What Does Your Dreamself Tell About You?

I've been getting to the conclusion that my dreamself does everything I don't do in waking life and has pretty primitive instincts. My dreamself also loves to smoke and do drugs while I quit smoking in waking life some time ago.
Some of the things I do in dreams are clearly a release from waking life, doing stuff I usually keep myself from doing, but other things are really weird even to me!
So what do our dreamselves tell about us? Are they close to who we really are? After all, the things you do in dreams are things you do because you know nobody is there to point a finger at you. I'd like to know what you think of that?

Well, who else's wants and desires would your dreamself crave? Nobody's but yours!

I like to think of my non-lucid dreamself as everything that my mind contains, except for my consciousness. Memories, desires, fears, even body functions -- too much pizza and beer causing indigestion will affect dreams.

So, greed, humor, desire, anger, plus observations and unconscious decisions all come into play. Fear and desire. A great many things that I do not usually associate with my waking self. Lucid dreaming adds just one more thing to the mix: the conscious self. It is as if the conscious gets to play directly with the unconscious. And, in that play, the conscious self can come in contact with aspects of the unconscious that are usually submerged.

I like LDs exactly because I can find out who I really am, "up close and personal."

Ok, but if I'm like that I might just commit suicide right now!!! Tonight, for example, I did coke in a LD!!! That means that if there was nobody else in the world I would probably be doing coke! That's annoying to think of!

I disagree! What does the existence of anybody else in the world have to do with the coke thing?

Did you ask yourself why you were doing coke? Many times the unconscious does not "talk" to you in the same way that others talk to you. Just because Dream-Gremlin was doing coke, does not mean that Gremlin's inner self wants to do coke.

Maybe Dream-Gremlin was commenting on a movie you saw (scarface, anyone?), or what class mates are doing at parties, or a desire to go out and do something you'd never think you would do.

In my dreams, I have learned not to read things literally. The inner mind does not do things literally, only your outer conscious self.

I would suggest: a) don't get worried about the strange stuff that happens in your dreams or in your mind, its been that way ever since your mind started to dream when young; b) don't take dreams literally -- they are probably figurative of something you feel; c) when you dream lucidly, question every dream character you meet ("what part of me are you?").

Asking yourself (via DCs) about what and why you dream (and thus, what your deep self is expressing) is probably the most powerful thing LD'ing allows you to do.

I'm completely different in my dreams (even though they aren't lucid yet)... I steal... I get high... I participate in sexual deviant acts... I'm aggressive..I fight... or try to fight (you know, how your punches are like wading through quicksand).. but I think its our way of exercising our freedom that sometimes waking-life society restricts.

My dream self is just my normal self with out control. I kill, steal and leave no survivors.

My dreamself is basically my normal self. I don't do much that I wouldn't do in real life. I almost never have the urge to harm dream characters or anything like that, and my waking morals are almost always present. Strange!

Maybe the Establishment really has brainwashed me by now. It might also have something to do with my vague belief that your thoughts will affect your actions, in the long-term. Still, s'kinda weird that my dreamself is that close to my waking one.

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Maybe the Establishment really has brainwashed me by now. It might also have something to do with my vague belief that your thoughts will affect your actions, in the long-term. Still, s'kinda weird that my dreamself is that close to my waking one.[/b]

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Maybe you have more controll over your own thoughts. Is that something you've trained yourself to do?
I believe there may be marks from our old thought patterns that influence our present self and that our thoughts influence the order of things in the Universe. Maybe those patterns manifest in our dreams.

my dream self is mi mind self and and my action self combined,
mi mind part is that i fuck and kiss any girl i find, and my action self is that i beat up the people the ppl that pisses me off,
well i fly and other things but nothing i wouldn't do in real life if i had the chance (i suppose)

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Originally Posted by MrGrEmLiN

Maybe you have more controll over your own thoughts. Is that something you've trained yourself to do?
I believe there may be marks from our old thought patterns that influence our present self and that our thoughts influence the order of things in the Universe. Maybe those patterns manifest in our dreams.[/b]

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Hmm. I've never conciously thought, "I'm going to control the way I think," but I have thought, "I'm going to replace these negative/destructive thoughts with something else" and other things. Perhaps it amounts to something of the same thing. When I was younger I sort of... encouraged part of my brain to stay seperate, attempt to objectively observe my thoughts, and comment on the way they were going. (Is that weird?)

