Is Lucd Dreaming the way to Break Out of the Matrix?

Hi Everyone:

Been wondering, why of all things, you never see the subject of "Lucid Dreaming" in the mainstream media and generally not a thing known by too many. Even the movie "Vanilla Sky" badly screwed up the idea of LD.

Could it be the controllers/creators of society know that it is from the Lucid Realm that we would be able to change our subconscious and bring that joyful lucid energy back with us to the waking world, thereby breaking their chains of emotional bondage?

Is this why there's barely any focus on ld and they straight away want to take you to the ASTRAL and OBE world, which is my opinion is not a very wise, safe/clever thing to do, unless of course, maybe I don't fully understand the reason for delving into a place where you are dealing with negative energies.

Any opionions?

Well if that was true then wouldn't the *cough* "creators" kinda shut down this website?

Not sure how much you belive in this idea of the matrix-esque world being real but...

Emotional bondage sounds like a kinky way to brighten your day! XD

Yes. It is a ploy by our Reptilian Overlords to keep us grounded in the Earth Energies until they reveal themselves in 2012. Once they have blown up the pyramids mankind will never be able to dream again, and we will be forced to spend our lives as slave laborers in the salt mines. Our only chance to avoid this scenario is to have a collective shared lucid dream in which we battle with the Dream Walkers and Night Stalkers and banish them forever from the Astral plane.

Interesting as that is. I personally don't believe it's Reptilians. After all, if it were, they would have shown themselves long time ago and achieved their goal, by scarring the crap out of everyone then.

I do believe it is a group of men who will indeed declare "World Domination" by enacting a fake Alien Invasion, thereby handing over all power to the United Nations in 2012. Notice how they have been subliminally implanting the idea of aliens for a long time.

Still it does make one wonder who this evil entity/idea/power whatever it is, that these men are working for. Also is it a part of the creator that went awry? The creator/creators went out to dabble in it's/their creation and never thought it would end up this way?

Indeed it would be lovely to have a collective Lucid Dream in order achieve this goal. However, there are a few lucid dreamers who are into killing, raping and whatever in their lucid experiences. They are not aware of these subconscious implications. Therefore, we don't really want to hook up with their energy. Not that I'm judging them or that they're wrong. It's just that in order to deal with wickedness, I feel a good dose of purity is the only weapon. Perhaps, I think we might need to just work on our individual selves and make ourselves inwardly as powerful as can be in order to deal with this great mystery/puzzle.

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Originally Posted by Splitter

Well if that was true then wouldn't the *cough* "creators" kinda shut down this website?

Not sure how much you belive in this idea of the matrix-esque world being real but...

Emotional bondage sounds like a kinky way to brighten your day! XD

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"cough". Indeed I did think about that, that's why perhaps we shouldn't discuss too much here. It was just an idea I thought I'd pass along.

Nah, underneath all bondage lies a darkness that is nothing but pure pain. Don't let those fancy, prettied up Bondage Flicks take you into a 'REAL ILLUSION".

nothing yet, everything is real.

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Originally Posted by Splitter

Well if that was true then wouldn't the *cough* "creators" kinda shut down this website?

Not sure how much you belive in this idea of the matrix-esque world being real but...

Emotional bondage sounds like a kinky way to brighten your day! XD

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I'm pretty sure they wouldn't want to shut down the site, as it's more important to find out what ideas are floating around in our minds. So best don't discuss just mull it around for yourselves?!

Ohh....
But i wanted a reveloution :(

FINE, looks like I'll go all joan-of-ark and take them down myself!
But she got burnt...
Ok

Looks like I'll go all rambo and destroy them all!
But maby guns and rippling muscles aren't whats needed...
Ok

Looks like I'll go all-Bolloks to it, i'll happily surrender as long as they promise to put a starbucks on every street :D

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Originally Posted by Splitter

Well if that was true then wouldn't the *cough* "creators" kinda shut down this website?

Not sure how much you belive in this idea of the matrix-esque world being real but...

