NATURAL LUCID DREAMERS ONLY!!!!!!!
I want to see if there is a correlation between natural Lucid Dreamers and there Racial Group.
Please dont be offended by this Poll, its just out of curiosity.
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NATURAL LUCID DREAMERS ONLY!!!!!!!
I want to see if there is a correlation between natural Lucid Dreamers and there Racial Group.
Please dont be offended by this Poll, its just out of curiosity.
Firstly I don't see a poll, secondly could you tell us why you think there would be a correlation in the first place? :wtf: Our brains are all the same. Thirdly, do you think that you will get a good enough sample by posting a poll like this on DV? We're mostly white in here.
Aren’t there enough of these sorts of threads around? When are people going to accept that there's no uniting characteristic of most lucid dreamers?
I'm not sure that your race changes the way you dream, but nice idea anyway. Also, why is Jewish in there? Isn't this about races?
Jewish is a race you moron. I don't want to be mean but come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ostego
How nice, I'm a "moron". Can you explain to me how Jewish is a race?Quote:
Originally Posted by 27
Well there not white, if thats whats your thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Ostego
Jewish people are not white? So a white person has no right to become Jewish? What the hell?Quote:
Originally Posted by westonci
Where not talking about religion, where talking about race. However Jews are both a religion and a raceQuote:
Originally Posted by Ostego
Jewish is not a race. Also, get your where, were, we're, they, they're, their and there right.Quote:
Originally Posted by westonci
Yes it is. Link.
Well done, you gave me a link which doesn't help prove your point. Where in that text does it say that Jewish is a race? Try Ctrl + F. That's the Find function. Type in the word "race". Notice that it doesn't find any text saying that Jewish is a race. Still calling me a moron?Quote:
Originally Posted by 27
you gotta read between the lines :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Ostego
There might be a bigger link between culture an lucid dreaming.
What now? Did I just take something too seriously and derail the thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by I H8 Reality
Can't we all just get along..
Ha.
Isn't being Jewish an ethnicity? Kind of OT though. :banana:
Cusp, I have to agree about culture being a bigger factor.
How about where it says that it is an ethnoreligous group in the first paragraph? Did you read any of it? Belonging to the Jewish religion doesn't mean you're Jewish ethnically. Being Jewish ethnically doesn't mean you belong to the Jewish religion. What is so hard to understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ostego
This is what it says on about.com - http://judaism.about.com/od/abcsofju...eingjewish.htm
Well the article was written by a jew, so its biased. Its in there best interest not to be referred to as a race, and blend in as white people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xox
Right. You can convert to the Jewish religion. But most people in the Jewish religion share a common ancestry which is a race in and of itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by about.com
Judaism is not a race. It is a religion. Being Jewish is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry or biological distinction. People of many different races have become Jewish people over the years.
95% of jews are descendent's of Khazaria (Russia) and there ancestors converted to Judaism around 1000 AD.
Only 5% of jews today have real Jewish blood in them. Most of them live in Morocco, Iran, Egypt, North Africa and are indistinguishable from Arabs.
http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-diaspora.html
You copy and pasted from an article without saying where it was from?Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofclutch
enough arguing, we all know jews don't really exist. they are figments of our imagination.
however, one time when i was lucid, i summoned a jew.
If you actually did want to prove anything, you would need a larger and more diverse group.
On a side note, I highly doubt there is any correlation.
This man makes more sense than 27 and westonciQuote:
Originally Posted by i make it rain
Also, I like how this started from 27 saying "You moron, Jew is a race"
Your only 15 you still got a lot to learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ostego
Your only 19 and still need to learn to write.Quote:
Originally Posted by westonci
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Originally Posted by Budster
Yes, a thousand times yes!! :angry: Looks like people really need to educate themselves on how to properly conduct surveys. Any statistic you might find with a survey like this would be utterly, completely useless.
Everyone lay off the jews. :P
vice versaQuote:
Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant
Jews lay off everyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by westonci
I'm like one of the few mexicans in here with an interest in lucid dreaming.
