The Curse of Spinning

The only thing I ever use spinning for is to retain lucidity the instant I feel it starting to fade away. I think some people are trying to use it for things it's not so well-suited for. It can be used for transformation of the dream scenery but I think that's best to be considered a side-effect and a potential failure of the intended usage, preventing the loss of lucidity.

Some people have good success when trying to use it to change the dream world but that's only happened a few times for me. And those few times were only failures of attempts to "artificially" extend the duration of lucidity.

My experiences with spinning is that it increased my lucidity and my clarity. Trying to stay lucid was like fighting to stay awake, but upon spinning, everything sharpened, like a haze lifting.

I spun as I would in reality, the way kids do to get dizzy. When I think of spinning, it's what my mind comes up with. Perhaps the manner of spinning is key to its effectivity?

Spinning relaxes your body in real life and gets rid of muscle tension that arises from lucidity. Muscle tension makes you wake up.

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Originally Posted by TalkingHead

Spinning relaxes your body in real life and gets rid of muscle tension that arises from lucidity. Muscle tension makes you wake up.

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How does it relax your body?

(Your sig: if the aim of life is death then why do we fight for survival in life or death situations?)

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Originally Posted by TalkingHead

Spinning relaxes your body in real life and gets rid of muscle tension that arises from lucidity. Muscle tension makes you wake up.

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No, no. You've got it all wrong. Spinning gives you the sensation of motion.

When a dream begins to fade, the dream world becomes even more unstable. So if, for instance, you tried to use visual clues (e.g. looking at something in the environment) to stablize a fading dream or lucidity you may find that there's nothing there to see, nothing to put your awareness into. If the visual world is fading, what you you have left to focus your attention on? That motion sensation gives you something to focus on, something that's relatively stable with respect to the dream world around you.

When you dream spin, no "external" clues or anchors are required. That's what makes dream spinning or falling the superior option, when used at strategic moments.

I've tried spinning a couple of times when my dreams have begun to fade, and it *almost* seems like it's going to work, the world sort of seems to become a little more real. Both times I've tried though, I've woken up. Maybe by the time I start spinning, it's too late and I'm going to wake up anyways...

And I don't really understand why spinning would change the dream scene... aren't a) solidifying the world you're in and b) changing it to another one sort of contradictory? It might work just because you're not focusing on the dreamscape, you're focusing on spinning, but I think there are better ways of changing the scene. I like to open a door after telling myself what's behind it. I also really like turning on a TV, changing channel to something I like (I just punch in a number and what I'm thinking of comes up), and jumping in.

I've tried spinning probably 5 times and it has helped dream clarity and longevity every time. its about focusing on your sensory inputs.