Emotional bondage sounds like a kinky way to brighten your day! XD

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Yeah, I know about this idea about the matrix-esque world not being real. Pretty tricky idea. However, wherever I am and whatever I am feeling at the moment can not help but be real to me.

There's no getting away from the now/me/myexperiences so yeah, it's pretty real and I must know what it's all about, especially when other people's bull crap can affect me without my permission. One thing for sure I know, is that I am a Creator. Why let the matrix/others use my abilities/power to create a shitty world? Nah, not on my watch.

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Originally Posted by Splitter

Looks like I'll go all-Bolloks to it, i'll happily surrender as long as they promise to put a starbucks on every street :D

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by The Enterer

Yes. It is a ploy by our Reptilian Overlords to keep us grounded in the Earth Energies until they reveal themselves in 2012. Once they have blown up the pyramids mankind will never be able to dream again, and we will be forced to spend our lives as slave laborers in the salt mines. Our only chance to avoid this scenario is to have a collective shared lucid dream in which we battle with the Dream Walkers and Night Stalkers and banish them forever from the Astral plane.

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Ya, thats what I was gonna say. :laugh:
Except you left out the part about combining all the crystal skulls!

Seriously, lding is not mainstream because its outside of the average persons capacity. Anything that is introspective is always going to be for a select few because the average person is appalled by introspection.

Even once the concept of lding is known by everyone, most people will still ignore it, or try it a few times and then give up. A good example is meditation, its been around for eons and everyone knows what it is, but very few people are really into it.

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Originally Posted by lucid4sho

Seriously, lding is not mainstream because its outside of the average persons capacity. Anything that is introspective is always going to be for a select few because the average person is appalled by introspection.

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Outside of the average persons capacity is also: Math, Sewing, Painting, Different Languages, etc., until they are introduced to and taught about it. So was many religions until it was taken into many countries and taught with dire consequences.

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Originally Posted by lucid4sho

Even once the concept of lding is known by everyone, most people will still ignore it, or try it a few times and then give up. A good example is meditation, its been around for eons and everyone knows what it is, but very few people are really into it.

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Once the concept of lucid dreaming was known by many on this forum, they DID NOT IGNORE IT, and are trying it more than several times, in order to and are successfully acheiving it.

Make no mistake about it, not VERY FEW people are really into meditation. Notice it's a word very close to medication. Mind numbing, in order to take people into a NON-SENTIENT, NON-LUCID, ONENESS MENTALITY/WORLD.!!!! The New World Order Religion. Again note, the bible has a story of a demon, when asked what it's name was, it said "we are many. We are "LEGION". Get it RE LEGION. As I've said before, be very careful who you give your mind away to. All is not as "LA LA LA LA LIFE IS BUT A DREAM" as it seems!!



So why again not the teaching and preaching of the clarity of LUCIDITY!!!

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Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID

Outside of the average persons capacity is also: Math, Sewing, Painting, Different Languages, etc., until they are introduced to and taught about it. So was many religions until it was taken into many countries and taught with dire consequences.

Once the concept of lucid dreaming was known by many on this forum, they DID NOT IGNORE IT, and are trying it more than several times, in order to and are successfully acheiving it.

Make no mistake about it, not VERY FEW people are really into meditation. Notice it's a word very close to medication. Mind numbing, in order to take people into a NON-SENTIENT, NON-LUCID, ONENESS MENTALITY/WORLD.!!!! The New World Order Religion. Again note, the bible has a story of a demon, when asked what it's name was, it said "we are many. We are "LEGION". Get it RE LEGION. As I've said before, be very careful who you give your mind away to. All is not as "LA LA LA LA LIFE IS BUT A DREAM" as it seems!!

So why again not the teaching and preaching of the clarity of LUCIDITY!!!

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People would have to be relentlessly forced to practice lding techniques from childhood for it to be something that everyone does regularly. Even then many people would probably not be able to do it. The same goes for advanced math, sewing and painting aren't even comparable.

