Is entrainment usefull? Have you tried it?
Seeker i know you are into this and i will be gratefull if you tell me what you lerned from your experience.
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Is entrainment usefull? Have you tried it?
Seeker i know you are into this and i will be gratefull if you tell me what you lerned from your experience.
You mean all that programs and devices that produce a white noise of specific frequency?
I'm trying one now.
Me too. I used a deep meditation one while reading the forum to see if it would mess me up and I felt REALLY weired and had a headache, which happens rarely.
What exaclty is a white noise generator??
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Anyone who does will end up smelling.
Knowing this, why do I defy? Because my inner voice is yelling.
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white noise is like the fuzzy sound when you are not tuned on a radio station.
I've tried brainwave entrainment with bineural beats. It seemed to be really effective. (I tried using the tones for lsd, and the noises change... I went to play on the drums right afterwards and my snare was extra toingy!)
Sorry I took so long to respond on this one.
Brainwave entrainment works something like this:
It is impossible for the human ear to detect sounds less than 20 hz or so.
It is in this range that many interesting brainwave frequencies lie, so...
You put a sound at say 220 hz in one ear and one at 224hz in the other ear. The brain combines these frequencies and generates a beat frequence at about 4 hz, which by the way is right about Theta for most people.
You can find more info at www.bwgen.com
I've had some success with this when using frequencies to enter alpha or theta. One time, when using theta frequencies, around 4.7 hz, I could swear I heard people talking. It freaked me out, so I pulled the headphones and the voices went away.
Get a copy of bwgen if you haven't already and play around with it.
Warning though. If you are epileptic, stay away from it as it could cause seizures.
Good Luck!
It can be very useful, for many differnet purposes.Quote:
Originally posted by adroid28
Is entrainment usefull? Have you tried it?
Seeker i know you are into this and i will be gratefull if you tell me what you lerned from your experience.
For instance, if you have difficultly maintaining your concentration (leaning towards attention deficit disorder), entraining at 14 Hz will reduce the amount of Theta in your waking state brainwave pattern and allow you to focus more intently. (Usually the arousal frequncies in the Alpha band have more pronounced benefits.) One good side effect is that these changes are permanent.
Another good use comes in reprogramming the brain to enter a trance state much more quickly. (You can achieve a state of trance in a few minutes what meditators take a lifetime to achieve!)
For those who don't know what it is, it is applying a stero signal to each ear, slightly out of phase. IE, in the left ear you might play a 240 Hz tone, in the right a 236 Hz tone. Both signals are then processed in the brainstem, mixed and a seperate 4 Hz signal is then produced. This happens at a point in brain where both halves 'think' they each created the signal and beging to sync with this new 4 Hz signal. This forces both halves of the brain into phase with each other and the brain will move to the state of consciousness that the binaural signal represents.
There is a theory that the brain operates around a base 40 Hz. At each subharmonic of 40 Hz. (1/4 wave = 10 Hz, 1/8 wave = 5 Hz, etc.) certain specific neurochemicals are released and the body follows into sleep, action, etc. For example, at 10 Hz., Serotonin, Norepinephrine & Beta-Endorphin are released, prepearing the body for rest and sleep.
During the waking state, we are normally in the Beta state, frequencies at 13 Hz. and above.
As we beign to relax, our base frequency falls into the Alpha (esp. if we have our eyes close - but NOT imagining anything.) The Alpha state roughly corresponds to 8-12 Hz. It's in this level that meditators usually reach, some can dip into the upper Theta state, and a very few special persons, like Tibetian Monks can actually go well into the Theta.
Lower still lies the sleep state of the Theta, at 4-7 Hz. And this is primairy interest to us here in lucid draming. At the border between the Alpha and Theta is a state where we no longer have any input from our human body, but still hold a tiny sliver of awareness. It's at this point where we become lucid. REM sleep occurs in the Theta brainwave state. This occurs somewhere between 6 - 8 Hz.
Lower still is the Delta state, a completely unconsious, dreamless sleep state. Twenty minutes in Delta will make up for about four hours of sleep. (It seems to reset the sodium/potassium levels in the brain.)
I use a small, cigarette pack-sized device called a Proteus to induce these different states of consciousness. Here's the home page if anyone's interested:
http://www.syneticsystems.com/Proteus.html
Basically what happens is a stereo signal is injected in each ear and two different color of LED bulbs begin flashing in each eye. It has been found that the audible beats and light flashes will"entrain" the brain in what's called a "frequency-following effect". This causes both hemispheres of the brain to synchronize and drop to the stimulus frequency; changing the level of consciousness.
