if u can wake up after being shot in a dream, and feel some sort of pain because your body makes it real, can u work out in a dream and actually gain muscle?
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if u can wake up after being shot in a dream, and feel some sort of pain because your body makes it real, can u work out in a dream and actually gain muscle?
No, because to gain muscle, you actually have to be working them (your muscles). Unless you could work out while you're dreaming, but that would be weird, and impossible.
but how can u feel pain from a dream
Nothings impossible... just unlikely... :content:Quote:
Originally Posted by Method
Unless you superglue weights to your hands at night, that is!
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Originally Posted by Elastic
And repediately move your arms up and down while you're dreaming.
Impossible. You'd have to tie weights to your hands when you sleep. Somehow, get over sleep peralysis and be able to move. Do the motions in your dream and hope you're doing them while lying down. Even though you would be LYING down, not being able to use gravity to your advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elastic
I'm going to say no, you can't workout while dreaming.
EDIT: Actually, while you sleepwalk I suppose it's possible, except I'm pretty sure you can't get lucid during this point of your sleep, so the odds at actually working out are VERY VERY slim.
Just workout IRL like normal people...
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Originally Posted by TripleX223
Just work out in real life, you sound like you're a 10 year old kid trying to impress some girl, haha, no offense.
''Hey, I've been working out in my dreams, wanna go out?'' :roll:
Your brain creates the sensation of pain for you, based on previous experiances.Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleX223
Often you don't even feel pain, I know I usually don't, that's why I don't mind doing crazy stuff. And If you wake up and remember your dream and have pain where you got shot, that is still your brain creating an illusion of pain, unless your dog stepped on your nuts while you were asleep.
nah... because of sleep paralysis, the stimulation would be minimal, most likely.Quote:
if u can wake up after being shot in a dream, and feel some sort of pain becusae ur body makes it real, can u work out in a dream and actually gain mussel?[/b]
Muscle growth and pain are very. very different.
Pain can be induced through placebo, and thus can be replicated by a dream--it's just a sensation, not a physical change.
Muscle growth is the rebuilding of muscle tissues damaged while working out. The actual physical exertion is important to the process. Now, it is possible that a similar placebo effect could somewhat stimulate muscle growth, but the effect would be extremely limited, if present at all.
Not to mention, working out in an LD would be frightfully boring.
Just work out during the day, it's not like it's that big of a deal.
Now this, I agree with (especially the stated uncertainty). The physical limits of placebo are, as yet, uncharted. There is a big enough area of undetermined possibility to at least consider it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsen
And I don't see why people are adding the advice to "just work out in real life." I think his question is sound and doesn't imply that he'd rather work out in dreams than in waking life. He's just asking about the physical possibility, isn't he?
It is proven that the muscles do react while in a sleep state or a meditative state on the other hand actually gaining large amounts of muscle mass is improbable.
Cool. I've always wanted to know this but was to afraid to ask :oops: ..
How about this, can you do your homework in a LD? I think it's possible, if you've got one hell of a dream recall :bigteeth:
I highly doubt you could do your homework, and gaining muscle is out of the question, but I think that getting better coordination adn improving your muscle control may be possible, as that is more psycological than anything, and just involves better neuro-signaling. Since your brain doesn't differenciate between immagination and the real thing, you probably could improve muscle control stuff like balance and hand-eye coordination.
I'm planning to write a big fat book and it would be really awesome if I could live through scenes so I would know how it felt ! That is of course, if the DC's respond to me as IRL..
Are you 12?Quote:
Gain Mussel (spelt Wrong) When U Sleep[/b]
Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Spelling muscle wrong, and wanting to do it in your dreams? Thats obviously a kids fantasy. Anyways, back on topic please.
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Originally Posted by ataraxis
You read my thoughts!
Who really knows. Try it and see.
Maybe you could pioneer a whole new and astounding way to pump people up ... a way to help those with muscular problems or diseases gain back some muscle through dreams.
If ever you do pioneer such a method and become crazy rich... remember and reward those who encouraged you in the beginning.
Namely Moi.
:wink:
And maybe den u kan sell how 2 brng reel stuf bak 4rom dreams! ! lol ya !!1Quote:
Originally Posted by Vex
You better not be trying to weasle your way in on one of my potential future meal tickets!!! :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by ataraxis
:P
:(
What's with the sad face... you don't want to be a potential meal ticket?
:P
It's actually very possible. I've read about Navy SEALs doing evolutions while sleeping. At Basic underwater/SEAL training, (BUD/S) the 3rd week of trainng is known as Hell Week. The trainees are given about a total of 14 hours of sleep.....for the entire week. They sometimes sleep while doing intense training because there brain shuts down from sleep deprevation but their body keeps on moving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Method
Anyways, not to get off topic :content: When you're shot in a dream, you're not actually getting hurt. It's all in your mind. It's so realistic that your brain thinks you're getting hurt.