You are? I am a native mexican too, currently living in Mexico.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xibran123
this poll doesnt really represent a correlation by race.
to get usefull "correlation" with a race u will need to get the ratio of natural LDers to non natural LDers in a certain group.
hence you should have had a poll yes or no to natural LDer per race.
for example:
there are 20 people from group "A" that read the thread and participate.
only 2 are natural LDers
so 2 vote. 18 dont respond.
when you get this 2 it says nothing about the correlation with the group.
it just says 2 people out of an unknown amount who read the survey are natural LDers(which is useless data). You will want to know 2 out of 20 people are natural LDers in group "A" and you can say that 10% out of this group are LDers. You can then compare this percentage with other groups.
And like someone else already said, even if you had a proper method, you will need a ton more people to participate than those will probably respond to this thread to get anything close to a good survey.
Yeah, besides, the number of racial groups is too varied, there seems to be a large amount of Persian and Arabic members on here. :roll: :lol:
You can't get an accurate sample or an accurate result from this poll.
To begin with, what is your total population of people included in this poll? For instance, if you say I think more people like cats than dogs and then test this theory with an internet poll on a cat site then what does that really say? It would be much better if you random sampled individuals that represented a better view of the total population. Or using that same example if you said I think more people like cats that are female then go to a cat site and post your poll (the site btw is 88% female) guess what your results will be? It would be much better to go out in the population and test an even number of males and females in various locations. This makes for a more accurate poll. Are you following the examples?
Taking this a bit further your poll doesn't account for multi-racial individuals which do compromise quite a large number of individuals and it doesn't touch on all the possible major ethnicity groups and also has a wrong term when talking about ethnicity.
You might want to look into what "race" it...is a social construction.
http://www.pbs.org/race/001_WhatIsRace/001_00-home.htm
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/01race/race.htm
No hurt feelings:hug:, just trying to help you get a better picture for objectively analyzing your results if you were really interested in data of this type.
This right here. Race having anything to do with dreams is bloody unlikely, hell I'd say the idea is retarded. On the other hand though, culture can have a great impact on your dream habits and your abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cusp
Hypothetically, if you were part of a culture in which dreams are looked at as evil say, you probably wouldn't remember too many dreams, and if you did, you would more than likely suppress the dreams rather than explore them. On the other side, if you look at a culture like the Dunne-za* tribe, who's belief system is founded on dreams and dreaming, you will find people who dream frequently, have fantastic recall, and purposefully do certain activities in dreams (in what I would bet is lucid dreaming).
*I believe that was the name of the tribe, but anyway, if you want a good ethnographic work, of a culture that puts a lot of significance in dreaming, check out Trail to Heaven. It's not written like your average ethnography either, it has narrative, and a certain style that I enjoyed.
yeah seriouslyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant
I second Arby's reaction to this thread.
If anything, I would think there could be slight differences in the dreams, like if a black person(from Africa or something) and a white person(Somewhere north) had exactly the same life, then possibly they could have different dreams... But I don't think it's anymore than that.
Meh, actually, everyone thinks differently, I don't think it's possible to find differences related to the race.
Oh, and ofcourse, /facepalm
Although, it is well known that Oompa Loompas have the best dreams.
What is a "natural lucid dreamer"?
Haha, I love how being Jewish is put as a race up there.
i dont know if this person didnt read the thread or is just trying to be funny. if it is the first one you made my day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grod
how about we ask the one person who said they were jewish if it is a race or religion.
and is this site really 88% female? wow...hello ladies ;)
The blacks have an extra bone in their ankle. That's the reason they are so good at lucid dreaming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant
Kidding, but isn't this poll useless if there isn't an equal number of races polled? By this poll, I can guess white people are the best. Yet, that really doesn't mean anything if white people are the majority in voting.
This poll is useless on MANY accounts, several of which have already been mentioned.
And no, this site is NOT 88% female. :P Anyone who has been active here for longer than a week would know that. That's another thing - people can screw around with online polls and lie.
i have only been active here for like 3 weeks. sweet, i am kind of off the hook for sounding stupid. :P and im pretty sure nothing new can be said on this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant
Agreed. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by i make it rain
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