I do tend to be a bit more fearful or easily confused in dreams than I am in reality; I could completely see that as being a manifestation of my past self. It makes sense.

My dream self is me. Pretty much period, though occasionally confused and disoriented. The morals and ethics I espouse in real life are there in my dreams, whether lucid or not. Even though I know (when lucid) that I can act without discretion or physical consequences, I just don't have the desire to go outside those ethical boundaries... though going outside my PHYSICAL boundaries is just the coolest thing in the world!

I have found my dream self has two sides. One fairly normal version of me, if not a little bit more headstrong and fearless, whilst the other is pretty much psychopathic. I have 'killed' the psychopathic version of me in a LD before, but sometimes he appears in a couple of my dreams. The ones I've had with him as me were ones where I murdered a bunch of chavs after they tried to mug a bus driver, and another one where I slowly turned insane, seeing and hearing him in increasingly disturbing hallucinations, to the point of nearly putting my friends in danger, and killing all the doctors and nurses within the mental hospital I was thrown into.

However, that doesn't mean I have multiple personalities or am schizophrenic. That version of me probably is the manifestation of all my primal instincts and rage, one which in waking life is suppressed consciously, but in my dreams, is free to express itself, whether I like it or not. Thankfully, its only been a couple of dreams in which it has.

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Originally Posted by MrGrEmLiN

I've been getting to the conclusion that my dreamself does everything I don't do in waking life and has pretty primitive instincts. My dreamself also loves to smoke and do drugs while I quit smoking in waking life some time ago.
Some of the things I do in dreams are clearly a release from waking life, doing stuff I usually keep myself from doing, but other things are really weird even to me!
So what do our dreamselves tell about us? Are they close to who we really are? After all, the things you do in dreams are things you do because you know nobody is there to point a finger at you. I'd like to know what you think of that?[/b]

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That is a good question, Id say the biggest thing I see in myself is that I am too concerned about my old high school acquaintences. I was below-average coolness in high school, but really became comfortable with myself in college and afterwards, and it seems like in my dreams I always have something to prove to people I was only sort of friends with 6 years ago.

Also Id say I am more promiscuous in dreams, but in almost all cases, in the back of my mind i know it is a dream.

I did kill myself in a dream though see here

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/index.php?...t=0&start=0

pretty crazy/sweet dream though.

But i was in no way AT ALL suicidal, in the dream, i just had to do it.

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That is a good question, Id say the biggest thing I see in myself is that I am too concerned about my old high school acquaintences. I was below-average coolness in high school, but really became comfortable with myself in college and afterwards, and it seems like in my dreams I always have something to prove to people I was only sort of friends with 6 years ago.[/b]

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That only shows how things from the past are still there influencing who you are today. Why did you kill yourself? Did you know it was just a dream?

killing chavs... haha

I will try to do this next time I LD... I hate chavs

I'm pretty obedient in my dreams. I don't like to create conflict. I like to get things done. I'm never repetitive in dreams (unless, oddly enough, if I am lucid. When lucid, I'll try multiple times to do something, to try and make it work before I give up). In non-lucids, if something doesn't work, I'll immediately move on to the next best thing, without frustration.

I also tend to worry in my dreams. About family members, pets... My poor fish are sick in real life. Seeing them dead has become a dream sign through this past week. T___T

I just had a dream about two women kissing this night..
then I went lucid (no the women weren't there any more)...

My dreams are random but i can get two things from them, they seem to mimic my waking life events but they seem to happen in the way i'd like them to happen, as an example say i got beat up at school IRL, in my dream i would have either won the fight or not had a fight at all, my dreams seem to be the life that i strive to have if you get what i mean.

