Isn't it funny how we usually put killing ourselves on our list of to-do lucid items?
It just seems as if our sense of self-preservation shuts down when we become completely in control.
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Isn't it funny how we usually put killing ourselves on our list of to-do lucid items?
It just seems as if our sense of self-preservation shuts down when we become completely in control.
I've never thought about doing that.. hmm
I thought you were going to say that we are all depressed or something.
Yep, sure is funny. I've done it. Stood in the path of an oncoming truck just to see what happened :boogie:Quote:
Originally Posted by marcc
It's never been on my "To-do list", but unfortunely has happened.
I jumped out of a skyscraper window, but I knew I wouldn't die, so I didn't.
It wasn't on my list when it first happend, but meh its another experience, so welcome <.<
wow good idea killing myself in a dream should be interesting
How can you expect self-preservation instincts to work if you know you're immortal.
Exactly Bonsay, they dont get in the way becuase in our dreams, we are immortal :) w00t!
I actually never have, it's not a goal of mine. I can think of so many things I'd rather do in a lucid than kill myself and risk waking up!
I've done it in regular dreams. (both been killed, and offed myself.)
But I never did it in a lucid... I figured it isn't worth it, since I've experienced it in a non-lucid.
I can't say it's on my list either.
OK, well, regardless of whether it is or is not on your list, doesn't it seem like such an interesting thing as to why people sometimes write that down?
Another question:
If we, as in everybody, were immortal, would we constantly try to kill ourselves, even if life was going well and we were at the apex of what it had to offer us?
never crossed my mind.
I've never died in a non-lucid either. What's it like?does it make you wake into another dream?
Im going to try NOT dieing. with all the crazy stuff im bound to do in a LD not dying would be an acomplishment.
We'd probably try it once or twice just to see what it was like (assuming no pain as well as being immortal). I'm guessing that's why people want to try it in their dreams as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by marcc
If you know you're immortal, why waste time trying to kill yourself?
Because time has no meaning.
Everything you've done, you're doing and you will do won't make a difference. They'd just be one incessant hum of experiences, right? I mean, if you're late to a meeting, so what? If you lasted to the end of infinity, then infinite meetings would have passed. It wouldn't make a difference.
That is to say, you would do everything inevitably. Even kill yourself. I guess :P
When I stood in front of the truck I did it just to see what would happen. I didn't have the intention of "killing myself" because I knew I couldn't die. I just wanted to see how my brain would play out the impact of a truck plowing into my body! :lol:
That's irrelevant. Humans(/-men?) have loads of instincts that we don't need, and we know that we don't need them. That dosn't mean they turn off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonsay
I wasn't talking about needing self preservation instincts, but about them not being present. I'm sitting on a chair right now, without "feeling" anything and I see it the same way when jumping off of skyscrapers without any fear at all. And I'm not talking about committing dream suicide either. There must be a reason why they are not active. The only thing I can think of is the way information is processed, which is as "non-hazardous" in both of those cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maeni
You can still get frightened in dreams though. It all depends on your perception of the situation.
Alright, then I just misunderstood it, I agree with what you say now.
It's like stabbing yourself with a fake knife, I'm guessing.
Yes, exactly. Since there are no consequences in dreams, we can consider them as fake realities. Although they diserve more than that :P
I die almost every night, wheter it be LD or regular dream.
I wonder what would Freud say...
Tell me about your mother?Quote:
Originally Posted by Unelias
:P
Might be. Yet, I doubt it is twisted enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonsay
But on the topic. It might be safe to say that we all think our mortality, at least when something happens that makes us remember that we all die. Of course, death has a large symbolism in dream study so figure that...
It probably has something to do with they "logic" part of your brain turning off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonsay
Does that make the death inaccurate, then?Quote:
Originally Posted by zildjohn01
No, I don't think it does. It's got something to do with the fact that you're dreaming. There is nothing illogical about flying in a dream and neither is jumping of a skyscraper. If my "logic" part of the brain was turned off, I probably wouldn't have been lucid in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by zildjohn01
As Maeni said. It's like stabbing yourself with a fake knife.