened to me with music, I could hear the song playing in my head, that might be a good way to trance myself into wild, I could always get a song stuck in my head well I&#39;m visualizing I&#39;m sure that would distract me from my physical body long enough.

It kind of makes you wonder if humans can pick up radio waves, because I&#39;ve heard similer experiences as well.
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Yeah, I can get a beat stuck in my head to, but if I listen to it I&#39;d lose my concentration.

And about the radio waves, we can pick up visible light with the eyes, which is also part of the electromagnetic spectrum. So what if.

You have to compare the fear with a nightmare/dream, you must think about the fact that it ain&#39;t real (you go through it every single night, unconscious)

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Originally Posted by EvanWilson

For the past few days, I&#39;ve been trying to lucid dream. I haven&#39;t had any problem with dream recall for the past few years, and I can usually remember exact conversations, or images from the dream. The problem is me accepting the dream signs as reality, so I figure a WILD would be my best bet.

The problem is, I&#39;m initially fearful. Something about hallucinations and intense vibrations makes me nervous. Deep down I know that nothing bad would happen, but at the same time, I wouldn&#39;t want to experience things that were frightening or just plain disturbing.

I guess hearing "it&#39;s not that bad" would be helpful, but more importantly, what is it like? I&#39;ve read a bunch of the WILD posts, and they mostly talk about swirling colors and mild vibrations. I&#39;ve heard about sounds too (this would probably scare me the most.) Is it very overwhelming, or is it a gentle slope into dreaming? If I was just lying in bed and suddenly I&#39;m shaking, seeing things, and hearing loud noises, I&#39;m probably going to pee myself and stay awake for a few days.
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Hi Evan..

Firstly, I appreciate your honesty. Many people don&#39;t admit they get scared when initially attempting LD.

So.. how to overcome your fear? It&#39;s a tricky one. Castaneda calls fear "The first enemy of a Man of Knowledge", stating that it&#39;s always the first obstacle to overcome when attempting to LD. So don&#39;t think that your problem is unique. Everybody gets it to some extent. He recommends a process known as "Recapitulation" which I won&#39;t go into here, but you can Google it for a run-down, if you&#39;re interested.

In my own case, when I first decided that I wanted to attempt LD, I concentrated on the Castaneda-recommended RC of "looking at one&#39;s hands". I successfully found them in dreaming after three weeks of trying, but I kept waking up in shock whenever it happened.. I was too scared to hold on. That was 32 years ago. It took me 6 whole more years before I had my first LD proper... i.e. one that was more than just a few seconds of lucidity. It took that long for me to lose my fear. Don&#39;t ask me how I did it.. I couldn&#39;t tell you.. it just faded away seemingly by itself. So you might have to struggle like me at first, for quite a long time before you LD.

I suppose the question is:"Would YOU struggle for all that time?" Do you fully realise that it&#39;s not always easy to LD? It can be really hard work, let me tell you.

That&#39;s a great way to put it, Oneiro. I checked some stuff about Castaneda on wiki. Very interesting.