It can be done with sound only (the Shamans used drums to enter into states of awareness where they could communicate with their own subconsciousnesses much better), light flashes only (light entrain MUCH faster and deeper - we use approximately 40% of our brain's processing cycles to process images), or both. This is what these "light & sound machines", like the Proteus, use. Much faster and deeper enteinment.
So to finally answer your question, does it work, an unqualified yes. My Proteus can put you into trance in six minutes. Sound sleep in about eight (if that's what you want.)
To answer the second part, I used sessions which hovered around the 18 Hz. level to lower the amount od Theta I was producing in my awakened state. (Theta tends to make you lose your concentration in anything you are doing.) In about two weeks I noticed I had much more control over being able to hold my attention on what I was doing. (Had used the session around three times a week, about 1/2 hour each.)
Moving in the opposite direction, sessions in the area of trance, the device will induce a deep trance very quickly, but I still have the problem of passing through the hypnagogic state directly into sleep.
As to what's clicically known about binaural beats, "studies have shown improvements in sensory integration (Morris 1990), relaxation, meditation, stress reduction, pain management, sleep (Wilson 1990; Rhodes 1993), health care (Carter 1993), enhanced memory (Kennerly 1994), improved creativity (Hiew 1995), increased intuition, improved reliability in remote viewing (McMoneagle 1993), telepathy, and out-of-body experience." (From the Monroe institute's website.)
One of the main reasons I went back to using the Nova Dreamer was to improve my ability to become lucid while awake. Used in combination with the Proteus, I hope to improve my ability to again have a direct communication with my own subconsciousness. I had this ability while I was in my 40's and lost it due to the more immediate concerns of raising a family, etc. I know how it works, and how to make it work again, there just seems to be 'something' blocking the path.
Golden castles on open plains of silvery light ...
Dennis
Wow very interesting details here. I don't know if I could ever subject myself to using any of these devices. But its cool to know about them. Like I've heard of the Nova Dreamer but I still have no idea what the real functions happen to be. Oh and don't explain it for anyone who was going to, its not that important for me to know unless someone else wants the specific's
Thanks guys! I also did some research by myself! I downloaded BW generator and tried it for meditation, I think that it really helps but you should have knowledge of the experience you want to achieve. It's like a helping hand. I will experiment for some time with meditation and I'll let you know of the results. :)
4.7=voices???
:lol: I must try! :lol:
Whoa, that makes my head feel wierd... I just tried it... The sound combination seems to make it pulse.Quote:
Originally posted by Seeker
Sorry I took so long to respond on this one.
Brainwave entrainment works something like this:
It is impossible for the human ear to detect sounds less than 20 hz or so.
It is in this range that many interesting brainwave frequencies lie, so...
You put a sound at say 220 hz in one ear and one at 224hz in the other ear. The brain combines these frequencies and generates a beat frequence at about 4 hz, which by the way is right about Theta for most people.
You can find more info at www.bwgen.com
I've had some success with this when using frequencies to enter alpha or theta. One time, when using theta frequencies, around 4.7 hz, I could swear I heard people talking. It freaked me out, so I pulled the headphones and the voices went away.
Get a copy of bwgen if you haven't already and play around with it.
Warning though. If you are epileptic, stay away from it as it could cause seizures.
Good Luck!
Yeah, it can make you feel a little strange at times. Have fun with it!
I programmed my own ramp down from 7hz to 2 hz with a 90 degree phase offset and listened to it for about 45 minutes one day.
At one point, I felt the pulsing.
I'm trying to use the self-hypnosis track to cause me to remember my dreams.
I've never tried that one. I usually listen while at work and so go for the relaxation and meditation or the creativity series.
But, as I mentioned earlier, I got the best effects by just playing and trying to home in on target frequencies that my brain responds best to.
Good luck!
what would be a good range to promote a good meditation session? right now i made one that starts at 14hz then 5 min later gets down to 8hz then again down to 6hz in abother 5 min, the transitions are very soft and are a lil prolonged at 8hz, is this a good set up, any tips for it?
12 Hz if I remember right is the transition between Beta and Alpha, 8Hz is the transition between Alpha and Theta.
Someone step in here and correct me if I'm wrong.
If your meditation skills are a poor as mine, the 5 minute transition times might be a little fast.
