Do you think im a Dedicated Dreamer?

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10-04-2009, 07:59 PM
daniel3466

Do you think im a Dedicated Dreamer?

hello dream viewers

Iv only had one lucid dream, :(
and i CRAVE MOAR!
lol
i know you say i dont need all these electronic devices to have LD's but they cant do harm!
so i have done the fallowing

I got the Nova Dreamer, It will Be here Monday or Tuesday

I got the Mindmaster, to help my MILDS,

I got some Pills to help Vividness,

And a "shit Pot" full of bookies,

So once it ALL gets here il be LUCID by the end of the year

YAY

fyi
here are the link and prices

Books Cost 50$ for 10 different books
Nova Dreamer 309 off Ebay( sold out now)
Dream Pill 60 pills for 40$ ( http://www.brilliantdreams.com )
MindMaster for 40$ ( https://www.mindmaster.tv )

STAY ON TOPIC!
do you think im a Dedicated dreamer?

P.S here is the link to the Original Nova dreamer site, there discontinued
http://www.lucidity.com/novadreamer.html
10-04-2009, 08:10 PM
Maria92

Great schnikies! Wow...I'd have to say that all of that is really kind of unnecessary. You're definitely dedicated, that's for sure...

I dunno, I had my first lucid using only reality checks, mantras, and a dreamjournal. But, to each his own...I certainly hope that all of this works for you! Good luck!
10-04-2009, 08:14 PM
daniel3466

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Originally Posted by Mario92

Great schnikies! Wow...I'd have to say that all of that is really kind of unnecessary. You're definitely dedicated, that's for sure...

I dunno, I had my first lucid using only reality checks, mantras, and a dreamjournal. But, to each his own...I certainly hope that all of this works for you! Good luck!

yeah well i figured since i loved dreams so much and i had the money

I sad out loud

And ins uncensored

"Why The Hell Not"
:boogie: lol :boogie:

And why you call me a Nub Mario!?!?!? lol
hehe
10-04-2009, 08:31 PM
StrangeDreamsGuy

I wouldn't trust "dream pills", but other than that good work.
Grats on finally having an LD Mario!
10-04-2009, 08:54 PM
Maria92

Thanks, SDG! Still haven't seen much of you lately...busy?
10-04-2009, 09:36 PM
daniel3466

lol Off topic
10-05-2009, 03:32 AM
gameover

Dedication is not money but time. Of course if you spend a lot of time reading these books, writing your dreams down, and practicing techniques, then they should help. No substitute for time though. Practice anything 2,000 times and you will master it. If you're trying consistently, you might feel like it's not working but its a slow process for your mind to fully learn something new. But It is working. Whatever you do in life, practice 'til you die.
10-05-2009, 03:49 AM
imj

A dedicated dreamer is not just lucid dreaming but is one that is willing to invest his/her time into finding out more about the structure of his/her dreams because each person's dream structure and formation differs quite a bit. You can't have LDs just because you want to have them like as though it is on display in the window of a shop. It needs time, patience and once you get the know how of your dream structure and formative routine you can create your own technique to have LDs. You also need to know how responsive your subconcious is to which stimulus like maybe it's more responsive to music, what genre of music or maybe it's more visual..etc. Some can dream of elements from reading posts on Dreamviews but I can't, it has to be visual to get something in the dream. Knowing more about your dreams you can roughly guage what media to use to get your idea of LDing and RC through. Using technology in my expereince causes anxiety and makes falling asleep and dreaming harder because it may intefere with dream recall and other aspects of dreaming.

IMJ
10-05-2009, 04:02 AM
StrangeDreamsGuy

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Originally Posted by Mario92

Thanks, SDG! Still haven't seen much of you lately...busy?

Busy with cheating forums and other more serious business :(
10-05-2009, 04:35 AM
Maria92

Crap, that sucks. I kinda know how you feel...I should be working on my MOUNTAIN of homework right now...
10-05-2009, 05:23 AM
Conkt

Personally, I think you squandered your money. Only time will tell, but I don't think these purchases will help much. And "dream pills"? Do you even know what's in them? Probably just B6.
10-05-2009, 05:33 AM
Hidden

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrangeDreamsGuy

I wouldn't trust "dream pills", but other than that good work.

