The only difference(for me) between dreaming of being lucid and actually being lucid is that in a lucid, I will feel that I have some level of control and I'm participating in all actions that I take during the dream. |
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And how is it different from a normal lucid dream? Is it the same as an uncontrolled lucid, or what? |
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The only difference(for me) between dreaming of being lucid and actually being lucid is that in a lucid, I will feel that I have some level of control and I'm participating in all actions that I take during the dream. |
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So, you consider it a dream about being lucid if you, that is, the thinking you, knows you are lucid, but just watches while your dream body wanders about through the dream? |
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Sometimes I know that I'm lucid. Other times it will be those dreams where something's happening and eventually the "screen" will zoom out and you realize you're watching a television or something. |
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Last edited by Higurashi; 03-05-2009 at 06:31 AM.
I also had once or twice this 'false-lucid dream'. It is actually a very, very strange thing and also difficult to dessribe. Imagine you are dreaming, and in this dream you are dreaming, too. A dream within a dream. And in this 'dream within a dream' you realise that it is a dream, but only with relation to the dream reality, not to the 'real' reality. You believe that reality is the dream world. |
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Last edited by Nick89; 03-05-2009 at 10:01 AM.
IMO a dream about being lucid is a dream where your dream self proclaims "Oh, it's just a dream, so __________" but you don't actually understand or comprehend what it means that it is just a dream- that you are dreaming, that nothing around you is real, that everything is potentially controllable, and that there are no consequences to your actions because you are in a dream. It's just a random statement of lucidity without you actually being lucid in a dream. A DC could shout it at you to the same effect, or actually probably with more effect because if a DC says it to you there's always the chance that you might reality check. |
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I agree with everything Shift has said. I just wanted to add that I find that there is a difference between "myself" in a dream and "my persona." By "persona" I refer to the character I am portraying in my dream, not myself but that's where my point of view currently is. I've had a dream where my persona knew she was in a dream, but I was not consciously aware that I was dreaming. That was the difference for me. |
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"If there was one thing the lucid dreaming ninja writer could not stand, it was used car salesmen."
Exactly. It's like watching a movie character go "Oh, I'm dreaming so this should work..." and you don't realize that it really is just something you're watching on a movie, and the implications, because you're so caught up in the story that you forget it's just on a screen. Even when I have personal awareness, just like I do now, I sometimes proclaim to know I'm dreaming without actually realizing or understanding that I'm dreaming. |
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Okay, that makes sense. Those are what I call uncontrolled lucids (is there any difference between these and what other people call uncontrolled lucids, or are they the same thing?) |
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You know, ever since I've come to Dream Views, I've been trying to wrap my head around this whole "dreaming of being lucid" thing that everyone keeps talking about. I've been pretty swayed toward the idea that there's really no such thing, and people are just confusing 0-to-low dream control over their own body and actions with not being lucid "enough" to count it as being lucid. The reason I've been thinking this, I gather, is because I don't have very many dreams or dream moments where I'm not in control of myself. I do have them, but they're definitely in the minority. Even in my non-lucids, I usually feel like I'm there and am making my own decisions (most of the time), so the idea of "knowing - and acting as if you know - you're dreaming, without being lucid" seemed kind of foreign to me. |
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This is exactly it! I've only ever had one dream of being lucid (although I've talked about lucid dreaming during NDs and I've also got into a bed during a dream and WILDed). |
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I think it's similar to insomniacs. Most insomniacs who claim they don't sleep a wink, when observed under laboratory conditions, were found to actually sleep soundly for most of the night, even though they would argue vehemently that they hadn't. At least until they were shown video of themselves sleeping. The conclusion they drew from this? They were dreaming that they were tossing and turning in bed! |
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That very question has had me pondering for a very long time. Then, a few days ago, for the very first time, I may have experienced it to a limited extent. Somehow I was in a dream, KNEW that I could hover for some reason yet did not go "Ah HA, I'm in a lucid dream" as I normally do. It was very strange and perhaps I was indeed dreaming that I was in a dream. That raises a question, |
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How about looking at it this way: |
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here is my example of a dream about being lucid |
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i have the same doubt as you before , i just had my first LD and i say lucid dreaming is when your dream is freewill being controlled at that moment! ok So basically to me , its just like the real world NOW but just in another different dimension. All past memories can affect my lucid dreaming. |
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