However, if you are good a meditation, they should be fine.
Anyone heard voices yet?
ok i guess i'll prolong the transition a lil, and no voices yet :wink: but i'll post here as soon as i get some. :lol:
From what I've read there is no hard fast rule as to where the beta ends and alpha starts. It seems to vary to between individuals and in a single individual at different times.Quote:
Originally posted by Seeker
12 Hz if I remember right is the transition between Beta and Alpha, 8Hz is the transition between Alpha and Theta.
Someone step in here and correct me if I'm wrong. If your meditation skills are a poor as mine, the 5 minute transition times might be a little fast. However, if you are good a meditation, they should be fine.
Anyone heard voices yet?
You can drop from beta to alpha fairly fast (one minute is OK) but as you drop lower, the transition should take longer as the brain needs longer times to adapt to the lower frequencies (it's also a chemical machine, not just electrical.)
Somewhere between 8 Hz and 6 Hz lies your own twilight zone, body asleep, mind still aware. (Mine noramally lies around 7.6 Hz, but I also hit it at 7.5 and 7.4 Hz.) This is a good place to target for deep meditation.
Try not to visualize in the mid alpha as it (visualization) will raise the frequency.
At the twilight barrier, visualization actually seems to help maintain awareness, it adds some alpha into the strong theta band and the needed degree of consciousness.
The actual frequencies are not as important as the degree of repetition. The brain will make new connections to process this new stimulus and this in turn will make it easier to enter into a trance easier (over time.)
Heh.. exported me a 30 minute clip, put it on my MP3 player and went to bed. My eyelids started twitching like they was on crack! hehehe... I probably have to keep doing it, it's all kind of progressive training i think... cool stuff regardless :)
I export the meditation(from wide awake) and i listened to it while i was in bed. It surelly worked although i have to make the transitions a little slower. nice... :)
I never thought of exporting to my MP3 player. Using MP3 pro variable encoding, I should be able to get about 5 hours on it!
page o' brainwave frequences: http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htm
Lastnight i listened to the deep meditation wave and i'm not sure if i was just tired or if it calmed me down but i ended up staring at myself in the mirror for 15 minutes until someone called me and then i took the headphones off. That is completely unusal for me.
Jallen, that's cool!
Mirrors can be fun! Do you remember any thoughts, sounds, or images you might have experienced?
Did you experience the passing of time?
No i just remember being completely relaxed. I did the same thing lastnight after i posted that and i stared at my face again. For some reason though i don't feel comfortable closing my eyes while listening to it, i become very uneasy and feel like someone is in my room and immediately open my eyes.
I've never tried it with eyes closed.... sounds interesting
You said deep meditation, maybe tomarrow at lunch...
Its not just the deep meditation though its all the noises in that program. I'm pretty sure the reason is that when i was growing up i had a lot of nightmares and night terrors about aliens and the soudns seem somewhat alienlike to me.
Are we supposed to listen to this stuff before or during sleep?
Ill try some of this stuff out later. I dont really have free quiet time right now.
Edit:BTW which ones are supposed to help with dream-related stuff. Like dream recall and/or Better dream recall? Or are there no such thing on the brainwave generator?
It got you to stare at yourself in the mirror for 15 minutes? Wow, i do that all the time. I sometimes blank out in front of the mirror and it almost feels like my mind and body are seperating. Like my physical self and mental self are two different people.
Here is an interesting link http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htmQuote:
Originally posted by nightowl
Edit:BTW which ones are supposed to help with dream-related stuff. Like dream recall and/or Better dream recall? Or are there no such thing on the brainwave generator?
Also, if you register, you can import libraries. I haven't looked in a while, but I remember LOTS of sessions that people have created for just about everything. I remember seeing at least three for Lucid dreaming.
If I find the link, I'll come back here and post.
EDIT: Found what I was looking for
http://www.bwgen.com/presets.htm
Thanks seeker. It sucks though that you have to sign up and cough up like $40 in order to hear those though.
In the bwgen dir rename presets.bwg to presets.bak. put downloaded *.bwg file in bwgen dir and rename to presets.bwg, have fun :wink:
uh... I'm starting to think nobody reads my posts now...Quote:
:: runs off and joins the goth scene :: :P
Alright, just testing the brainwave whatever it is. I had to unroot my old headphones for this, so it better be good!