Dream pills are legit, but you definitely want to research them before committing to one. Otherwise you never know what's in them and if it will actually help you.

I think buying all that stuff was unnecessary; you really don't need anything to induce a lucid dream. A better approach might have been to reality check/dream journal for awhile and then later experiment with additional stuff. I also think you should have started with just one at a time, but to each his own I suppose.

I agree with Gameover, all of these extra things will be useless if you don't dedicate time to learning how to LD. It sounds like you're pretty dedicated though. I just don't want you to be under the impression that you can buy lucid dreams. You can buy stuff to assist your lucid attempts, but they won't work unless you put in the effort.
10-05-2009, 05:35 AM
daniel3466

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conkt

Personally, I think you squandered your money. Only time will tell, but I don't think these purchases will help much. And "dream pills"? Do you even know what's in them? Probably just B6.

http://www.brilliantdreams.com/produ...supplement.htm i know whats in it and you have your own option

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mario92

Crap, that sucks. I kinda know how you feel...I should be working on my MOUNTAIN of homework right now...

OFFFFFFFF TOOOOOPPPPPIC

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrangeDreamsGuy

Busy with cheating forums and other more serious business :(

OFFFFFFFF TOOOOOPPPPPIC

Quote:

Originally Posted by imj

A dedicated dreamer is not just lucid dreaming but is one that is willing to invest his/her time into finding out more about the structure of his/her dreams because each person's dream structure and formation differs quite a bit. You can't have LDs just because you want to have them like as though it is on display in the window of a shop. It needs time, patience and once you get the know how of your dream structure and formative routine you can create your own technique to have LDs. You also need to know how responsive your subconcious is to which stimulus like maybe it's more responsive to music, what genre of music or maybe it's more visual..etc. Some can dream of elements from reading posts on Dreamviews but I can't, it has to be visual to get something in the dream. Knowing more about your dreams you can roughly guage what media to use to get your idea of LDing and RC through. Using technology in my expereince causes anxiety and makes falling asleep and dreaming harder because it may intefere with dream recall and other aspects of dreaming.

IMJ

We see some things different and some things the same, they cant do that bad and can do some good

Quote:

Originally Posted by gameover

Dedication is not money but time. Of course if you spend a lot of time reading these books, writing your dreams down, and practicing techniques, then they should help. No substitute for time though. Practice anything 2,000 times and you will master it. If you're trying consistently, you might feel like it's not working but its a slow process for your mind to fully learn something new. But It is working. Whatever you do in life, practice 'til you die.

If i die tomorrow let it be known i died in a lucid mother fucking dream,

Daniel Bitches
:banana::boogie::banana:
10-05-2009, 07:38 AM
ClouD

Daniel, please take a breath if it will help with releasing the shift key. "All caps" implies shouting on the internet, and is frowned upon in many communities, including this one.

If something goes lightly off-topic that is perfectly acceptable, it only becomes a problem when it goes too far, of which the staffing team here is plenty capable to decide.
As for you wanting it to stay strcitly on-topic, there's not much freedom to reply. If you wanted a strict yes/no adherence then you should have added a poll.

I personally don't think you're dedicated to lucid dreaming just by buying products at all, I just think you're wasting money for your intents.

The dream pills contain Galantamine, vitamin B, Choline and Melatonin. Nothing special, overly priced. I hope they don't get the patent on it, it's not something that hasn't been done before.
10-05-2009, 01:24 PM
daniel3466

Cloud mario is my friend so please dont, if you read all of it we where joking up above, and in others he helped me out, so please it was a countue of a joke .

And two im sure i know what is in it and sure it probly over priced, who cares, i have the money, if you OR other memebers dont, thats not my falt, im doing this to improve my ld

Too long of a story, may put it up later, but lets say dreaming is all i have

CAP CAP CAP,
lol that was a joke to, sorry
10-05-2009, 04:35 PM
Snowy Egypt

I don't think it's so much as dedication as it is just really wanting to have an LD. But I agree that I think you're going about it the wrong way. You've mentioned everything you've bought, but just what are you practicing? Unless you actually have some sort of game plan, using the Nova Dreamer and popping pills while hoping for the best will only get you so far. Reading books will help though, so some of your money wasn't completely spent on "hit-or-miss" items.

