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It has been a few months since I have tried for a lucid dream. I was getting too obsessed and needed a break. I am back fully refreshed and ready to start mastering my dreams again. However, I am wanting to try some new things in my LDs. One of these things is trying to meditate while in an LD. I have experience with meditation in the real world but was wondering what it would be like in a dream. Is it possible? Has anyone tried this? What are some of the effects?
I've never tried it but it sounds interesting.
What do you hope to achieve by medatiating in a LD?
I have heard of it before but have no clue where. Maybe in a book. It is definately possible but I can't remember what it said. Maybe something about finding guidance and solutions. I think it said it was even better than wake meditation.
I think i read about this, a long time ago on this board. Some kind of professor or something like that, claimed that it was many times more effective than wake meditation (i actually remember it as a 1000 times ... although i doubt that;)). But i am not really sure about anyhing.
In EWOLD, it is adviced, to wake from a LD, by trying to go to sleep in the dream. Then, would'nt mediation wake you up too?
I have allways thought about the possibility of this too...
I assume that if while dreaming you are more in tune to your sub-conscious then unlocking chakras would be easier and more potent. That is of course if you can stay awake. If anyone tries this then please share your experience here.
Well yes i tried it and the dream went like this. Im riding in a car with my friends steve and brian i have no idea where we are going but im in the back seat and steve is driving i hear a rumble and looking behined me i see a rocket coming out of the ground behined some trees in the distance it shoots into the sky then disappears i instantly become lucid and i hear steve say "man this must be a dream" i say " im dreaming" twice and rub my hands together for a good start. I ask steve where we were going but he didnt anwser me so i decided to go with the flow we ended up at a one story blue painted house fighting with myself whether to find a girl or go on a adventure my sexual side takes over sadly for i am only a man. I walk into the house and i see a good looking girl from school but it hits me that i need to stoping having sex and do something better with my time and suddenly the idea of meditation hits me so i sit in the lotus position quite my mind for a moment and then repeat the mantra aum in a smooth rythm the effects on the mind is the normal calming affect but the room changed drasticly the only way to explain it was the room was vibrating very slowly it was a very strange feeling it was freaking me out so i floated out the top of the house and flew around a farmy landscape untill i opened my eyes laying in bed with a feeling of great exitment like i just got dont riding a roler coster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikekan
I had a ld last night and was flying and suddenly thought of the whole meditating while lucid thing and briefly shut my eyes and lost everything to blackness:mad:. Not to worry though a few seconds later I picked back up where I was. Flying is so fun btw.
lol
meditating while ld.. it is illogical... 2.. you dont understand what meditation is..if you talk in this way - meditate while ld..
3.. bah.. fly while you are lucid, meditate while lucid, do whatever you want while lucid..
While is it illogical to meditate in a ld?Quote:
Originally Posted by roguext22
I'm pretty sure we know what meditating is and it is completely possible to do so while in a dream.
so.. why you want to do in dream? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePhobiaViewed
why not in real life lol?
It has been said that meditating in a dream is more effective than meditating in real life. I personally probably wouldn't do it because I don't get lucid too often and have other things I'd rather do.
dont believe by all : it is said that...
someone said that.. or a wise men says..
The point of meditation is to better understand yourself; Your true self. Dreams bring up suppressed thoughts and emotions, so why is it illogical to combine the two. If anything it is very logical.
Roguext22, please try and make your posts more coherent. I'm assuming english is not your first language, but still, it is very hard to make out what you are trying to say.
I think that you are saying essentially that you shouldn't believe everything you hear. Except, in this case, it makes perfect sense.
