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Lucid dreaming on ABC
Thoughts on how they present this?
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NEWS!!!!!!!
Lucid dreaming on ABC
Thoughts on how they present this?
A very basic write up - mostly formed of quotes from LeBerge - can't be bad for publicity of lucid dreaming though.
I didn't like it. Thinking that your subconscious is sending you messages through dreams is little better that believeing that all of your dreams are messages from God. Why would anyone waste time with non-lucid dreams when you can do anything you've ever wanted to with that time?
Good video, i can show that to people now to let them know im not making it all up :D
Why is this thread stickied? (stickyed? stuck?)
maybe I'm just selfish, but I really don't want lucid dreaming to become some new craze you know hit the main stream or whatever. It's special to me :embarrassed:
Good publicity for LDing either way. :D
yea man me too.
I think it should stay underground.
only for those curious enough to discover it on their own
via google or w/e. Not mass spread over the news.
Thats my 2 cents
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Originally Posted by mikestankus
Nice! Now I'm slightly less pissed off at Disney.
It looked like that guy was going to crack up while talking about it. I also think the news is making it sound very difficult, or you cannot achieve it unless everything is perfect.
Why would people go all the way to Hawaii when they could come here:D
Hah I dont know.
I guess dreams in Hawaii are.. better? aha
Was that Laberge in the video?
I am half way through the book
"Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming"
written by laberge
and I think the guy in the video is him.
And He doesnt look at all what I thought he would look like.
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Originally Posted by mikestankus
Hey mikestankus. How do you like the new Radio Head?
Yes, That is La Berge. He has certainly aged.
I am disappointed by the overall bit. The overtones make the concept seem on the realm of metaphysical or yaa OK right. Another piece - "manipulating your dreams." Manipulating?
I used to believe it should stay underground, unknown. But why? Selfishness? I took a deep look at my motives and found they were self absorbed. Just as I would like to pass on anything I feel to be positive, I think no differently than the skill of lucid dreaming.
The more people to realize the benefits of lucid dreaming will in turn have good and positive changes and awareness over all, no?
More experience, more feedback. Possibly outlooks we have never thought of.
Well I see where your comming from
And I guess the part of me that wants it to stay underground
is the selfish part of me.
I feel that if all of the sudden everyone were to start lucid dreaming
than I would not like it, but for an unknown reason.
But now that I think about it, I do wish there were more people
I could just ttalk to about dreaming without them thinking
im a psychopath. I guess If LD'ing did get out, it would be for the better.
Oh and the new radiohead album is a masterpeice btw.
:P
Oh and light without heat guy,
Ive been playing Guitar for about 6 years
Im a huge steve vai fan too.
I think he's above most guitarists.
Also a big fan of John Petrucci from dream theater.
Last Vai song I learned was probably the attitude song, aha
good stuff. we should talk guitar some time.
oh, you ever play guitar in a lucid dream?
That would be sweet I havnt.
I have played guitar in a regular dream, and I blew out my amp
sucked. hah get back at me maynee
Ya mikestankus, i know EXACTLY what you mean. I don't know why but somehow, because the world doesn't know about lucid dreaming, it makes it so much more special to me. But I don't really know why but i guess it is pretty selfish. I dunno... maybe its the fact that in my dreams i can do things that VERY FEW other people can, and if everyone knew about it... well then it would be nothing special. But i think it would be nice if a few people i knew, understood it. Then they wouldn't see me as crazy.
By the way, i love the new album too!
I know what you mean. Take radio head for example. They have a ton of great songs and all you here is creep.Quote:
Well I see where your comming from
And I guess the part of me that wants it to stay underground
is the selfish part of me.
I feel that if all of the sudden everyone were to start lucid dreaming
than I would not like it, but for an unknown reason.
When the public really adheres to something I too tend to get repulsed by it. :P
I really don't see LDs becoming that way.
If they did, they are still my dreams. :boogie:
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oh, you ever play guitar in a lucid dream?
That would be sweet I havnt.
I have played with Jimmi Page twice. One Lucid. The non lucid one was better. My conscious mind was not analytical of the situation. The non lucid dream I was just jammin. Jamming hard, it was intense.
I'm not sure why Page twice..?
I like how in the article they warn that if you lucid dream too much you could lose the fact that normal dreams can warn you and stuff. If I ever become that good at lucid dreaming am I really gonna care about stuff like that anyway?
I too like it underground, but I'm not completely against the idea of it becoming more well known. I take comfort in the fact that most people won't have the willpower to become proficient in lucid dreaming even if it is hyped by media coverage.
oh and mikestankus, nice avatar like you said the album's a masterpiece! I too play guitar, nice to see other musicians here :D
Aha yea that was funny about becoming too good at lucid dreaming
and eventually "you could lose the fact that normal dreams can warn you and stuff."
