Thread: nicotine

I was about to ask this, too. I don't know, but before my last LD, I smoked two cigarettes (About three hours before going to bed) and well, I had an LD. I don't know wether that affects it, though.

ok, too bad u don't know. I'm trying to quit so i thought if there were any negative effects it would help my motivation

Oh, I guess I'm a bad example then x]

I've been a pretty regular chewer of nicotine gum 4MG and I haven't noticed any different with my dreams...

...just thought I'd share.

Originally Posted by GestaltAlteration

I've been a pretty regular chewer of nicotine gum 4MG and I haven't noticed any different with my dreams...

...just thought I'd share.

cool thanks

Originally Posted by Überschall

Oh, I guess I'm a bad example then x]

Don't u worry i'll manage ... somhow

Found this in O'nus' Physiology of Sleep FAQ

Spoiler for Quote from O'nus:

Nicotine, Dorsal Raphe Nucleus (DRN) & Dreaming

This asked for some research before I could answer.. and it's still inconclusive. I could not find any correlational research done to determine the direct relationship between nicotine and sleep. However, I did find some articles about the correlation between the dorsal raphe serotogenic activation and dreaming.

First, yes, there is no serotonin in nicotine. However, it has been shown that nicotine excites dorsal raphe neurons by depolarizing noradrenergic axons, releasing noradrenaline, which then activates alpha1 receptors on serotonin neurons. 1

In a rat experiment, rats were inject with flesinoxan (a selective 5-HT1A receptor agonist (stimulates serotonin)), and monitored with electorencephalograms (EEG).

"Male Wistar rats, each weighing 320-350g, were implanted with Nichrome electrodes (200 um diameter) for chronic sleep recordings of electroencephalogram and electromyogram activities by means of placement on frontal and occipital cortex for the former, and on dorsal neck musculature for the latter." 2

Edit: See the reference link for the graphs which thoroughly explain the experiment. I could link to the graphs and didn't really deem it necessary.

To sum it up to easily understand, nicotine stimulates vivid dreams. However, they may typically be aggressive dreams. Nightmares may easily precipitate from aggressive dreams simply because of the close biological (and mental) empathetic level. Psychologically, aggressive sleep will produce angry thoughts and frustration. These dreams will cause dreams of profound wish fulfillment usually being the death or murder or an individual. However, with a Jungian perspective, I would say that it would postulate that which in yourself you wish to change and which is flawed - what is causing you the most intrapsychic stress.

It could be useful.. actually..

Although, I could not find conclusive correlational research done between nicotine and dreaming, so, it's really just a (logical) hypothesis.

And from Wikipedia:

Spoiler for Wikipedia Quote:

Nightmares

Most patches are intended to be worn for 24 hours at a time, and then be replaced at the same time every day. However, some individuals wearing the patch while they sleep experience abnormally vivid dreams or nightmares [3]. Within this group, some people become acclimated and are not bothered; others find them completely intolerable. Other people actually enjoy the intense vivid dreaming, experiencing no nightmares or unpleasant dreams, just pleasant dreams of unusual intensity.
For some smokers the solution is simply to wear the patch for approximately 17 hours only, and remove it before bed. There are also several brands which offer sixteen hour patches. However, because the patches take between two and four hours to achieve peak concentration in the body, this can leave the wearer vulnerable to cravings in the morning, particularly if they don't put on the patch immediately when they wake up. For heavier smokers, or smokers whose prior smoking habits included a smoke first thing in the morning or when getting home from work, the twenty-four hour patches can help avoid times of the day where the patch is not delivering enough nicotine and cravings start.

It would seem that nicotine increases the vividness of dreams as well as the number of nightmares the dreamer has.
I'm going to have to agree with O'nus and say that nicotine could actually increase the chances of a person becoming lucid

Here's the rest of that section of O'nus' tutorial:

Spoiler for The rest:

Tobacco use is the leading prevetable cause of death in the United States. Smokes is responsible for approximately seven percent of total U.S. health care costs, an estimated $80 billion each year (Society for Neuroscience statistic).

Nicotine acts trhough the weel known cholinergic nicotinic receptor. This drug can act as both a stimulant and a sedative. Immediately aftere xposure to nicotine, there is a "kick" caused in part by the drug's stimulation of the adrenal galnds and resulting discharge of epinephrine. The rush of adrenaline stimulates the body and causes a sudden release of glucose as well as an increase in blood pressure, respiration and heart rate. Nicotine also suppresses insulin output from the pancreas, which means that smokers are always slightly hyperglycemic. In addition, nicotine indrectly causes a release of dopamine in the brain regions that control pleasure and motivation. This is thought to udnerlie the pleasurable sensations experienced by many smokers.


It is proven that nicotine is, in fact, much more dangerous to the body than marijuana by ten-fold.

EDIT:
Notice that its the patch that causes vivid dreams. I assume that unless you get up in the middle of the night and smoke a few your not actually going to feel the effects of nicotine on dreams from your normal smoking habits.

Holy shit, then those cigs might really have triggered the LD....

brb, smoking xC

whoa billy bob thanks for the info, u did a good job diggin all that up , though im not sure I understood it all