I'm looking forward to see if someone tries it. I don't get lucid enough to give it a shot, unfortunately. But hopefully that will change soon :)
well just because you dont understand what i say, doesnt mean i dont understand english..
and maybe english is not your the first language also..
just tell me why to meditate in dream?
its like suggesting to meditate while being drunk.. ( in other words, being less aware of everything.. )
Umm no. In lucid dreams you are usually aware of lots of things. Dreams are generally viewed (a wise man told me this:D) as being closely linked to things in your life and your subconscious so it makes sense to use dreams to understand more things about yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by roguext22
you have to admit, in reality it is most easy to be aware of most things...
in lucid dreams its not so easy..being drunk is more hard to be aware even of your actions... in simple dreams you cant make your decisions..
Sorry roguext22, but you do need to explain yourself a little better,Quote:
Originally Posted by roguext22
First of all why is it illogical? and why would flying in a dream be more logical? I would seem to find that more illogical,
Also , yes I think quite a few of us are aware of what meditation is, considering many of us practice in it every day,
And yes personally I myself am very intrigued by the thought of meditating in a lucid dream, because already being deep in your subconciousness, imagine how much deeper you could go through meditation and the things you could possibly discover about yourself :)
Anyways, to each their own, whatever might not work for you, might just work for those who are more open minded to it
Anyways, just my view.
Namaste :)
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Originally Posted by roguext22
What holds us back though in the waking hours, is we are more in a Regular Conciousness state of mind, and much of the time our underlying subconciousness is hidden from us.
Now when we enter a dream, we experience a rising of the subconciousness, and when we lose much of our conciousness you would experience what I guess you could call a non-lucid dream, You are pretty much believing everything that is going on, and really dont get to excercise much control over your dream,
Now when we enter a lucid dream, you have more of a balanced state of conciousness and subconciousness, So personally I think there is much awareness to be gained from this. Because you are conciously more aware of your subconciousness and able to make the most out of it
Heck, I am going off on a tangent here, but I will give a little analogy,
Waking hours are like floating on top of the ocean, Your aware of all that is on the surface but really cant see far into the deep below, when you are dreaming you are deep under the water, Smothered by the darkness of the deep below, now, when you are lucid dreaming, you are in the deep but with a flashlight , so you have the ability to discover more about your subconciousness.....
Anyways, being drunk can't really be compared to lucid dreaming, sorry... Considering that the drunken state is chemically induced and puts toxins into your brain, and Lucid dreaming is a holistic way to discover deeper parts of your self...
Anyways, hope I made some sense
Namaste :)
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Originally Posted by roguext22
In "reality" you are less aware of things. People just buzz around completely unaware of their actions and surroundings. If you have ever seen the movie "shaun of the dead" the scene where the main character goes about his normal day even though everyone is a flesh eating zombie is not only hilarious it is parallel to the truth. In dreams you are so much more aware of your surroundings because you are actively creating them, and how can you possibly compare it to being drunk. Thats a depressant. That means it is actually blocking nerves from being able to fire.
In non lucid dreams you may not be making your own decisions but the dreams are atleast spawned from your subconscious
you are so noob :) but its very good you will keep your point of view..
you just dont know me... and my point of view again, naturally is different from you...
but i tell the basics, not the sub-conscious, dreams mixed all together :)
You need to stop...abusing periods...you don't make much sense...so stop insulting people like you are better...thanks...Quote:
Originally Posted by roguext22
if i call people a noob - 1. i dont insult him, 2. i dont even want to show im better than he.. i even hate then people like you thinks im trying to show im better... is that clear by a tiny bit now? lol
To address the first statementQuote:
Originally Posted by roguext22
#1. If people take offense of what you say to them, than its an insult, I personally dont like being called a noob, and by the word noob, you mean a "newbie" or of lower knowledge, yes? Well how is it you think that we are noobs? Sure, I am new to this forum, but I have studied and read about dreams for years, so there are probably some things I can teach you about..
#2. We didn't say at all that we are trying to show you think you are better than us, its just that you need to watch some of the statements you make, or have something to back them up with.. Lol.. and the word hate...
All you need is love,
Anyways, to wrap this up, in life we are all students until the day we die, but we all have something that we can teach eachother too
So lets not be at war with eachother here.
Namaste :)
agreedQuote:
Originally Posted by NewDreamer