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we know your dream relates to when you last slept, thats the believed purpose for dreaming, i do not mind you trying to help but you are a little ill informed, they say it they feel a dark age cuz there dreams appear different or weaker than normal.. its not liek we expect our dreams to "suck". i disliek reality and love to substitute it for my own in dreams everynight. idk if you have but iv been lucid for years and latly things have been different.
sorry that is to kojy, thought it would reply to his =/ i tried to have it be that way, i can see it didnt work.
I haven't been lucid for very long, but that doesn't mean I'm ill informed. The believed reason for us dreaming is to go over the days events and solidify them into permanent memory. It's why so often you will dream about something that happened during the day. Even just the theme of your dreams can be different depending on recent events.Quote:
Originally Posted by stayinglucid
I'm not saying this is why people are having a hard time with their dreams recently I'm just saying it could be for some people. It's like worrying about lucid dreaming. We all know that getting stressed and worried about it will not make you have one, it will probably do the opposite. Maybe it's the same for dreams in general?
That would indeed make sense. But I don't think,as aothers have said, that logic trumps creativity or that they can't coexist, it seems to me that people are being trained to think logically INSTEAD of creatively. Not logic in mathematics terms or anything, but rather the finite reality and structured and organizational consequences people seem to believe. If you haven't noticed, there are hundreds of people here on DV that have asked "can I do this in my dream, can I do that in my dream, how do I ______ in my dream, I want a dream control guide," etc etc. People are being trained to think in logical structure, when reality is much more complex than a simple action-reaction, and thinking outside the box is what makes a dreamer a dreamer IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndigoGhost
People are thinking "If lucid dreaming is common, then people must know the limits to it." A simple scientific question, only they're making a prediction with no hypothesis. Why is there limits at all? People are asking dreamers what is possible in dreams, instead of creating original ideas and seeing if it's possible in dreams.
Although, with the dialogue in that scene, it seemed more like a simple "nobody teaches it, so people are forgetting about it" message, it could mean more that the groups of people, the shamans and indigenous tribes and the teachings of dream yoga based on exploration instead of structured hierarchical achievement that is more common now.
Also, Waking Life was made in 2001, so if the movie commented on a lack of dreaming ability, it would have been noted 9+ years ago (not that dreaming ability hasn't possibly, but ppl in this thread seem to be talking about more recently).
Also, Waking Life is an awesome movie.
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