dreams and dimensions

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10-20-2009, 01:43 AM
~kira~

dreams and dimensions

well. I have known about lucid dreaming for quite a while now through a good friend of mine and recently I have began studieing string theory and M-theory and wonder if anyone els has noticed that the dream realm is a lot like what traveling through higher dimensions might be like? I mean. you can travel through time. alter physics. and things are never change, witch would mean that you are always traveling through higher dimensions. I am just kinda curious on what other people think because I am thinking their might be some sort of conection between the two.... but then again they might be completely unrelated. but anyways. give me your thoughts on this topic. I am kind of curious on other peopls opinions. and if you don't know about higher dimensions just go through google and stuff. should take long to figure out.
10-20-2009, 01:52 AM
Conkt

I guess you could say that. It's more like being god though. I think string theory is bull, but that might just be me.
10-20-2009, 01:53 AM
~kira~

I am not saying it is true or not. I am just wondering if anyone here think that their might be some sort of conection. I dunno why but I am just wondering
10-20-2009, 02:43 AM
Maria92

Yeah, I think not. Occam's razor, mate. Solution with the fewest variables is usually correct. Could be that we're traveling through higher dimensions while we sleep, or it could just be that neurons are firing within our brains, as usual. I'd have to say there's no relation.
10-20-2009, 02:50 AM
~kira~

eh. I guess. but I ain't so easy to just accept that lol. I have never been the person to just accept something or settle so easily. or even follow the flow. its pplz that think differently that discover the new :D. but yeah. I guess I will do my own investigating and whatever. I kinda think that maybe it might even be a realation as simpla as our mind is trying to travle through these higher dimensions and it can only recreate the reality. but. whatever I guess :\. still. I wana know what other ppl think
10-20-2009, 03:20 AM
Conkt

Yeah, it's extremely unlikely that the mind travels through other dimensions during sleep. Mankind has the strange tendency to make stuff up to explain things they don't understand. Hence religion.
10-20-2009, 08:19 PM
Baron Samedi

What I think is irrelevant, or what anyone else thinks as far as opinions. I know what I believe based on personal experience. What I believe is extremely controversial, but I have always been this way.

Go to other dimensions in your dreams, and then ask yourself what you think.
10-23-2009, 05:30 AM
CanceledCzech

Quote:

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

What I think is irrelevant, or what anyone else thinks as far as opinions. I know what I believe based on personal experience. What I believe is extremely controversial, but I have always been this way.

Go to other dimensions in your dreams, and then ask yourself what you think.

Listen to this man.
10-23-2009, 05:34 AM
Conkt

Why? If he thinks that thought is irrelevant, is it?
10-23-2009, 06:18 AM
CanceledCzech

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman

You might want to read that.

In any case, whether or not thought is relevant is an entirely different story.
10-23-2009, 06:41 AM
White horse

Hi Kira,

Why don't you practice lucid dreaming yourself? With all the theories you are learning now you'll have enough information to build yourself a great dream. I think the answers you then get will be more relevant then the answers of some dreamers on this forum.

And you are incorrect that lucid dreamers can easy fly to other dimensions etc. It take a lot of practice to do stuff like that.

Good luck, I can recommend LD for yourself
10-23-2009, 08:25 AM
JamesLD

id have to say the dream world is another dimension
10-23-2009, 04:10 PM
Maria92

I've really got to disagree with James here...

I've got to say that dreaming is little more than your subconscious creating sensory experiences for you. It has been proven that mice and other small, simple mammals dream, usually about things they've "learned" during the day. Really, as a firm believer in Occam's Razor, it seems much more plausible that dreaming is a series of chemical reactions taking place within your brain, rather than a manifestation of pure consciousness wandering through multiple dimensions...

Also, the dreams and dream control capacities of individuals change widely with the activity of their imaginations. If we were all to wander through the same dimensions, we should all have similar dreams and dream control abilities. For example, if we were to wander through dimensions where gravity does not exist, it should be that everyone can fly, but some struggle with this. I dunno...just putting in my two cents.
10-23-2009, 04:15 PM
CanceledCzech

And I would have to say, how can either of you know for sure?
10-23-2009, 04:19 PM
Maria92

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanceledCzech

And I would have to say, how can either of you know for sure?

We can't. Technically, we can't be sure of anything at all. But, that's another debate...

Although it is impossible to be certain, if you take Occam's Razor to the whole affair (the simplest solution is usually correct), it seems far more plausible that dreaming is little more than a series of chemical reactions within the brain. Besides, if our minds were free to wander through dimensions without being tethered to the body, why do so many people sleepwalk/act out their dreams/talk in their sleep, etc?
10-23-2009, 04:49 PM
White horse

Well, how will you define dimension? And what about conciousness? Only because the different interpretation this discussion will never end.

I have done some mind blowing drugs and therefore my opinion about dimensions is different than people who didn't.

I don't believe dreams are dimensions. I do believe you can use dreams to explore other dimensions. Just because we are not always aware of different dimensions but they are here, all the time. Our brains contains very ancient (primitive), behaviour, or memories. Just like the fight/ flight response. It could be that different dimensions are also stored which van be accesed by dreams. An other sense is also posible. We are only what our senses tell us. But what would the world be if we had more or less senses then these 5?
This is not all.
10-24-2009, 12:03 AM
Conkt

The definition of dimension is the number of Axes an object or space has.

This, btw, is a 4D shape: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ame_8-cell.png

When people describe something as "another dimension", what they are actually saying is "I don't know what I'm talking about, so here's a fancy word"

It is possible, however, to understand other dimensions in dreams. Because it is happening in your mind, you need not your 3d eyes, and so can "see" x-Dimensional objects.

With this being said, one cannot, physically or otherwise, go to a different dimensions, as dimensions are not places in and of themselves. Listen to Mario, he has a good head.

That is all.