Can you really do anything?

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Originally Posted by Zera

Hiya, I've known about lucid dreaming for years, in fact, as a kid, I remember having quite a few. Anyway, I haven't had one for a long time, and just recently I've started to try getting better sleep and some lucids down the road.

Now, I want to ask you guys who can LD, is anything really possible? Is taste a sense that you have when you LD? If I wanted to eat ice cream in an LD, would I feel the flavor and the coolness in my mouth?

Or say I wanted to walk through a wall, beat people up, punch my grandma in the face (just kidding).

Haha I think I know what most of the answers are gonna be:

"Yeah, depends though if you're really lucid or semi lucid"

"Well, yes but you might wake up from excitement (hopefully not of knocking your granny out).



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I've tasted things in regular dreams...like a chocolate bar, and it was delicious! So i'm sure it's possible in a lucid.

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Originally Posted by Photolysis

If you have the appropriate control, the only limitations are your imagination, the amount of REM sleep available, and to some extent, how varied your experiences are in the real world.

Since the brain uses information already obtained as a basis to construct things, the wider a range of experiences you have, the more realistic the feeling.

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If what your telling me is true, then how does my brain know what sex feels like when I haven't even had it before?

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If what your telling me is true, then how does my brain know what sex feels like when I haven't even had it before?

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But you don't know what it really feels like by definition!

The brain is very good at constructing things based on existing information. For instance, flight is something many people can create a vivid sensation for, despite having never experienced self-propelled flight. The reason is that they've been exposed to acceleration, gravity, wind, etc, and so it's quite easy to take these things and reuse them.

The brain is also quite good at interpolating information and creating sensations for new experiences in dreams. You might be able to create a vivid sensation of sex, and for all I know, it might be completely accurate compared to it in the real world, but the point is that it's basically an educated guess based on what you know and your expectations.

But we all know the sensation of body heat, and countless other things that would be involved in sex, so the fact that people can create the sensation is not surprising.

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Originally Posted by Photolysis

But you don't know what it really feels like by definition!

The brain is very good at constructing things based on existing information. For instance, flight is something many people can create a vivid sensation for, despite having never experienced self-propelled flight. The reason is that they've been exposed to acceleration, gravity, wind, etc, and so it's quite easy to take these things and reuse them.

The brain is also quite good at interpolating information and creating sensations for new experiences in dreams. You might be able to create a vivid sensation of sex, and for all I know, it might be completely accurate compared to it in the real world, but the point is that it's basically an educated guess based on what you know and your expectations.

But we all know the sensation of body heat, and countless other things that would be involved in sex, so the fact that people can create the sensation is not surprising.

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Wise words:)

has anyone really tasted something in a dream. i know its possible but i seem to always get a bland taste if i eat something. honestly who here has really ate something and enjoyed it?

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Originally Posted by Photolysis

But you don't know what it really feels like by definition!

The brain is very good at constructing things based on existing information. For instance, flight is something many people can create a vivid sensation for, despite having never experienced self-propelled flight. The reason is that they've been exposed to acceleration, gravity, wind, etc, and so it's quite easy to take these things and reuse them.

The brain is also quite good at interpolating information and creating sensations for new experiences in dreams. You might be able to create a vivid sensation of sex, and for all I know, it might be completely accurate compared to it in the real world, but the point is that it's basically an educated guess based on what you know and your expectations.

But we all know the sensation of body heat, and countless other things that would be involved in sex, so the fact that people can create the sensation is not surprising.

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Well said. Are you some sort of scientist which studies the brain?:D I bet half of you on here are cos you seem to know a lot.

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Originally Posted by aceboy

has anyone really tasted something in a dream. i know its possible but i seem to always get a bland taste if i eat something. honestly who here has really ate something and enjoyed it?

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LOADS AND LOADS of chocolate ice cream and the funny thing was; when I woke up I felt full. Really good method of having you fav food but yet still losing weight by not eating it in real life. It tasted fine, maybe cos I believed it would.

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Well said. Are you some sort of scientist which studies the brain?

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Haha, thanks.

I understand a bit about how the brain works at the most basic level; how signals are conducted along nerve fibres for instance, but I definitely don't study it.

It is clear though that the brain works by modeling things and updating the model based on new experiences. It's actually quite awe-inspiring when you realise that everything you see in the real world is simply a model constructed by the brain, and how powerful it is in this regard.

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Originally Posted by aceboy

has anyone really tasted something in a dream. i know its possible but i seem to always get a bland taste if i eat something. honestly who here has really ate something and enjoyed it?

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The taste thing doesn't quite work for me either. Also smoking; I had a lucid cigarette once and it felt I was like inhaling fine, cool powder.

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Originally Posted by pakistan

I don't think you can get 360 vision though, its just to mind boggling.

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I've had 360 vision. It is possible, and yes, it is pretty mind-boggling.

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Originally Posted by aceboy

has anyone really tasted something in a dream. i know its possible but i seem to always get a bland taste if i eat something. honestly who here has really ate something and enjoyed it?

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Yea, I've eaten cookies and other things in non-lucids. I've remembered what they taste like only a few times, but they really do taste real. I only remember eating once in a lucid and it was still real tasting. I think it tastes how you expect it to taste. You may as well expect that it will taste real, right?

my quick answer to this question is no - because you are limited by your own consciousness/imagination

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can you manifest as 50 people, and see out of each of yourselves in first person? probably not, more than likely 49 of yourselves will be third person perspective

is anything possible in a lucid dream? yes, but only if you can break those limitations

All that is possible is all that you can imagine. I notice posts on this thread about having experiences in dreams that you havent had in waking life... yes its correct that our brain models and maps out our reality from our experiences it and stores it... it uses this information to construct dreams and can be fairly accurate in synthesizing new experiences from existing information. Obviously the more information you have on the subject, the more accurate the experience will be. It is possible to experience vividly a full range of senses. Sometimes in dreams (non-lucids) I eat things that I would never eat in waking life (like chocolate, I dont eat it on principle) and it tastes very real.