what happens when YOU go into lucid mode?
for me, right when i realize im dreaming, everything turns grey for a second then im in lucid mode, pretty weird huh?
you?
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what happens when YOU go into lucid mode?
for me, right when i realize im dreaming, everything turns grey for a second then im in lucid mode, pretty weird huh?
you?
Actually, when I was experiencing my first lucids (probably 1-10) I would get a very characteristic "shudder", as though my dream were shivering like the back of an animal when a fly lands on it. The dream would shiver, then stabilize, and then I'd either continue the dream or wake up.
Now the only characteristic thing that happens is that I often start laughing at myself for taking so long to realize that I was in a dream. :tongue:
Basically I feel like I woke up, and everything around is me is vivider.
It usually begins with some really intense buzzing in my head, like someone is holding a lightsaber up to my ears :)
If I remain calm while that's happening, I typically drift into a lucid dream
Its so hard to explain i find. Basically i also wake up sort of, but its more
like becoming conscious that im drifting into sleep....but not dreaming. I
can then keep myself in the conscious, falling asleep stage, which sort of
feels like your leg does when its asleep but my whole body feels like that.
My eyes are open and everything is fuzzy. I have to get myself out of that
fuzzy, tingly stage, and what i do is sort of push out of my body. Not literally
but dreaming this. I always start this way. It takes about a split second
to push out and float above my body or stand on the floor. Now the lucid
state is vivid and i just fly somewhere and do whatever i feel like doing.
That might sound strange to some ppl, but i totally know what youre saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shift
Me? Nothing... everything is the same, other than me knowing its a dream its normal lol
for my its like my vision sharpens and focuses.
I remember getting a fuzz above my eyebrows in a few lucids also.
Same thing happens to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaLeB-
The first time i went in to lucid mode it was a DILD and i was at the part where i just realized that i was dreaming. That's when everything just went black and i heard voice saying "are you sure you are dreaming" i replied with a "yes". Then the voice asked me where i wanted to go and i said "a beach" then poof i was at a beach.
Now when i enter lucid mode i get the "shift" do a reality check and walk out my bedroom door.
That is sleep paralysis, not a lucid dream ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dearly
I usually just get so bored, amazingly. I usually can't think of anything to do, so I just either let go of control or see if I can wake up to read a book or watch TV, which has lead to many false awakenings.
I am here to tell you that sleep paralysis can lead into a lucid dream. I knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Shift
this for a fact.
But that's like saying backing out of your driveway is the same as driving on the highway. It's not, it's just the way that you get from one to the other. You go through SP every time you go to sleep. Sometimes you can use it to LD, mostly you pass on into unconsciousness. SP and LDing are not the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by supreme
me too it just clicks and then i have controlQuote:
Originally Posted by Walms
Well what im saying is that sometimes ill wake up while being in SP. Or IQuote:
Originally Posted by Shift
should say im conscious of being in SP, because you are obviously still
asleep. So then because i know im still sleeping, but im conscious of it....
ill sort of push myself out of the SP body and start LDing. I know exactly
what im doing and whats going on. To me its always an ideal way to
start an LD because i know im lucid, but dreaming. It rarely happens but
when it does, i always use this state to start a LD.
This is something i had a chance to think about last night. Youre completelyQuote:
Originally Posted by CaLeB-
right! Last night i started to become lucid but I realized right away i was
too close to waking up if i tried to do anything. What i did notice tho was
while i was lucid for a few seconds. I could see the pattern of my blanket
which was kind of up around my face.....absolutely perfectly! Just as if the
light were on but, it was pitch black in that room at the time. I knew i was
lucid and i thought, oh good here we go, but i didnt move (dream move)
because i knew i wasnt far enough into sleep yet and that id wake right up.
So i thought id try to go a little deeper first...............but then fell asleep! :?
I had just gone to bed when this happened. I always start a LD from minutes
after i hit the pillow (when they do happen). I bet only 2 or 3 minutes had
gone by when i realized i was lucid, and i was thinking about it at the time.
