WILDs are easy?

I just found this forum while trying to get more info on lucid dreaming.

I've had lucid dreams off and on for a long time. I've always had them as WILDs (a word I just learned). I don't remember the first time I had one, but I remember it felt like my body was sinking through my bed and then I landed in my dream and I never lost consciousness.

The reason I'm looking for information now is that for the past couple of weeks I can do it every night. I wasn't even sure there was a word for this (lucid dreaming) so I definitely wasn't sure whether this was "normal". The wikipedia article explained everything but it made it sound like this was very rare or difficult.

I don't have any rituals or techniques. It just kind of happened to me. Now when I wake up at night. I just close my eyes, relax, feel my body sinking through my bed, and land in a dream world without ever losing consciousness. Like I said, for the past couple of weeks, I've done this every night. Last night I did it two or three times.

Are other people experiencing this? Is something wrong with my brain?

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How long does it take for you to get into a Dream and do you enter Sleep Paralis

I'm not sure about the sleep paralysis. I don't try to move so I don't know if I'm "paralyzed". Sometimes, right when I first start (before I start "sinking" into my bed), I'll hear a loud noise or a sound like someone yelling. And sometimes I feel like there is someone in the room with me. Come to think about it, that seems to be when it all started. I would wake up at night and lay there in that state where I thought someone was in the room with me. It seemed like I was in that state for 10 minutes--it was scary. That happened alot.

Anyway, now from the time I close my eyes to "landing" in the dream world only takes about 15-20 seconds when it happens in the middle of the night. If it happens in the morning, it takes longer--maybe a minute.

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You're not alone! :) This has happened to me a couple of times, in the morning when I've tried to fall asleep and have a lucid dream, and succeeded. But those times when I don't lose my conscious in between, I wake up because it feels so weird.

Do you manage to stay asleep and in your dream when this happens?

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You're not alone! :) . . . Do you manage to stay asleep and in your dream when this happens?

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I'm glad I'm not alone. :-)

Yes I stay asleep and in my dream. The first one I had last night was kind of different. I woke up in the middle of the night. I immediately closed my eyes, relaxed, and thought about my body sinking through my bed. It started happening in about 5 seconds. I felt like I was sinking for about 10 or 15 seconds and then I slowed down and stopped but I still felt like I was laying in bed--I didn't "land" in a dream world.

So I opened my eyes and got out of bed. But when I did, I still felt very, very relaxed. And even though I was 99% sure I was awake, I thought I may be dreaming. I had read about ways to test if your dreaming, so I looked at my hand and it only had four fingers. Ah, first sign I'm dreaming. Then I grabbed my index finger and pulled on it. It stretched like rubber about 6 inches. Then I knew I was in a dream--but the dream was in my bedroom.

The thing about these dreams is that they are so vivid and real. They are very difficult to distinguish from reality. That's why I had to test last night. In the dream I was convinced I was awake until I did the test.

Oh, when I was a child, I would sleep walk a lot. I don't know if that has anything to do with this or not but there's another "symptom" I have.

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Hi and welcome, vikneifdi!



There's nothing wrong with you, on the contrary!

I think a lot of people on this forum would give their right arm to have your, apparently natural, ability to have so many WILD's, and having them with such an ease!



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There's nothing wrong with you, on the contrary!

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Thank you! I'm glad I'm not alone or a freak. :)

But how is your dream-control? I mean, can you control everything/some that is happening around you, or are you just aware that you are in a dream?

I just posted another thread that answers that question. See the thread, "Creating People in LDs".

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I'll hear a loud noise or a sound like someone yelling. And sometimes I feel like there is someone in the room with me. Come to think about it, that seems to be when it all started. I would wake up at night and lay there in that state where I thought someone was in the room with me.

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I've heard of this! Even experienced it many times. Scares the hell out of you don't it? Its called being in a hypnogogec state or trance. If I recall correctly, someone correct me if I'm wrong, its when the brain tries to shift gears between conscious states. People who are conscious to experience it often hear a bang, boom, a voice or have a sense of falling. More than once I was jolted full awake because I thought something hand hit the wall in more room or that I was falling out of bed.

Seems we got the better end of the deal. Other people experience intense sudden fear and paranoia when this happens to them. Its been linked to night terrors and some psychologists think that alien abductions are actually nightmares (possibly lucid?) induced by this sensation.

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I've heard of this! Even experienced it many times. Scares the hell out of you don't it? Its called being in a hypnogogec state or trance.

