Does it feel that real?
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Does it feel that real?
I havn't seen vanilla sky but your dreams are incredibly vivid and realistic with complete control if you practice enough. A reason you lose lucidity which is very commen is because it seems so real you forget it's a dream.
no
tom cruise didn't know he was dreaming during most of the movie therefore it wasn't lucid.
i liked the movie anyway tho :P
maybe the last scene of Vanilla Sky. (when he's on the rooftop).
But it is not like the rest of vanilla sky, where it was like a nightmare for him, and you didn't know what was going on.
But yes lucid dreaming does feel very real.
Feels just like real life
I believe it only feels real because your mind is free thinking and all knowledge of reality goes out the window. I've had dreams where I could fly, or have super strength, or breathe underwater, and never even had a second thought of "I can't do this in RL" lol (The breathing underwater thing I had when I was younger and I actually tried while in a pool [in my dream it was more like a fish opening its mouth and I breathed that way, so when I was actually in a pool, I just did the motions like a fish and it didn't work, but I could've sworn it was real]). However, that's the trick to becoming lucid is to recognize that what your doing doesn't make sense and that you must be dreaming
In Vanilla Sky, it was technology that induced tom cruise into the dream. it was so vidid for him that he thought it was real, yes you could call it a dream, but as stated above because he didnt know it was a dream you cannot call it lucid. but i still think it is, i think because he is conscious and believes everything is real, he is lucid. you'll notice he did some reality checks of his own. e.g. he looked at penelope cruz, looked away, and when he looked back it was cameron diaz. then when he looked in the mirror, he was deformed, and when he looked back, he was normal. pretty cool eh. he even had a dream guide!
You'll also notice that it wasn't until the end of the film, when he finally realises he is in a dream, he has complete control of it. the same for us when we become lucid. anything before that final scene was his subconsious creating a dream for him. then, like ourselves, he realises he is in a dream and takes control.
these are some good points also, especially the first sentence. A lucid dream doesn't involve paying to be frozen in a cryogenic chamber.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reno
I'd compare LD-ing more to the matrix. You realise everything around you is fake, and you are "the one", all powerful and in charge.
mmmmm would agree to an extent yuri. with the matrix, although the likes of morpheus trinity etc. etc. knew that the matrix wasn't real, they still had to act by certain physical and gravitational rules. they couldnt do anything that was impossible really, e.g. fly. neo of course was an enomoly, he was the only one that could bend the rules of the matrix. with vanilla sky, ONCE tom cruise realised he was in the dream, as told by his dream guide, he had control of his destiny, and finally chose to wake up. i loved the "vanilla sky" in that ending scene, beautiful.
oh sorry, i reread your post, forgot you were just talking about neo. sorry!
Well I'm watching it right now and will reply in a moment (well, an hour really)
More or less, yes. It is the same as it was in the movie. The concept is the same (once he came to realize it was all an illusion, he was free to take the reins), and the level of vividness is often the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Griever Sol
I say "often" because, like with non-lucid dreams, it varies - just like waking world consciousness. When you are awake, you experience the feeling of reality in different stages. You have the groggy, just barely awake, fuzzy-headed experience; and then you have the wide-awake, just ran a marathon and are full of adrenaline level of reality, in which everything is much more vivid and vibrant. The level of detail in dreams (both lucid and non-) vary, just the same.
hey, how long is this movie? I'm watching it online and it only says 1:02:24
Okay, I got a bad site as it only showed half of the movie. Anyone know where I can find this online?
Just watch the ending god damn it.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lucidness
is that where a bulk of the dreaming occurs? because halfway through not much of it was actually dreaming. And I WISH I could watch the ending but I could only see first half (for free that is)
The hole in the plot of vanilla Sky is why didn't he have his memory of the car crash erased? Without that memory his dream life would've been a lot happier.
The Matrix is the best metaphor. At fist when lucid dreaming you may be like Morpheus or Trinity or other characters. It may take some practice to become Neo and be "the one".
I like the art work of "Waking Life". I think it portrays dreaming and even lucid dreaming very well.
Yeah, seriously. If you are looking for the most accurate (IMHO) depiction of what lucid dreaming and dream control is like, watch the Matrix trilogy. It's practically identical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut
I seem to recall hearing about a movie called "the good night" which had to do with lucid dreaming