I was thinking that....I know im lucid because i can see the blanket vividly,
and was thinking that i also knew that the room was pitch black and
that my eyes were also closed at the time. Its too bad that i fell asleep
after this because i was also thinking of how i was going to be in two places
at one time, once I got going. The damned thinking process put me to sleep
tho....I should have just been concentrating on the blanket and waiting for
the LD to be strong enough to leave my body. Think about stuff later while
youre in it. lol
Well you are incorrect, you are not obviously still asleep every single time that you are experiencing SP. It is pretty common to be awake and be experiencing SP.... But yes, the reason people focus on achieving SP when WILDing is because you have to be in SP to fall asleep and begin dreaming, and tons of people know to use this technique to become lucid. They are still not the same thing. One is simply able to serve as a precursor to the other, if you are able to WILD.Quote:
Originally Posted by supreme
What?? How can you be completely awake while in SP?? If you were awake then youdQuote:
Originally Posted by Shift
be able to move. The reason you cant move or even talk is because youre
really still in a sleeping stage. Usually when you find yourself in SP you
have to concentrate to completely wake up so that you can move. To me
all it is is that you are waking up while youre still in SP. It happens to me
a lot when i fall asleep with the tv on, then the noise will wake me up when
its not entirely an opportune time to wake up, and im still in SP. I always
then have to concentrate to wake myself up fully.....or slip into a LD.
Thats wrong, You are infact awake in sleep paralysis, from what ive been told, or atleast in a state between being awake and asleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by supreme
I didn't say it was a lucid dream. I believe the thread is asking what do you experience prior to drifting into a lucid dreamQuote:
Originally Posted by Shift
I've been "lucid dreaming" my entire life and am not up on all the terminology. I've only lately found out that what I've been doing has a name. But if you're the word master, then I'm happy to concede the point that before entering a lucid dream I typically experience sleep paralysis
Yes, it is true you can be awake whilst in SP.
Ah well he asked "go into lucid mode" so I assumed he meant the exact moment of realizing lucidity, or "entering" a dream via WILD.Quote:
Originally Posted by dearly
Well, if you are going to be communicating with others on a website dedicated to lucid dreaming, you ought to know the basic terminology and vernacular to avoid such confusion. I'm not the word master, all of these are defined and available on many different pages about the site to try to keep everyone on the same bar. Not my fault if you don't do your reading. ;)
.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaLeB-
Thats what im saying!! Youre in between! If youre conscious of it, then youre in betweenQuote:
Originally Posted by Gez
wakefulness and sleeping! And its ideal for slipping into a lucid dream. I do it
all the time, so, its true! Believe it or not. :)
btw you guys said that you go into SP every night as well....so if you do, then you
must be totally asleep at times, because i sure as hell dont notice SP every single
night.....
omg... :doh:
There are a few exceptions, but for the majority of people...
Your body goes into REM atonia every time that you fall asleep so that you don't act out your dreams.
Sometimes you can keep your brain awake and conscious and experience going through it, in which case you are awake and experiencing SP. Sometimes you can even wait it out and start dreaming while your mind is awake. Hence, WILD. WAKE initiated lucid dream.
Sometimes you wake up, and your body is still in SP. It's the disconnect between your sleeping body and awake mind. Where ever it is that you want to cut that thin line between consciousness, awake, and asleep, whatever. Think about it: you have brief awakenings about 8 times a night. Now multiply that by 365 and then your current age. This is roughly how many times you have gone through SP. How many times do you remember it? That's because your mind was awake and your body mistakenly "thought" that you were asleep. The rest of them you were asleep already. This is what most people experience most of the time, except for a few oddball cases, and people who meditate and LD or whatever reason they sit around keeping their minds awake while their bodies fall asleep.
Everyone does it all the time, it's not hard to believe, and you are not special in any way. Believe it or not.
omg! :doh:
All you had to do in the first place was agree with me that SP can lead
to a lucid dream, because thats all i said in the first place. But you had
to give me the whole 'well thats like saying backing out of a driveway
is like driving on a highway'....its just a way to get there.' I didnt say SP
was a lucid dream...only just a way to get there. Why didnt you just agree
with me in the first place, like how youve just finally done, but not without
insulting me first though!
I feel about as special as a grain of sand in here!
Then the last post I quoted, the guy said 'you are in fact awake during
SP' so i said....well no you arent always awake.....just like you have just
said in depth. All you did was agree with me again!