But that's a very different situation--they're not gradually going to sleep, and they're not sleeping healthily. They're literally slipping into sleep because their mind cannot physically stay awake any more, and the reason that they're still moving is because sleep paralysis doesn't set in since they're in a very light level of sleep. When they drift off like that, it won't actually make them feel more rested.
So yeah, again, possible but not convenient or workable.
If you sleep deprive yourself like that on a regular basis, you will either have a massive mental breakdown or possibly even die.
Furthermore, you wouldn't be dreaming in this state so much as hallucinating. Imagine being really, really drunk, to the point where you're having a hard time distinguishing what's real and what's not. You're not really hallucinating so much as you are having trouble discerning what you're seeing, but you get the idea.
Coordination huh? I have none these days. I can't dance because of it. Could you improve dance skills maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by PenguinLord13
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Originally Posted by ;381594
No, you can not. If you can dance, then you can dance. It's that simple.
Of course you can improve your skills. It's called PRACTICE. Just look at Napolean Dynamite :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Developer
on topic please.. so is it possible?
What you could do is PM a more experienced lucid dreamer and ask him/her to try this out.Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleX223
I think he/she will be very interested and help you out, because everybody in this forum are so nice too n00bs (not ironic!) .
But I'm still going to kill you all tonight while lucid dreaming. Read more about it here:WILDing out!
Save yourselves! :bowdown:
Didn't laberge conduct some studies that suggest that the brain can send messages to the muscles in dreams that cause them to develop similarly as they would in real-life? Like a lot of people could use their dreams to improve tennis strokes and stuff.
TripleX, I think in your sleep you would be able to work out in a dream, just like anything in real life, but honestly it won't do you any benefit since it is only your brain simulating the motions and your not actually moving. No matter how many signals are sent to your muscles you need the motion, so nah, you can't. (Lift a car up and do 50 reps :) ) but why not use your LD's for more fun things like SEX and flying, and explosions and space machines and a giant dinosoar penis chasing you all the way to Thailand while you swim and it uses its amazing muscle power to chase you and get you pregnant from rape.
I wonder what that would be like having a baby with a giant dinosaur penis, anyway, hum, I guess I have something to think about while I go to dream.
Anyway, you don't sound like a 10 year old to me, so don't worry about that, I think anyone on here has good interest in lucid dreaming, so keep going!
He did studies that showed that if you practice a skill in a dream, you would get better at it because the brain makes new connections just as if you were doing the skill awake.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamerDavious
It's this simple: You can't increase your strength of muscle mass while sleeping, however, you can improve how you use your current strength. IE. You can train different skating patterns in your dreams and much other stuff.
w/e
If you have knowledge of power-lifting (not meant as an insult) you know that the olympic power-lifteres are never huge, massive guys.
Strength comes primarily from your nervous systems' ability to recruit more of your existing muscle fibers, rather than just creating new muscle. Hence, olympic power-lifters don't look like huge ripped bodybuilders.
To illustrate my point, think about this:
You can get better at something skillful (playing tennis, golf, whatever) in a dream, and it will be reflected in real life, because the brain and nerves are used to the action.
So you can gain strength, but NOT MUSCLE.
However, all this depends on whether in your dream the weights actually feel heavy.
thank you for a good reply
No problem.
I remember hearing a study about how just imagining certain finger excercises for a certain amount of time increased muscle growth by like 45% or something. So yeah, I don't think it's out of the question.
I remember when I was younger, my mom had a magazine open on the the bathroom floor that had an article about going into a meditative state and then imagining that you are running or working out or something like that and that your body gets alot of the same benefits as it would if you really had worked out. I think it talked about you really having to think it was going on or something so an LD seems like it would work great. I don't know if it was talking about building actual muscle but I would guess it was just talking about stimulation muscles and building connections and stuff. I think it was more about aerobic activities rather than weight training. I don't think it would hurt to try it but I'd rather do things that I can't do in real life in my LDs rather than worrying about things I can do all day.
If you eat too much in your dreams do you wake up fat?
I know that when you're in REM, the muscles you're using in your dreams twitch every now and then, but that's about it. I really really doubt you could create muscle, but then most of the human mind is uncharted and there's not a real definite answer on this.
Na I dont think so. With SP and the fact that your physical body is not being used, I find it unlikely that you can gain muscle. On the other hand, I've heard that you can get better at certain skills if you practice them in your dreams.