And I better not hear voices and get scared. Because I'm a wimp :P
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wow. I like this. I had a headache...turned on the brainwave to "headache treatment" and BOOF! It's gone :D ]
[edit: hey! voices! I heard voices! I swear I heard a guy talking. Weird...]
*muffins* for DeadToTheWorld!!!
I'm going to have to get out my hex editor and see if I can concantonate all these mwp's into a single massive library!
hmmm, its not working for me. I think I did something wrong, but now I cant play anything. Can you see if I did anything wrong. I went to the bwgen folder in my C drive. There was a file named presets (not presets.bwg or at least it didn't say it did) I renamed that file to presets.bak. Then I downloaded something from the preset library and saved it as preset.bwg. When I went to the folder the presets.bwg file was back to presets only*no bwg at the end*. Now, I cant play anything. Not even the preset and when I import preset.bak it says something about me not being registered and I cant use it. Whats my problem? Sorry for the trouble, I dont really know a lot about computers :?Quote:
Originally posted by DeadToTheWorld
In the bwgen dir rename presets.bwg to presets.bak. put downloaded *.bwg file in bwgen dir and rename to presets.bwg, have fun :wink:
dont worry, i couldnt be bothered to add more because i was using the onscreen keyboard. Open My Computer, click 'Tools' on the main menu then 'Folder Options'. Click the 'View' tab and in the 'Advanced Settings' box uncheck 'Hide extensions for known file types'. You should now see the full file name. :-P
Thanks, it works now.
Hey thanks Dead to the world, nice trick..... :D
Hi.. Me again with the 30-minute brainwave entrainment clip on my mp3 player. Listened to in before bed last night along with that relaxation technique described in Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming (tensing muscle groups)... I fell asleep like a baby. :D
...'Found out it really worked in the morning, waking up to the player and headphones still on. (Otherwise I would have taken the effort to throw it on the floor)
3rd or 4th night I tried this, if anyone is wondering.
Preset import program available...
PM me your e-mail if you are interested.
Special thanks to nightowl and Cold Fusion for helping me test it!
WHOA
I just tried the creativity increase and now that I take my earplugs out, the fan of my computer sounds all bubbly and squeeky instead of the normal booring fan sound.... its starting to decrease now.
holy .... I'm trying the "Awakening mind and sleep inductions tonight..." will report backQuote:
Originally posted by CT
WHOA
I just tried the creativity increase and now that I take my earplugs out, the fan of my computer sounds all bubbly and squeeky instead of the normal booring fan sound.... its starting to decrease now.
This stuff really messes whith your mind...
Going to see if self-hypnosis works with one of those presets.
BTW - the trick with renaming those things does not work?
I renamed presets.bwg to presets.bak.
Renamed downloaded preset to presets.bwg
open up Bwgen, and it gives an error 'presets.bwg is not a brainwave generator file or is corrupt'
weird.
"BUILTIN: Relaxation2" makes me feel like i'm on weed.... but not as strong but alot better.
CT, I'll email you something Monday morning that will help you with your imports,
Let me know if you would like.
Last night I did the entire "Awakening Mind"...
Part 1: Normal
Part 2: REM!
Part 3: Normal
Part 4: I see images... almost like dreaming while you're awake... weird as hell. heh
Part 5: Normal
Part 6: You feel numbness rise from your feet to your tongue (You can litteraly feel it travelling up you)
This stuff is absolutley frightening but cool as hell. What preset makes you hear voices? I heard something about that... please reply.
have you guys tried the flash option?
Do you know about how long the preset is?Quote:
Originally posted by Jojodi
Last night I did the entire \"Awakening Mind\"...
Part 1: Normal
Part 2: REM!
Part 3: Normal
Part 4: I see images... almost like dreaming while you're awake... weird as hell. heh
Part 5: Normal
Part 6: You feel numbness rise from your feet to your tongue (You can litteraly feel it travelling up you)
This stuff is absolutley frightening but cool as hell. What preset makes you hear voices? I heard something about that... please reply.
Apperantly listening to 4.7 Hz made you hear voices...
(Thats too freaky for my, I'm not gonna try that, but try to experiment yourself if you must)
I was the guy that heard them at 4.7, but Cold Fusion(i think) only saw hypnogic images at that frequency. Last time I tried, no voices.
Guess nobody was trying to contact me that day...
I hear voices at night before going to sleep anyway. :lol: seriously.
You tried it yet Paperdoll?
no, I haven't read the whole thread. :oops: don't exactly know what we're talking about here. :lol:
:oops:
could any of these waves trigger ld's?
