sharing a room :(

I share a room with my sister. That can obviously cause some problems with lucid dreaming.
1) She snores louder than anyone I've ever heard, and it keeps me up. If I wear earplugs though, I can't hear my alarm clock, so that would make WBTB impossible anyway, because I can't purposely wake myself up. I've tried
and 2) I can't move into the guest room because my mom wants that to remain for guests

So the snoring thing is a huge problem. Although we can't actually move into the guest room, as I mentioned before, we take turns sleeping in there, because I just can't sleep and she sounds like a car engine that wont start. I only have about one lucid dream a month, and I'm wondering if moving from bed to bed would have something to do with it.

then there's school, which makes it hard to LD, and with the situation it's hard to do any kind of technique that requires my alarm clock going off at 3 am.

any help guys?

Well I have a similar perdicament, as I'm in a dorm with a roomate who snores like a motherfucker. How I deal with the snoring is a decent pair of headphones and an mp3 player. I fall asleep every night with some moderately relaxing music on (usually Rus for me, as it helps me focus my thoughts as well; I usually try to focus on the bass as that doubles as helping me pull out bass lines in songs). Within a few hours of falling asleep, the headphones have usually fallen off.

As for the waking up, my solution probably won't work for you but I'll share it anyway FWIW. Since I usually sleep into the afternoon, I just wake up when my roomate's alarm goes off (I'm dropping out and transferring, so I don't go to class anymore). My problem is that at 8:30am I'm usually too tired to want to stay up to WILD, so I just go back to sleep :roll:

I suppose you could try getting an mp3 player with a built in alarm if there is such a thing...

Hope at least the first half was helpful.

Sorry, but I have bad advice for you.

Be persistent and just sneak into the other bedroom, or the living room sofa, or wherever- when everyone is asleep and get a good nights rest. Do this in spite of your mom giving you a hard time about it. For me there is a time to break rules, this is one of them. I feel that eventually she'll begin to accept your behavior about what you won't tolerate.

How long have you been sharing a room? If it's more than a couple months, I bet you're used to it by now and will probably not have an issue falling asleep.

As for WBTB, why not use a vibrating alarm? Usually a cell phone with an alarm can perform this function. Try it.

As softocean said, if you're gonna do WBTB I suggest sleep somewhere else than your bed - it seems to be a crucial step for some people.

Thankfully when I learnt about LDing my sister had already moved to another city for university.

The vibrating alarm is a great idea: it just seems no sound wakes me up at all, even without headphones :)

Btw, how old are you? I believe a mother would understand that you should have your own room after a certain age. Just discuss with her: theer are many benefits other than LDing to that.

Finally, I suggest doing the techniques in the morning, when you can oversleep, rather than WBTB.

waking up at 3:00 to LD wont make u tired, unless ur up for like 1 hour.
wake up, do whatever and ur usually back asleep in like 20 mins, which is nothing

My wife used to snore so loudly that I slept very little. She also did this scary chokeing noise -- she'd stop breathing, then about a minute or so later she'd take this big gasping breath. Scared me so much I'd wake up each time she stopped breathing. Then I'd lay awake waiting for her to breathe again. Sometimes I just woke her up because she had not breathed in forever. She went to the doctor and found out she has sleep apnea. Now she wears a special mask at night that forces her to breathe. She snores very little now and I sleep much better.

Maybe your sister has sleep apnea?

thanks for the replies guys!

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Originally Posted by Abra

How long have you been sharing a room? If it's more than a couple months, I bet you're used to it by now and will probably not have an issue falling asleep.

As for WBTB, why not use a vibrating alarm? Usually a cell phone with an alarm can perform this function. Try it.

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actually we've shared a room for years :disconcerted:. The reason I'm not used to it is that it wasn't until this year that I started noticing the snoring (for one reason or another :confused:) and she usually sleeps in my brother's room but now she's just saying that she wants her bed back (I didn't kick her out btw, she moved on her own :P)

and that vibrating alarm is a great idea :)

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Originally Posted by Kromoh

As softocean said, if you're gonna do WBTB I suggest sleep somewhere else than your bed - it seems to be a crucial step for some people.

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Would that mean sleeping in a different bed then the one I fell asleep in before doing WBTB? cause if that's the case then i'll still be in the same room with her at some point

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Btw, how old are you? I believe a mother would understand that you should have your own room after a certain age. Just discuss with her: theer are many benefits other than LDing to that.

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I'm 16. I know I really want my own room, but there isn't an extra room for me to stay in, as the guest room - I'm mentioned - is to remain for guests. I'm just gonna have to wait till my brother moves out I guess :(My mom might be more sympathetic if she knew why I felt this was important, but with my experience from trying to tell my dad about LDing, i'm trying to keep it on the DL in my family.

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Originally Posted by seeker28

Maybe your sister has sleep apnea?

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my dad has sleep apnea, maybe she does. I think I heard my parents talking about it at one point.

ya, thats pretty gay that u have to share a room when there's a perfect "guest" room open. screw, that. move in it

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Originally Posted by lagunagirl

I share a room with my sister. That can obviously cause some problems with lucid dreaming.
1) She snores louder than anyone I've ever heard, and it keeps me up. If I wear earplugs though, I can't hear my alarm clock, so that would make WBTB impossible anyway, because I can't purposely wake myself up. I've tried
and 2) I can't move into the guest room because my mom wants that to remain for guests
any help guys?

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hahaha! I have the exact same problem. The only way to get used to the snoring is adjust your own breathing rythm to it. Also the snoring will irritate you which keeps you from concentrating. What you need to do, is associate a positive image with the snoring.. like imagine your sister is actually a car having hard times to start up :D (I just imagine a huge pig sleeping next to me so I wont get distracted with my sisters snoring, each snore makes the image sharper.

You could also try to convince your sister not to sleep on her back because it makes her snore, but I don't think that will have any effect :p

The WBTB Techniques just are a technique to make you go to sleep when you are already sleepy! You can just make yourself sleepy doing some running or having a sex marathon with your bf.

Ah yes, I also share a room with a snoring monster. What I do is wear those gel ear plugs which really helps me not hear him snoring, and for my alarm clock I just put it on vibrate in my pillow.