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Originally Posted by lucid4sho

People would have to be relentlessly forced to practice lding techniques from childhood for it to be something that everyone does regularly. Even then many people would probably not be able to do it. The same goes for advanced math, sewing and painting aren't even comparable.

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People have been relentlessly downloaded with Freemasonic His Story since kindergarden and they parrot their miseducation and are happy slaves for the Freemasonic society. I geuss lding wouldn't be of much benefit for them.

Advanced math, sewing and painting are highly comparable, have you ever seen Bob Ross paintings? Do you know how much training goes into being a painter of that calibre? They are all skills that need to be taught and practiced in order to attain a level of perfection. Actually, lucid dreaming as compared to the aforementioned takes far less time to perfect.

Also what about bizarre soft porn/evil/murder that's been downloaded into people via the Freemasonic Bible and other religious books, making mankind into zombified, non-thinking fanatics???

Everything is learnable. It's just what will be beneficial to the Freemasonic society. Again, the freedom and indivduality that comes from lucid dreaming wouldn't be of much benefit to these creeps!!

Hmmmm, skip the lucid dreaming, let's go straight for:

On 14 September 2008, The Mail on Sunday reported thus:


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CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS FIVE SHOULD BE TAUGHT TO UNDERSTAND THE PLEASURES OF GAY SEX, according to leaders of a TAXPAYER-FUNDED education project.

Heads of the project have set themselves a goal of 'CREATING PRIMARY CLASSROOMS WHERE QUEER SEXUALITIES ARE AFFIRMED AND CELEBRATED'.

The ambition was revealed in documents prepared for the No Outsiders project run by researchers from universities… At a seminar at Exeter University tomorrow, supporters of the group will… discuss 'PLEASURE AND DESIRE IN EDUCATIONAL CONTEXTS'.

A document prepared for the seminar and couched in convoluted academic jargon says:

'The team is concerned TO INTERROGATE THE DESEXUALISATION OF CHILDREN'S BODIES, THE NEGATION OF PLEASURE AND DESIRE IN EDUCATIONAL CONTEXTS, and the tendency to shy away from discussion of bodily activity in No Outsiders project work.

The danger of accusations of the corruption of innocent children has led team members to make repeated claims that this project is not about sex or desire… Yet, at a very significant level, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS ABOUT and to deny this may have significant negative implications for children and young people’.

BOOKS, PUPPET SHOWS AND PLAYS ARE USED TO TEACH CHILDREN ABOUT SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIPS.

The seminar will 'question the taken-for-granted of the SUPPOSEDLY SEXLESS, BODILESS AND DESIRE-LESS PRIMARY CLASSROOM' and examine 'the place of the research team members' own bodies, desires and pleasures in this research'…

Patricia Morgan, author of studies of family life and gay adoption, said:

'The proposal is that primary school classrooms should be turned into gay saunas. This is about homosexual practice in junior schools. THE IDIOTS WHO REPEALED SECTION 28 SHOULD CONSIDER THAT THIS IS WHERE IT HAS GOT THEM'.

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Originally Posted by The Enterer

Yes. It is a ploy by our Reptilian Overlords to keep us grounded in the Earth Energies until they reveal themselves in 2012. Once they have blown up the pyramids mankind will never be able to dream again, and we will be forced to spend our lives as slave laborers in the salt mines. Our only chance to avoid this scenario is to have a collective shared lucid dream in which we battle with the Dream Walkers and Night Stalkers and banish them forever from the Astral plane.

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Sounds like a good book.

I was thinking we'd be going into the digital world... where we have to help our digimon fight -.-
lol (childhood memories...)

Maybe a badly programmed matrix.

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

Sounds like a good book.

I was thinking we'd be going into the digital world... where we have to help our digimon fight -.-
lol (childhood memories...)

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Yes and one where upon entering, you cannot leave, for the someone who is in control, has flipped the switch!

