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      Dreaming In Non-Rem

      What the hell?

      I found out on a documentary that you can in fact dream in non-rem, and that people who awake from a dream in non-rem are more positive, whereas if you wake up after a rem dream you will be more unhappy. Apparently this is caused by the amygdala or something rather.

      Could you get lucid in a non-rem then?

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      Can you remeber the name/title of the documentary? i would like to look this up

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      I think so. because I have had three or four more than half hour LDs in the early night when my REM periods should have been 15 minutes or so.
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      Its called "Horizon: Why Do We Dream?"

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      Quote Originally Posted by lucidmax15895 View Post
      I think so. because I have had three or four more than half hour LDs in the early night when my REM periods should have been 15 minutes or so.
      Maybe it was in rem, and just felt really long?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ganjaaah View Post
      Maybe it was in rem, and just felt really long?
      Nope. It was definitely longer than it should have been.
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      The first night I learned about lucid dreaming I had a short dream and woke up and when I looked at the clock only 5 minuites had passed so how could I have been in REM I didn't even know what WILD was lol. Oh and lucidmax. time is from the perspective in dreams. Some people claim to have dreams that seem like they last for weeks but are only a over night.

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      and that people who awake from a dream in non-rem are more positive, whereas if you wake up after a rem dream you will be more unhappy.
      I've heard the exact opposite many times. From personal experience I can tell that I feel more rested if I wake up during REM.
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      Not about being rested, about the type of mood.

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      Precisely. You can wake up in REM and feel VERY rested, but chances are, you'll want to go back to sleep and you'll be rather irritable if someone is trying to get you up.

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      I think I watched this documentary as well, quite recently actually

      Did they demonstrate animals while dreaming(with sleep paralysis disabled)?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      What the hell?

      I found out on a documentary that you can in fact dream in non-rem, and that people who awake from a dream in non-rem are more positive, whereas if you wake up after a rem dream you will be more unhappy. Apparently this is caused by the amygdala or something rather.

      Could you get lucid in a non-rem then?
      On a lunch, I took a catnap for about five to ten minutes, had a dream. Woke up, went back to sleep for five to ten minutes and resumed the dream. Woke up, went to work. I was aware that I was dreaming the whole time. Merely being aware is considered lucid, so it was lucid dreaming.

      Either I had a dream with no REM or I was so exhausted that I entered REM within a couple minutes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ArcanumNoctis View Post
      Merely being aware is considered lucid
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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
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      Yes?

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      Everyone is happy to state the obvious, but not directly answer my question. I'm not asking "what is lucidity?". I want to know if its possible to get lucid during non-rem sleep.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      Everyone is happy to state the obvious, but not directly answer my question. I'm not asking "what is lucidity?". I want to know if its possible to get lucid during non-rem sleep.
      It IS possible, for advanced LDers. BUT it is worthless. The have crappy stability, crappy dream logic, crappy recall, crappy everything. Trust me, you don't wanna waste your energy on them. Since it's non-REM, maybe your eyeball will be fixed to point, unable to move? O_O
      i think you might end up waking if you try something too flash in a non-REM LD. and you might not realize that you have awaken. Need I say more?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      Everyone is happy to state the obvious, but not directly answer my question. I'm not asking "what is lucidity?". I want to know if its possible to get lucid during non-rem sleep.
      I did answer your question. I said either I had a dream with no REM or I was so exhausted that I entered REM within a couple minutes. Considering it was within five to ten minutes, I would say it was most likely a dream with no REM, a lucid dream at that. Scientifically, REM is suppose to take way longer than five to ten minutes before it starts.
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      I've heard REM can sustain several hours after you wake up. When did you get up that day?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      I've heard REM can sustain several hours after you wake up. When did you get up that day?
      I got up at 6:00 a.m.. Took that mini-nap at around 11:45 a.m..

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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      I found out on a documentary that you can in fact dream in non-rem, and that people who awake from a dream in non-rem are more positive, whereas if you wake up after a rem dream you will be more unhappy.
      No big surprise. Non rem dreams are more relaxed, or even boring. REM dreams are more action oriented, more intense, so it makes sense you mood would match.

      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      Could you get lucid in a non-rem then?
      For sure you could. I'm just undecided which would be easier to accomplish lucidity in. In REM dreams, there would be more crazy stuff to tip you off that you're dreaming. But there would also be more stuff to distract your attention. I think the odds of waking up in a non-REM lucid would be much greater than in a REM one, as you don't have that intensity to anchor you in the dream. They each have their pros and cons I suppose.

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      You can dream in NREM sleep for sure. Though they won't be as vivid as ones that happen during REM.
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