Thread: never waking up from lucid dream

Originally Posted by Dying Dignity

Not really, if I tried the same experiment then I couldn't time the exact time I was in a dream because when I go to sleep it sometimes seems as if only a few seconds have passed when in reality it could be an hour and I have had no dreams in that time, I have no memory of being asleep and would swear that I had not been asleep if the clock was not telling a different time. This could come before you dream or after without you realising.

Originally Posted by kingofhypocrites

Steven Laberge scientifically studied lucidity and is a master by any account. He stated they there was no evidence that people could sustain unnaturally long periods of REM through lucid dreaming. If someone is able to sustain a 4 hour REM period, they should be studied and could probably win a world record. Looking at a clock is not reliable. There is no way to know actually the moment you entered a lucid unless you can wild in like 2 mins and furthermore no way to know for sure you wake up directly after the dream ended or whether or not there were gaps inbetween your dreams with non-rem periods. It is very easy to have multiple dreams in one long dream sequence without realizing it. Just like there are people who claim they never fall asleep but once tested they find they microsleep and had absolutely no awareness they were even sleeping. I have personally watched an hour lapse while looking at a clock with no percepted lapse in time. I meditate and find time moves rates your conscious mind does not always perceive. To say find some study where someone had a long REM period without lucidity... lucidity is nothing magical sorry to tell you. I do think it's theoretically possible to lengthen a dream perhaps due to the fact that lucid dreaming is much like deep hypnosis (in regards to brainwave pattern), and in hypnosis one clearly has control over the biology over the body; although there is no evidence once can provide hypnotic suggestion within a lucid dream. You ask me for studies on where something is possible without lucid dreaming, show me ONE study where somone had a four hour lucid. I would love to see it. Once again, probably possible, but don't pretend looking at a clock is scientific evidence. Real science disproves peoples "perceptions" of the truth all the time.

You guys are both right on the mark. I've also had the time preception thing. I think it was the microsleep that was mentioned because I could swear that I was awake straight through the 2-3hr that passed, but, likely I dozed off and woke up without realizing it. As I stated earlier, I think its possible, but, kingofhypocrites mentioned why that clock method isn't reliable PROVIDED they didn't WILD right away(like couple of minutes) and then ended the dream themselves to check the clock.