This is what i had thought they meant as well! How you feel before you go into a lucid dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by dearly
This might sound weird, but everything becomes distant and disconnected. The feeling that if I turn around I'll just see blackness, or that the world ends 100 ft. in front of me. I'm in my own little bubble. o.O
Actually, we started out talking about two different things and I mistakenly thought that you were saying that when you first entered a lucid dream, you experienced SP, so I sought to clarify this. Obviously with such confusion you can't simply agree to something, otherwise I would be agreeing with something that I believe is false. Then you said that SP can lead to a lucid dream, and I said, obviously, just that they are not the same thing, because I did not realize that we were talking about two different "moments" in the "timespan" of WILDING (experiencing SP and THEN entering a lucid dream).Quote:
Originally Posted by supreme
Then regardless of what we thought we were talking about, you stated incorrect information that one is "obviously still asleep" while in SP. To be "awake" is literally to be "aware", so there is no in-between. You also seemed to express that you were not aware that one enters SP every time one goes to sleep, so I wanted to make sure that that was clear and that most of the time, people are not conscious while entering SP.
Anyway, enough hijacking this thread, if you want to talk about what SP is we can PM lol. I wish the OP would clarify if he wanted to know of our experiences prior to lucidity, or upon achieving lucidity, so I could answer his question properly :(
I get nauseous for a second some times, then it stabilizes and I am in a lucid dream.
I had no idea people experience an effect when they become lucid!! thats a new one
for me its just a realization. sometimes its slow like "wait a minute..this is odd..hmm...is this...ah..a dream? hmmm?" and it will take another minute or two to finally sink in. or it doesn't sink in at all.
othertimes is quick and sudden and I'm screaming "IM DREAMING!!" and I look around me a bit confused as if was transported into the twilight zone. though, nothing in the dream has actually changed. only my relation to it.
well, when i WILD, i get this feeling of kinda energy and then i fell myslef backwards through my bed in this like lean that goes past 90 degrees, then i tumble onto a dream floor and have to wait a few seconds for the dream to shape itself.
Shift, we didn't hijack a thread, we are discussing it. So just one more thing
I want to say. I've known for decades what SP is, long before I came in
here. It's what I used to first start LDing. Almost everyone on earth enters into
this state during REM sleep. If you happen to start waking up during REM sleep,
(sometimes from a noise, say) you could find yourself still in SP. I know this.
What I didnt know, was that apparently we all wake up for a second or so
in between REM stages of sleep. That is something I never notice.
When I'm aware that I'm in SP, I use it to lucid dream. This usually happens
to me right after I go to bed. There are some valid explanations for why I
sometimes go into REM sleep as fast as in 5 or 10 or 15 minutes after I go to
bed. When this happens I'm usually aware of it and aware that my body is also
going into SP very quickly (and like I think I've said before, it feels just like when
your foot falls asleep but it's your whole body...kind of tingly-like) and if I'm deep
enough into it, I immediately shift into LDing. If I'm not deep enough in when I
first realize whats going on, and I try to get into a LD...I'll usually wake up too soon,
not have a strong LD, or just fall asleep. From explanations I've heard in here, I
gather that means that I always WILD. But, I have no 'understanding' of when these
nights will happen. They are completely random. Even though I've been lucid dreaming
for a long, long time now, I don't believe I can initiate one purposely, and I would
indeed consider myself special if I could. Maybe someday I'll give it a try, but I've
always been satisfied by this way. Also, Sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of the
night for whatever reasons, still in SP and I'll lucid dream then also if I want to. I
have no idea what this is called, maybe that's the DILD, but I usually have no
recollection of the dream I was having before this. I only use it as before to
get into a LD. Sometimes though I want to wake up (pee) so I discard the LD
opportunity. Maybe it is still WILD though, because as you say, we are not
dreaming at this time....but waking up.
(I think the problem you and I were having, is that I always call the state of being
aware of SP, still dreaming. And that's only because SP is part of REM sleep and
dreaming......and it has to be at least a very small part of dreaming because
otherwise, how could I start a lucid dream from there if I were not? Once I'm
fully awake....I can never initiate a lucid dream from there. Unless I go back
into REM sleep again quickly and am aware of it, haha)
Ok that is all I wanted to say......lucidity is hard to explain in one or two words
but 'vivid' or even 'virtual realitity' are about as good as any words to explain it.
It feels like real life, but with out pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaLeB-
You have all the same feelings, taste, power, sound, sight, but no pain.
It's INSANE. There's really no way to describe it if you've never done it.