WILD With No BTB?

[ScroLL-X]

When falling asleep at night I can get past the point where I hear loud noises that are only in my head. I then get visuals that are vivid. For example before I went to bed I was watching Dragonball and I was clearly seeing Dragonball characters fight in my head. At this point it feels like my breathing is on automatic and I get a really strong feeling that I'm running out of breath and that I need to take over. I usually give up at this point. My question is how do I reach the next level and what is the next level? This is without back-to-bed.

[Mes Tarrant]

Omg that avatar is crazy. We don't usually recommend WILDing without WBTB simply because people don't normally fall into REM right at the beginning of the night. It takes a few hours for REM to begin, which is the stage of sleep where we dream.

[Dizko]

I got to the same point as you, so im going to try it with a wbtb. PS: I really dont get by people have scary avatars and signatures, on a site where everyone is so big into dreaming... But i suppose it gives us new monsters to fight.=P

[ScroLL-X]

Hehe... Thank you for the responses and enjoy the full pic of the avatar.

[Dizko]

Needed to see that...[/sarcasm]

[Vegan]

You could try FILDing, which is sort of like WILDing without BTB, you have to wake up though, so maybe not.

[Harrycombs]

I hear that some people can do that. I have been trying but to no avail

[Zimmerman]

Just the picture I needed to see during a WBTB... hope that doesn't make its way into tonights dreams I've gotten to the point where I hear noises and feel vibrations without WBTB, but only after having had some sleep have I ever successfully WILDed. Some people have done it but the general consensus is that it's always easier if you do WBTB + WILD.

[Barns]

You could do it in the morning, as then you have already been sleeping and you can slip back into the REM in seconds.

[Saintwolf]

You could do it in the morning, as then you have already been sleeping and you can slip back into the REM in seconds. Very true. I have few dreams during the night but between my alarms (10 minute snooze) I can have a new dream each time.