Of course, none of these item will be hit-or-miss if you have some structure to go with them.
10-05-2009, 04:40 PM
daniel3466

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

I don't think it's so much as dedication as it is just really wanting to have an LD. But I agree that I think you're going about it the wrong way. You've mentioned everything you've bought, but just what are you practicing? Unless you actually have some sort of game plan, using the Nova Dreamer and popping pills while hoping for the best will only get you so far. Reading books will help though, so some of your money wasn't completely spent on "hit-or-miss" items.

Of course, none of these item will be hit-or-miss if you have some structure to go with them.

thats a whole diffrent story! this is just saying what i bought to help out my tech!

i have been MILD every night for 3 mouths
and Wild every once and awhile

I also Got my self used to looking at my hands( RC )
every hour
10-05-2009, 04:42 PM
flight

A dedicated dreamer isn't shown by buying all these products, how do we know your not going through a faze to find a quick fix or something. Im a little worried if they don't have the desired effect your wanting or expect it may set you back or cause you to give up.

To me a dedicated dreamer would show a persistance to keep at it even after failure, day after day after year after year. Have the patience if things aren't working out the way you expected them, and you haven't had a LD for a month, but your still sticking in there and never giving up, that shows dedication.. and in spite of everything going on around you your keeping your focus on becoming lucid. Practicing your RC's, awareness and not becoming lazy, keeping an up to date dream journal and getting better every day. They are the three P's of success lol.
You have shown your enthusiasm by buying all those products and your love for lucid dreaming, but not yet dedication and thats a completely different thing.
Good on you for having the money to buy all those products;), however they are definitely not necessary. But you never no.. some may help you get started, speed things up a bit and of cause it's your money.:)
10-05-2009, 06:00 PM
Snowy Egypt

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel3466

thats a whole diffrent story! this is just saying what i bought to help out my tech!

i have been MILD every night for 3 mouths
and Wild every once and awhile

I also Got my self used to looking at my hands( RC )
every hour

You have had MILDs every night for 3 months, or you've been trying to MILD every night for 3 months?

This is what also worries me as well:

Quote:

Originally Posted by flight

A dedicated dreamer isn't shown by buying all these products, how do we know your not going through a faze to find a quick fix or something. Im a little worried if they don't have the desired effect your wanting or expect it may set you back or cause you to give up.

I understand that you are practicing some kind of method. Your first post led me (and maybe the others) to think otherwise, which is why we're just making sure that you understand that aids by themselves will only do so much.
10-05-2009, 11:35 PM
Conkt

I find it strange that you ask for our opinions, and when we give them you shoot us down. I think you really just wanted us to say "You're cool" and "you're loaded! Awesome!" seems like you're just trying to justify your acts. And don't take that attitude with ClouD. You don't dis people with 200 times as many posts as you, and indefinitely more experience.
10-05-2009, 11:49 PM
gameover

Conkt is right.

And this whole topic is incredibly narcissistic.
10-06-2009, 12:06 AM
Robot_Butler

Brilliant Dreams pills are legit. They are galantamine/ choline with some B6. It is a good mix, and tons of people use them. For best results, do a 30-60 minute Wake Back To Bed with the dream pills. Wake up after 4 or 5 hours of sleep. Dissolve the dream pill in a small glass of water, then chug it. Stay awake doing something chill and low-light for about 30 to 60 minutes, then use the bathroom and return to bed do do a WILD.

It sounds like you're like me. Sometimes, when I'm starting something new, I will buy a bunch of crap to keep me excited and motivated. I figure, if I have all these new toys, I will stay excited longer, and feel more committed. It doesn't work for everyone, and I know most people don't recommend it. It works for me, though. Plus, it is fun to get new toys :D
10-06-2009, 12:09 AM
Hidden

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Originally Posted by gameover

Conkt is right.

Yes he is.