Lingering malevolent presence after Sp

Last night I had SP for the first time, a terryfying experience! I'll quote for my DJ:

"The next thing I know I was awake in my bed with my eyes closed. I heard this panting sound, like a dog but more grotesque and louder as though it came from a much larger creature. At this point I thought that I had had a false awakening and was still dreaming. I tried not to let the sound scare me, I told myself it was not real. But the sound got louder, the creature was coming in through my bedroom door and up towards my bed. I also felt some kind of malevolent presence in the room. I tried to lift my head to see the creature but I couldn't move and couldn't open my eyes. This heightened the sense of fear. My heart started beating really fast and suddenly I woke up in a cold sweat. I say woke up but the only thing that changed was that the panting stopped and I could move.

The worst part of this was that although the panting stopped I could still feel this ghost-like evil presence in the room. I RC'd and decided that I was fully awake (time was 23:30). I had to turn the light on and read a book to take my mind off it, but I was spooked, the evil spirit thing remained for the night, eventhough I was aware it was only a figment of my subconscious. This was all quite unsettling for me as I haven't had a proper nightmare since I was a child."

After reading more about SP I have decided this was not in fact a false awakening but hypnapomic hallucination with SP.

Does anyone else have the evil presence still in the room after awakening?
Anyone know how to make it go away or deal with it?

This happened to me a lot when I was a kid. I woke up with that presence in my room which scared the sh*t out of me. I found out that if I start jumping up and down, or wash my face with cold water, it will go away.

Oh, and it's hypnopompic, with an O.

the first time i experienced SP i was in a dream where i was in japan, and everyone there was waiting for some evil spirit to arrive. the people near me started saying that it was getting closer - i could feel the tension and the fear caused by the spirit. then i woke up in SP right on the verge of the thing appearing - i felt like it was almost there with me. i started to move my hand and forced myself to move...

i don't know if there's any way to deal with it - my LD technique doesn't involve SP so it's not a concern for me. i guess just kind of "be with your fear" until it dissipates.

SP can be frightening. Hypnogagic sensations can seem very real. There is no real presence in your room. What has happened is: Your first ever experience with SP and hypnagogic imagery, you had an experience at least as scary as any one I've ever had. I suppose you could call that the luck of the draw.

I have only had to SP twice and it was during my research on what had just happened that I discovered LDing and was taken away by this concept.

Anyway back on topic. SPs tend to follow night terrors which are notably different from nightmares. Night terrors are typically threatening or traumatising scenarios which will usually cause you to awake in an abrupt and dramatic manner. SP is a typical reaction though I tend to awake soaking wet in my own sweat.

I do not remember what I was dreaming first time as I was not recording my dreams then. But I do remember the dream which led to my 2nd episode of SP and from what I can discern the emotions of fear, evil entity and so on during the SP were identical to the emotions experienced in last few seconds of dreaming. The funny thing is that dream was all in the third person and I was not present as a participant. However the scenario was bleak and science-fiction like ( involved time travel gone wrong ) and the sense of fear seem to part of the dream and not so much by reaction to the dream.

Sorry for length but you will properly have a few more in the next couple of weeks.

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Originally Posted by ValkyrieChosen

I have only had to SP twice and it was during my research on what had just happened that I discovered LDing and was taken away by this concept.

Anyway back on topic. SPs tend to follow night terrors which are notably different from nightmares. Night terrors are typically threatening or traumatising scenarios which will usually cause you to awake in an abrupt and dramatic manner. SP is a typical reaction though I tend to awake soaking wet in my own sweat.

I do not remember what I was dreaming first time as I was not recording my dreams then. But I do remember the dream which led to my 2nd episode of SP and from what I can discern the emotions of fear, evil entity and so on during the SP were identical to the emotions experienced in last few seconds of dreaming. The funny thing is that dream was all in the third person and I was not present as a participant. However the scenario was bleak and science-fiction like ( involved time travel gone wrong ) and the sense of fear seem to part of the dream and not so much by reaction to the dream.

Sorry for length but you will properly have a few more in the next couple of weeks.

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Your post doesn't answer his question. He asked about the presence after SP not during SP.

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Originally Posted by yellowlight

Your post doesn't answer his question. He asked about the presence after SP not during SP.

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0.o seems a bit hard. I think what I said was very useful in explaining exactly where any post-dreaming anxiety probably comes from. and the simple answer if you're desperate for it is YES. for me such sensations are not unique to SP and in my experience disappear within about 30 minutes as one becomes increasingly tired and more concerned with getting back to sleep.

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Originally Posted by ValkyrieChosen

0.o seems a bit hard. I think what I said was very useful in explaining exactly where any post-dreaming anxiety probably comes from.

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Ah, I'm sorry for my foolishness, but I'm really tired right now (it's 12:11 AM here) and I don't really get what people are saying. :oops:

Thanks for the replies.

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Originally Posted by yellowlight

I found out that if I start jumping up and down, or wash my face with cold water, it will go away.

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I'll try that if it happens again. But actually I have the feeling that, for me at least, there is probably nothing much I can do about it. Maybe I'll just have to learn to "be with my fear" as Cygnus said.

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Originally Posted by cygnus

i don't know if there's any way to deal with it - my LD technique doesn't involve SP so it's not a concern for me.

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Do you think the SP may have been brought on by the fact that I was doing a WILD exercise before I went to sleep? I knew you could go through SP before you became lucid with WILD. But this was as I was awakening from a dream. Maybe I'll avoid WILD if it keeps leading to these SP terrors. But that would be annoying as so far the closest I've come to achieving lucidity has been with WILD.

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Originally Posted by ValkyrieChosen

SPs tend to follow night terrors which are notably different from nightmares. Night terrors are typically threatening or traumatising scenarios which will usually cause you to awake in an abrupt and dramatic manner.

Sorry for length but you will properly have a few more in the next couple of weeks.

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Interestingly I did have a dream with a threatening scenario at some point before I woke in SP. See my DJ for the full description:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...60#post1092660

I do get the feeling I will be having more of these in these experiences in the future and I'm not relishing the prospect!

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Originally Posted by yellowlight

Your post doesn't answer his question. He asked about the presence after SP not during SP.

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I would suggest you're just spooked.

I imagine that full blown SP is pretty distressing, its going to leave its mark on your mind afterwards.

Just try to remember that there is no real "presence".
Its all just a figment of your imagination.