There are several presets at BWGEN.COM that claim to do that. I am experiementing with some of the deep meditation presets to try to place suggestions in my subcoucious to help increase the number of LDs.
I am also trying to create a preset of my own, but am waiting on some information about chakra's from a friend.
Keep you posted, but until then look on the BWGEN website again =)
A weird one to try is Jacob's ladder. It feels like your on a roller coaster. First 10 minutes your being lifted up the hill then all of sudden you drop down. The g force feeling is very freaky.
Jacob's ladder? Where did you get that one from?
Never mind, I found it. I didn't get a very vivid feeling, but I defintely felt some kind of pull. I feel sick now.
BWgen is really cool, it suprises me that it works so good.
I might burn one of em to a CD and loop it while I go to sleep.
See how that works.
I urge you all to try "The Awakening Mind".... its like a gallery of a whole bunch of things... I talked about iton the last page.
Hey, here are the various uses.. Its from a program called cooledit which has a brainwave syncronizer built in.
Major brainwave pattern frequencies and possible uses for
brainwave synchronization
Delta 1-3 Hz Deep sleep, lucid dreaming, increased immune
functions.
Theta 4-7 Hz Deep relaxation, meditation, increased memory
and focus.
Alpha 8-12 Hz Light relaxation, "superlearning", positive
thinking.
Beta 13-25 Hz Normal state of alertness, stress and anxiety.
Gamma 30 Hz on up Hyper-awareness
High Gamma 200+ Hz Various effects
Immediate Relaxation and Stress Relief - Choose between 5hz and 10 Hz
for different levels of relaxation.
Meditation - Choose between 4hz and 7hz, either cycle between a few, or stay
at a particular frequency for different results.
Sleep Replacement - A 30 minute session at 5Hz replaces about 2-3 hours of
sleep, allowing one to wake up in the morning more refreshed. Try listening
1/2 hour before waking up in the morning, or 1/2 hour before going to bed.
Improved Sleeping Patterns - Any of the Alpha and Theta frequencies (8Hz
to 4Hz) for 30-45 minute sessions at the same time each day.
Treatment of Insomnia - Choose between 4hz and 6hz for starters (the first
10 minutes), then go into frequencies below 3.5hz (for 20-30 minutes), settling
on about 2.5hz before fading out.
Improved and Lasting Sense of Well Being - Try Theta (4Hz to 7Hz) for 45
minutes, daily.
Creative Visualization - About 6hz for a while, then up to 10hz works well
while using visualization techniques.
Alleviation of Migraines and Headaches - Experiment with Alpha and Theta
combinations. Try and visualize the pain getting smaller and smaller until it
disappears.
Reduction of Depression Symptoms - Again, Alpha and Theta combinations,
mostly theta.
Self Hypnosis - Choose about 8hz to 10hz while playing any self-hypnosis
tape, or guided meditation.
Accelerated Learning - Choose about 7hz to 9hz while playing any learning
tapes, like foreign language tapes, etc. to increase comprehension. Also, while
studying, take breaks every half hour and listen to 10 minutes of Alpha (10Hz)
while reflecting on the material you just learned.
Subliminal Programming - Choose 5hz to 7hz while playing your favorite
subliminal tapes, or make your own by recording some affirmations, and mix
pasting (Edit:Paste Special) them from the clipboard at barely audible volumes.
Improve Intuition (or ESP?) - Theta frequencies help in this area, 4hz to 7hz.
Reaching Higher States of Consciousness - Theta again, with daily half hour
minimum sessions. Give at least a month for results.
Quick Refresher on long days - Low Alpha 8hz to 10hz for about 15 minutes
works well. Sort of induces a cat-nap.
Increased Immune System - Relaxing to Alpha and Theta combinations daily.
Learning how to relax, and relaxing more often can lower blood pressure and
increase the body's natural defenses. Using Alpha Synchronization (8Hz to
12Hz), expect similar increases in the neuro-chemical levels of Norepinephrin
(11%), Serotonin (21%) and Beta-Endorphins (25%).
Cooledit? That's the brainwave editor thing, isn't it?
There's a page with the entire bunch. It's been linked to before.
Frequencies.
Also listed as a link in this topic.