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Oh yeah, it was scary! For a long time when it happened I was sure someone was in the room with me and was going to "get me". If turned on one side, then I knew they were coming behind me. If I turned on the other side, then I knew they were coming from the other side behind me. Not fun.

But now, if I wake up with that feeling, I immediately recognize it as a state where I can "sink" through my bed and be conscious in my dreams. I only just learned that was called lucid dreaming.

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You're one lucky duck. Read around at some of the fun stuff people do in their dreams, and give it a try.

Frequent sleep paralysis and hallucinations are what got me into lucid dreaming too. It's strange how it's so similar in everyone who experiences it.

Yep...that really is one hell of a WILD. A perfect WILD for that matter...you are one lucky dude indeed, gifted as we say. And I envy the ease at which you can enter your dreams conciously. Ocassionally by accident I complete a WILD as you said and if feels natural and easy, but other times it just won't click...Every night though? my god...no there is certainly nothing wrong with you, I'd say you've got an ability you should take advantage of...if it's really that easy for you, take it for what it is..and go in and explore your own little world..that's what we're all trying to do and you've got it right at your disposal! Good job man...lay back and enjoy:)

And give me some more LD's!

I have experiences like that also. What does your body feel like after you get into your dream body? Sometimes I still feel vibrations once im in the dream which makes it hard for me to move around, I'm trying to figure out how to fix this, any ideas?

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How long does it take for you to get into a Dream and do you enter Sleep Paralis

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I can usually like pull out of my body immediatly when waking up in the night. Theres no Sleep paralysis, I usually do a RC like look at my hand while I'm awake.

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I have experiences like that also. What does your body feel like after you get into your dream body? Sometimes I still feel vibrations once im in the dream which makes it hard for me to move around, I'm trying to figure out how to fix this, any ideas?

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Normally my dream body works just fine. But the night before last when I landed in the dream world (a field just outside a medieval village) I couldn't get my feet on the ground. It's like I never fully landed. I was hovering about 2 feet off the ground. I could force myself down but as soon as I touched I would bounce back up to the same level. Finally I gave up and just started walking. I was walking 2 feet above the ground but hey, it worked so I'm not complaining. :-)

I've read that you can gain more control of your dream body by concentrating on spinning it or rubbing your hands together. Haven't tried that yet, but I heard it works.

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I've read that you can gain more control of your dream body by concentrating on spinning it or rubbing your hands together. Haven't tried that yet, but I heard it works.

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This works extrmely well for me! The very first time I became Lucid I did these tricks and swear by them now. In this site I read of one guy who claimed he would say something like "increase Lucidity" in his dreams. I did this while rubbing my hands together because I was starting to wake up and lose my dream. Everything that second cleared up and I was fully in my dream again. I'm sure this only worked because I was told that it would, and never experiencing it befoe I had to beleive it. Because I read all about this, and new all the techniques before I even had my first Lucid. So if the mind says it will work than in your dreams it will. Also "Dream Spinning" is proven to work by many people. I hear there is a college in Hawaii that studies Lucid dreams and has gatherings once a year or participants all over the world. They have proven it as well. I also use dream spinning to change my dream scenes. I close my eyes, think of a place, and spin. When I open them I am there... sometimes. Not sure if it has the same effect with your eyes open though. Never tried.

I tend to maintain lucidity longer and exercise control more strongly in WILDs than in other lucid dreams, probably because of the memory - and perhaps brain chemistry - of having been awake just moments before the dream started. In DILDs I'm usually much dimmer - I may not be able to exercise an element of dream control that I could if I were more aware, and I tend to lose lucidity within minutes.

The first dream in which I remained both lucid and dreaming was a WILD.

Because I rarely cultivated WILDs even when I was actively into lucid dreaming, I still had more DILDs, and most of my remembered lucid dreams when I'm not cultivating lucid dreaming are DILDs (triggered by nightmare events or sexual events, oftentimes). The two lucids I've had since I got back into lucid dreaming have been deliberately cultivated WILDs...although the second one seemed to occur after waiting a longer time to fall back asleep, and was double-checked with a reality check in which I insisted on waiting for the specific dream sign of seeing text actively change or move before I concluded for sure that I was dreaming. In that sense, it bordered on being like those almost-DILDs where I fall short of lucidity by getting a false result on a reality test, and then going on with my dream to ignore further blatant dream signs.

So, in a way, WILDs are easier.