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Originally Posted by sogart

killing chavs... haha

I will try to do this next time I LD... I hate chavs[/b]

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I was really brutal as well... the first one I got to I broke his arm as he tried to stab me with his knife. Disarming him and then stab his with his own knife. The second one I grab onto and restrain him, holding him hostage against the two other chavs. One of them pulls out a gun, but I am unfazed and just start saying really fucked up shit to the hostage, getting him really scared to the point he pisses his pants. Suddenly, I just throw the chav forward in front of the other two, but the one wielding the gun gets spooked and shoots, killing his own friend. I then run around the shot chav and close up the space between me and the other chavs, and despite the chav shooting at me, he misses and I gut him with the knife. The other one tries to make a run for it, but I just pick up the gun and shoot him in the leg. I approach him as the chav tries to crawl away, but as soon as I get there, the dream ends...

Lol... That's even more sick than my dreams... At least I only harm myself and get freaky... I don't like to harm other people... I don't see the fun in it... 1 point for my dreamself!!! :content:

Nothing. I once believed that when you dream, you enter the body of one of your many parallel selves, in a nearby parallel dimension. Now that I don't believe that anymore, I always wander after some dreams, "What the bloody hell? Why the f*#k does my mind do this to me?".

I bet you guys can relate to this, regarding non-lucid dreams:

- Dreaming about people, things, situations, events that you haven't thought about in years or even hardly even thought of to begin with.

- Engaging in unspeakable acts which you don't even come close to considering in real-life, ie dreams of murdering or raping someone, dreams of incest(ARRRGG!!! they are the worst), child molestation, homoerotic dreams(BLURG!!).

- Dreams where you witness a family member die or about to die.

- etc..

I know everyone has these types of dreams, even people who don't dream often. But there are people who dwell on it more.

Do any of you guys wake up from these dreams and find you can't stop thinking about them because just confuse and disturb you so much?

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Originally Posted by MrGrEmLiN

Lol... That's even more sick than my dreams... At least I only harm myself and get freaky... I don't like to harm other people... I don't see the fun in it... 1 point for my dreamself!!! :content:[/b]

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It was a non-Lucid dream as well... in the dream, I literally snap and seem to become somebody else, and I'm enjoying the slaughter, though when I wake up, I'm pretty disturbed by it.... I don't like those dreams though...

EDIT: Dude... you live in Cascais? (Saw your dA account) I used to live in Carcavelos for quite a while (many many years ago though... )

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Originally Posted by SigH

Do any of you guys wake up from these dreams and find you can't stop thinking about them because just confuse and disturb you so much?[/b]

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Yes, of course. Especially the me-killing-someone dreams. They really bother me. My view on this, is that my dream self is basically me, but I have no impulse control. I want to punch someone in the face, I do it without thinking. but some dreams don't reflect me at all; they reflect my innermost thoughts and fears. For example, I probably am a little afraid of my ability to kill someone. As for the others you listed, most people are probably afraid of their family members dying, and, I'm sorry to say it, but a lot of people, (at least the ones I know) are afraid to some degree, of being homosexual. Just my 2 cents.

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Dude... you live in Cascais? (Saw your dA account) I used to live in Carcavelos for quite a while (many many years ago though... )[/b]

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Yup :wink:

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Yes, of course. Especially the me-killing-someone dreams. They really bother me. My view on this, is that my dream self is basically me, but I have no impulse control. I want to punch someone in the face, I do it without thinking. but some dreams don't reflect me at all; they reflect my innermost thoughts and fears. For example, I probably am a little afraid of my ability to kill someone. As for the others you listed, most people are probably afraid of their family members dying, and, I'm sorry to say it, but a lot of people, (at least the ones I know) are afraid to some degree, of being homosexual. Just my 2 cents.[/b]

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That's a good point... Some of the things I do in dreams could come from fears I have. Also, dreams may show a side of us we don't really like... And sometimes that may make us uncomfortable! Cause I believe what we are is based on the decisions we'd make without that impulse control.