I have tried the brain wave a couple of times. Everytime I try it I go blind until it is off. It makes me so mad cause I would like to be able to listen to it. But at the same time I enjoy seeing. Has this happened to anyone else?
cooledit isn't a brainwave editor, it is just a sound editor. You can edit mp3's wav's and other sound media types.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
Cooledit? That's the brainwave editor thing, isn't it?
There's a page with the entire bunch. It's been linked to before.
Frequencies.
Also listed as a link in this topic.
Mybad. I recall people talking about using CoolEdit for BWGEN or something.
Really??Quote:
Originally posted by theunknowndreamer
I have tried the brain wave a couple of times. Everytime I try it I go blind until it is off. It makes me so mad cause I would like to be able to listen to it. But at the same time I enjoy seeing. Has this happened to anyone else?
By any chance do you suffer from some form of epilepsy?
Never heard of that happening before.
nope. I have no idea why it does this, but I know it drives my boyfriend crazy because he loves listening to it but he can't when I am around. He kept trying the different sounds but they got worse.
Woah, that's really strange... The couple times I've tried it I didn't notice too much of, anything, although my hearing sounded weird right after taking the headphones off.Quote:
Originally posted by theunknowndreamer
I have tried the brain wave a couple of times. Everytime I try it I go blind until it is off. It makes me so mad cause I would like to be able to listen to it. But at the same time I enjoy seeing. Has this happened to anyone else?
hmm, maybe I am just that different.
Heh yeah, I have that too, the fan of my computer either sounds like shooting laser in an old 2D VGA shooter usually when I tried BWgen... Also, I've got majorly increased hearing... I can hear my dog's nails on the floor upstairs, which I cant hear normally...Quote:
Woah, that's really strange... The couple times I've tried it I didn't notice too much of, anything, although my hearing sounded weird right after taking the headphones off.[/b]
gah! It bugs me!!!Quote:
Originally posted by theunknowndreamer
nope. I have no idea why it does this, but I know it drives my boyfriend crazy because he loves listening to it but he can't when I am around. He kept trying the different sounds but they got worse.
Cool edit is a recording studio thing that has the brainwave editor randomly built in... Its how i first found out about the whole brainwave thing. I used it for sleep reduction (30 mins of 5hz wave gives 2-3hrs of sleep) until i found out about lucid dreaming.
Ive only tried a few presets from the bwg site, the awakening one i only felt a tiny bit, and i also tried a lucid dream one (LD Test).
My prob is tearing off the headphones in my sleep heh.. i tried 3 times during the night. Had some very cool action dreams though.
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nope. I have no idea why it does this, but I know it drives my boyfriend crazy because he loves listening to it but he can't when I am around. He kept trying the different sounds but they got worse.
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nope. I have no idea why it does this, but I know it drives my boyfriend crazy because he loves listening to it but he can't when I am around. He kept trying the different sounds but they got worse.
gah! It bugs me!!!
I dunno some really smart hott dreamer...Quote:
Originally posted by Artelis
Uh huh, and who told you about this site :roll:
Munkle? That double crossing...Quote:
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Uh huh, and who told you about this site :roll:
"Subharmonic" had quite a noticeable effect on me. I could actually notice my perspective change as the waves moved from alpha on to theta, and around 5 hz I started to feel really drowsy. I was having a very hard time staying awake at 4hz. I also noticed some time effects, in which the last 20 minutes of the preset seemed to pass a lot quicker than the first 20 minutes. I feel more awake today and my mind just seems to be working better, I feel that the brain wave "exercising" was pretty helpful :) It could be that the 20 mins or so in theta-delta "restored" me.
Its pretty cool, I found out that sometimes i'm more perceptive to it then other times...
Although I'm also a little bit impatient, after the time I listened to some preset and WHAM i felt really good all of a sudden...
Just listened to it again.. I feel all nice and relaxed now. Again I found it really hard to stay awake so I think it's having a real effect. As it entrains for 40 minutes and goes down gradually that may be why :)
I haven't noticed quite strong effects with the other presets, though I keep trying different ones..
entraining my self to sleep now, gnite...
I formatted my disk, so I lost the software. I'll get it again.
Just tried with the headphones on in my bed... its fucking 03:45 and I'm NOT sleepy, goddammit. Not working!!!! >.<
Oh for me it works well.Quote:
BWgen is really cool, it suprises me that it works so good. [/b]
its too akward to not awake my fear of the darkness.
I can't import the files... I tried the method previously mentioned but it said the file was corrupt.
Has anyone tried the LD Test and 12 preset? I wanna try it but I can't since I don't have the full version.