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Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID

Yes and one where upon entering, you cannot leave, for the someone who is in control, has flipped the switch!

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A good video mentions a way to break out of the Matrix. From my post: Mind over Matter: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBGeo...eature=related

oh god, this crap again? i thought i made you leave the forum in your last topic?

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Originally Posted by BaKo

oh god, this crap again? i thought i made you leave the forum in your last topic?

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Break out of your delusion douf. You indeed no one, could ever be that bright or powerful!:banana:

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Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID

Break out of your delusion douf. You indeed no one, could ever be that bright or powerful!:banana:

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oh boy, someone needs to do a reality check. first off, you said that you were leaving, so you're the one lying here. second, I look forward to the day that you wake up from this stupidity to realize that things are the way they seem, and that these conspiracy/matrix theorist idiots are doing what they do simply for the money, attention, or because of mental instability. For some reason people always love to believe the unbelievable, a conspiracy, something that goes against mainstream knowledge... this is a perfect example. I don't know if its to add some meaning to your otherwise dull life or because you actually are gullible enough to read everything you believe, even if its written by morons. There is ABSOLUTELY 100% no evidence to support this. Just because plato threw some people in a cave 2000 years ago doesnt mean that the world is controlled by some powerful elect group of "creators" (yes, i remember that tidbit of stupidity from your older posts). now its your turn to wake up from your illusion.

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Originally Posted by BaKo

oh boy, someone needs to do a reality check. first off, you said that you were leaving, so you're the one lying here. second, I look forward to the day that you wake up from this stupidity to realize that things are the way they seem, and that these conspiracy/matrix theorist idiots are doing what they do simply for the money, attention, or because of mental instability. For some reason people always love to believe the unbelievable, a conspiracy, something that goes against mainstream knowledge... this is a perfect example. I don't know if its to add some meaning to your otherwise dull life or because you actually are gullible enough to read everything you believe, even if its written by morons. There is ABSOLUTELY 100% no evidence to support this. Just because plato threw some people in a cave 2000 years ago doesnt mean that the world is controlled by some powerful elect group of "creators" (yes, i remember that tidbit of stupidity from your older posts). now its your turn to wake up from your illusion.

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Ah yeah, Okay:roll:

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Okay. Dream Views started as a lucid dreaming website. We lucid dreamers came here to talk about lucid dreaming.

AND THEN, BOOM

The "wabbadabbadiduu"-dudes found this website, and started loading their crap over here. OMG!!! Why do all these people have to come here? Make your own forum and leave this one for LUCID DREAMING

When we gather information trough our neural system troughout the day, our brain doesn´t store the information properly. That is why we sleep so the brains have some time to save that data. And when we are asleep, our brain isolates from the neural system. And the parts wich get info from the neural system get "woken up" when we are at REM sleep. Then they gather info from inside the brain. Then we see dreams.

AND IT´S JUST THAT!

Just try to accept it. We dont go to any "spiritual" place when we sleep, we dont see "demons", and nothing like that occurs while dreaming!!

And the "sleeping stones" or whatever, wich are supposted to make ourselfs sleep better and feel better at daytime or whatever, WE KNOW EXACTLY, that when our brain believes in something, it starts to act like that, for evolutional reasons. So if I would give you a pill saying, that it makes you LD for sure this night, you would most propably have an LD next night.

Or then lets take anabolic steroids. Actually a big part (even 10-20%) of the muscle gains they give you, do not occur because of the staight anabolic affect they have. The 10-20% of the affect is caused by our brain (ourselves), wich thinks: "Because of those steroids, I must get big gains" and then our body does it that way, increasing mucle gains...


So what if you few, who have to do topics like this would just accept, that we dream normally, there is nothing weird with it, and the world we live in is the world we live in, and in my opinion, the only "spiritual" thing in this world is God. And I´m not saying that anyone has to believe in God, but I do.

I think that the 90% of the users of this forum thinks the same way I do about you "spiritualdemonmatrix"-dudes.