I agree with the theory that dreams are mostly just "Daily Residue"
That term was coined by Freud and it basically means that
random stuff in your waking life, stuff you never even notice
shows up in your dreams usually. Therefore, I wouldn not mind a bit
lucid dreaming every night. Well dreams are still very unknown to us, so who knows
maybe they are "messages from god" or whatever other whacky shit i've heard.
Until I get some proof, I am going to manipulate every damn thing I want to in my dreams, and Im going to have a blast doing it.
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Originally Posted by Howie
Yeaa I know what you mean about creep, hah. I like the song, but its not even my favorite. Thats why I cannot listen to the radio, because it makes me hate good songs.
But yea thats cool you jammed with jimmy P . I am deff jealous
I had a dream once I was performing accept I was rockin out on the air guitar and I got really into it, sliding across the stage. the chicks were diggin it :P
I totally forgot about that dream, that was a good one too. real vivid.
And ROCK ON all you musicians in this thread.
Seems like every person who posts plays guitar, or
has jammed with Zeppelin : p
What a great Forum ehh??:banana::banana:
I could not agree more actually...Quote:
Originally Posted by Howie
if lucid dreaming is gonna get alot bigger in the near future... those of us who see it as something special, I think the only solution is to become lucid dreaming experts! while it is still somewhat underground!
me tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Zimmerman
He didn't act like I thought he would either, I found him more odd than I pictured himQuote:
Originally Posted by mikestankus
So that is him in the video?
He seems really flambouyant.
Not that theres anything wrong with that,
just not how I pictured him.
I pictured an older man with white hair
with a stethoscope around his neck, idk why aha
me, tooQuote:
Originally Posted by mikestankus
a more like... respectable figure
I played guitar with avril lavigne (no idea why, can't stand the woman) and have played guitar with my unborn son. Strangely, also played guitar with the devil.
Now, fully expecting flames here, but here goes anyway! I hope more people DO learn to lucid, and get really good at it because then they will realise they can live their "perfect" lives in dreams, and do the mundane stuff in the real world. Personally, in my dreams I am an awesome guitarist (I suck in real life) and I am ridiculously rich in the dream world (I do ok in real life). So what else could I want in the real life? I have a beautiful girlfriend in the real world, and any woman I want in the dream world. PLUS, I can leap off 9 storey buildings and land safely in the dream world, something I could never do in the real world.
My opinion is that if more people could lucid dream, then people would be more chilled out and less obsessed with material posessions. And remember, a LOT of wars, fights and other troubles are over what people want. Once you can have whatever you want in the dream world, stuff in the real world becomes irrelevant...
I prefer it not being mainstreamed. It makes me nervous that all it takes is one celebrity to talk about LD to make it a phenomena.
At this time, I don't really see how lucid dreaming could become a mainstream "fad", simply because most people are so accustomed to electronic devices providing their entertainment to them directly that the effort required to learn lucid dreaming would prevent most from sticking with it.
Once scientists perfect an affordable device or pill that can truly trigger a lucid dream on-demand, every time it is used, then I could see it becoming a mainstream phenomenon.
As for the ABC news report, I thought it was good. I am all for anything that takes people out of the paradigm of being externally focused 100% of the time, and putting value on the introspection that is inherent in lucid dreaming. When people are encouraged to learn to take control of their minds there will be less knee-jerk reaction and more thoughtful contemplation.
Y'know, I might believe this if my dreams normally contained ordinary stuff, or if my day to day life normally contained stuff from my dreams; from last night for example, crimson-skinned elves, deceptive doctors who actually want to kill me, hit and run assassination, or a post apocalyptic world where all the mutants want to kill me and take my books. Novels, that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikestankus
Not that my dreams don't ever contain ordinary stuff; my friends show up from time to time, and recognizable locales do also, but rarely at the same time. And even when they do, it's mostly the "I know that I'm in my house even though it looks nothing like my house" feeling. So yeah, my dreams are crazy.
I would like to say, that I don't play guitar, and I listen to the Red Hot Chilli Peppers. I was in band, though, for two years. I played flute. Does that make me a musician?
[QUOTE=Captain Sleepalot;673493]At this time, I don't really see how lucid dreaming could become a mainstream "fad", simply because most people are so accustomed to electronic devices providing their entertainment to them directly that the effort required to learn lucid dreaming would prevent most from sticking with it.
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I don't think it would become like myspace or ipods or something... just one of those hip things to do, the new "in thing".
I don't think it will ever be the "hip" or "in" thing to do, but even if it was that would be fine with me because I would have more people in daily life to talk to about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamous
I just don't really see how lucid dreaming becoming a popular phenomenon could degrade its value for me personally.