Question

Im not sure if this has been discussed or not, but is it possible to WILD when going to bed normally? Or will it just be cloudy dreams? the only LD i have had are 2 DILD's, and wanting to try something diffrent, thanks:banana:

It's possible, but it's like fighting an uphill battle.

It would be possible, but WILDs are hard at the best of times. It's best to get he recommended amount o sleep first.

I've had only a few WILDS in my life, but they were all right when I went to bed, before the onset of sleep. For me, trying to WILD after having slept for a few hours always just results in me falling back asleep in a few minutes.

So yeah it's possible, but like the others said, it's likely a lot harder.

-Redrivertears-

Redrivertears, but did you have to wait like 2 hours in SP to enter REM + LD?
(some people say you have to wait like this).

Hey there,

No, about 20-40 mins.

-Redrivertears-

Oh I see, then I've been LIED!:?

It may not have been possible for the person's who told you otherwise. Remember dreaming is not an exact science. What holds true for one person might not hold true for another.

That's why its always a matter of finding out what works for you and what doesn't, among the myriad of guides and responses and reported experiences that you'll find. No one holds all the answers :)

-Redrivertears-

It is possible, but really, it would be much easier to do it after 5-6 hours of sleep. If you try to WILD early in the night you might become frustrated, since first you've gotta sink through the other stages of sleep.

You'd find it easier after a few hours.

If I could WILD when going to bed normally I'd be very self-satisfied indeed.

Seriously I think you have to be someone special to be able to do this.
Nevertheless, I have heard tell of ones who can.

Physiologically, it's theoretically much harder to WILD at the beginning of sleep because the normal human sleep cycle is to enter sleep, go down to slow-wave (delta / stage III-IV) sleep, then come back up to REM after 90-100 minutes. Later on in the night, your body has gone through enough restorative (non-REM) sleep to be happy, and the REM cycles are longer. It's much more likely, then, that you can go straight from waking into REM after 5-6 hours of sleep (that's why WBTB goes hand-in-hand with WILD).

Again, this is just based on normal, textbook sleep physiology. Some people have a "disorder" called sleep-onset REM; some people can trick their brain into skipping or rushing through the initial non-REM stages; some people just have shorter stages. My advice is to try everything a few times, and see what works best. Good luck!