Skipping the "A-ha!" moment

**Xedan** · 01-26-2010 02:00 AM

Last night in my dream I jumped off a cliff. I then saw I was going to hit the ground, and decided to change my trajectory to a deep pool of water. Then I thought "If this was a whirlpool, where would I end up after getting sucked down?" After being submerged a while i the whirlpool, I think I may have started to wake up. So before the dream even ended I started trying to do a DEILD. Eventually I gave up, but I never actually remembered waking from that attempt. It may have just led out of the dream and into NREM.

My point of posting this is that throughout the experience I had a very strong atmosphere of lucidity about me, and I exerted far more dream control than I ever had. But I never remember actually realizing I was dreaming or even doing an RC. I don't remember how I got to the cliff, because right before that all I remember is an explosion in the last scene. So is it possible to skip the moment of realization and transition smoothly into lucidity, or is it possible I may have just not remembered my "A-ha" moment but remembered what happened after, or did I possibly just have a dream about bream control? I felt the need to ask because I feel equally pulled toward each conclusions.

**Xedan** · 01-26-2010 03:09 AM

Okay, so that's one possibility down. Now I just need to know if it's possible to not remember the realization. Normally it is the opposite for me, I will remember only the "A-ha" moment and nothing else of that dream. But the thing keeping me from thinking it was dreaming of dream control is that the second I started to lose clarity I started trying to do a DEILD.

**nina** · 01-26-2010 03:12 AM

Crap. I didn't mean to delete my post! Sorry.

**nina** · 01-26-2010 03:14 AM

I think it is very reasonable to think that you may have forgotten that moment. I know that I have done so many times. You are so INTO the dream, and then you are on varying levels of lucidity and conscious awareness...sometimes things happen and you end up lucid somewhere, having no memory of how you got there. Sometimes I have had to stop and wonder, after waking up, at what part did I become lucid? And I do often forget. So that's normal.

The brain is operating in such short term memory, its so easy to forget things. Maybe it just wasn't as big of an "a-ha" moment...maybe we only remember the really special ones? lol

**Xedan** · 01-26-2010 04:06 AM

Well that's entirely possible. I could have just forgotten whole lucids just as often as I only remember the realizations.

**EspadaInMyCloset** · 01-26-2010 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by Xedan

Well that's entirely possible. I could have just forgotten whole lucids just as often as I only remember the realizations.

That happens to me a lot as well. You're going crazy on the control factor, and it's just there, and you don't know how you got there.

**MementoMori** · 01-26-2010 05:11 AM

funny thing i had my second "Ah-ha!" ever about three nights ago, I usually become lucid within the first couple seconds of my dreams, usually because i remember going to sleep and never wake up and wonder how i got to where i am and then i just understand i'm dreaming and take it from there. Although, the other night i was dreaming and wasn't lucid, i believed my dream until something stupid happened and i literaly screamed "I'm Dreaming!" the lucidity lasted only about thirty seconds later...

**nina** · 01-26-2010 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by MementoMori

i believed my dream until something stupid happened and i literaly screamed "I'm Dreaming!" the lucidity lasted only about thirty seconds later...

Oh...I am notorious (uh, amongst my DCs I guess) for acting like a complete fool upon realization that I'm dreaming. I have done some really stupid and silly things when I become lucid, lol. Whatever, it's mah dream! I'll be a dork if I want to be.

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