Basic lucid help...

So I've been trying to become lucid in my dreams since I was 21 (I'm 30 now), and nothing seems to work.

I've tried music, brainwave voyages, metatolin, everything almost under the sun, but while dreaming, I find myself stubborn, or always 'sticking to the story' even if something seems odd or out of place that tells me I MUST be dreaming, I just shrug it off, then kick myself in the backside when I wake up.

It's getting frustrating.

I don't have the patience for a dream log, because I always forget to write important information down every morning, then I end up forgetting it.


I've got the idea that maybe I can't become lucid. Every night I go to sleep thinking, I will become lucid, I will become lucid. When I see my girlfriend, that will be an indication that I'm dreaming" and when I see her in my dream, nothing. Continues the story.

Anyone got any ideas on what I can try?

Thanks everyone.

I think really focusing on one specific technique might help you, sounds like you're kind of bouncing around and bearing yourself down with a lot of techniques at once. Maybe this is a wrong interpretation?

Also sounds like you're focusing only on DILDs. Have you ever tried to WILD?
As far as DILDs, I recommend trying to figure out which technique might be easiest for you. Choose one that sounds good to you, that you think will work, and just start working hard and keeping up with it. Not all induction techniques require a dream journal, though keeping one as often as you're able is helpful.

This is how I DILD. I don't know if it's any help to you, but that's basically my daily regime and so far has proved to be relatively successful compared to the other things I've tried. I think one of the most important things is just sticking with whatever you decide for a while. Try to keep it up for at least a month, don't give up after a few nights of failure. Just like any other hobby, LDing will take concentrated practice. I know you said you've been trying for 9 years, so again forgive me if my interpretation is off!

Wow, nine years is a while to go without having a lucid. But there are some things to consider. For one, it very may well be that you just haven't tried the right techique and not that you are incapable of luciding. Secondly, you may have had a lucid and not remembered it! Hows your dream recall? Pushing past your logging problems and consistently keeping a dream journal anyway sure would help improve that recall.

Personally, I think that we have two dream mind-sets. One is this go with the flow attitude- like watching a movie almost or following a script- where you aren't really making choices. The other is a more conciouss mind-set. You are aware, you are yourself. The nature of lucid induction lies in breaking the first mind-set in my opinion.

I only bring this up because it seems as if your problem would be explained by this theory and if you are interested I go into it in greater detail and describe a type of reality check designed to solve your very problem. It's right here if you want to read it.

Other than that, I don't know what to say except try to encourage you to keep trying as long as you want to be lucid- I see no reason why one person could become lucid and another person couldn't. And hey, once you make it through your first LD you will have the benefit of overcoming great obstacles getting your lucids and so you will be able to better help people with similar problems.

I hope I helped.
~Spockman