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How is lucid dreaming involved in the search for Truth? Answering questions about God and that sort of thing? |
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"I know that I am mortal by nature, and ephemeral; but when I trace at my pleasure the windings to and fro of the heavenly bodies I no longer touch the earth with my feet: I stand in the presence of Zeus himself and take my fill of ambrosia, food of the gods." - Claudius Ptolemy
Well... the truth I would seek would involve revealing who am I, since I know that I'm in a world my mind created. God on the other hand... well that's up to you. You could talk to God in your dream I guess, but I would only believe that you are talking to yourself. Revealing the truth about God is another story. |
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Once i 'saw' GOD and DEATH in a dream. Was weird, first i died then i flew and finally arrived at mountain top. There they were. I knew they were there i knew that with my guts but i could not really see them. It just doesnt work like that. I couldnt see even when i was flying towards them. They were too enormous. Unimaginable. So i was just the speck down somewhere in their feet. They had a funny chat though cos i heard them laughig not thet i understood something. But they let me go down the mountain by foot and be alive again. |
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"A knight is sworn to valor.
His heart knows only virtue.
His blade defends the helpless.
His might upholds the weak.
His word speaks only truth.
His wrath undoes the wicked."
Impossible is only that which has yet to be imagined
What Truth are you seeking anyway? The only truth I know is that we're small, insignificant beings on a tiny blue dot in the vast and unimaginably huge cosmos. |
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GOALS: Fly [X] - Glide [X] - Telekinesis [X] - Teleportation [ ] - Time manipulation [ ] - Have a Matrix-style fight [ ] - Kill someone with Music [ ] - Place my hand in boiling water and drink it [ ] - Make the moon crash into the Earth [ ]
Not to be a jerk, but quite frankly, our understanding of lucid dreaming is simply being aware in our dreams. So, no relation to searching for truth unless there's an aspect to it we have yet to discover. |
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DV Dictionary. / Verious: a definition. /
I'm not on DV much these days, but I'll try to toss a cool dream or two into my DJ.
Well, Tibetan Buddhists have used lucid dreaming in search of enlightenment or attain it or whatever for awhile now. Does that count as Truth? |
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Very well, there appears to be a field of lucid dreaming I know little of that sounds like Truth to me. Thanks for the tip. In my experience lucid dreaming doesn't bring me toward the Truth, but I don't mean to say it can't. |
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DV Dictionary. / Verious: a definition. /
I'm not on DV much these days, but I'll try to toss a cool dream or two into my DJ.
before i attempt to answer this question, i must state that i do not consider myself religious at all. but i am spiritual in the sense that i view my thoughts and actions through a larger lens and in relation to greater forces at work.. some of which i do not yet understand. |
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Agree with what kooky said, you'll see what you expect to, even if you don't expect it consciously. |
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Last edited by Thyspacegoat; 07-14-2010 at 09:41 AM.
This is ridiculous (completely ignoring a religious debate where) dreams are just dreams. Kookyinc makes a good point, you're only going to find what you're already looking for. |
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Last edited by SystemsLock; 07-14-2010 at 04:40 AM.
"I know that I am mortal by nature, and ephemeral; but when I trace at my pleasure the windings to and fro of the heavenly bodies I no longer touch the earth with my feet: I stand in the presence of Zeus himself and take my fill of ambrosia, food of the gods." - Claudius Ptolemy
That is a very intelligent and relevant question, Requiem. EWOLD, widely considered to be the "Bible" of lucid dreaming, has an entire chapter devoted to just such a topic. In fact, Stephen LaBerge (a scientist) repeatedly implies throughout that book that spirituality and one's individual experience of the divine or a spiritual awakening within the lucid dream is the most important aspect of lucid dreaming, however you may interpret such an experience. It is true that Tibetan Buddhists have for thousands of years used the lucid dream as a vehicle for exploring reality and uncovering a deeper universal truth about who we really are. |
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"Sorrow is nothing but worn out joy."
i believe that as humans we are on a mission or journey to figure out who we are and where we came from and how to get back. when i say "how to get back" i mean to say that how can we return to the "god consciousness" we have always known and was always there. To me, god consciousness is knowing all that is and being all that is. we have that power but we have just forgotten in this human experience. I believe that it is through our dreams, meditation, and any other altered state of consciousness that we can "re-remember" this all knowing power we possess. i feel that when one has the ability to lucid dream and dream control, in a sense we are kind of "practicing" how to remember these powers or higher levels of consciousness because it is all by direct will. which we can also do in waking reality but of course it takes longer for those thoughts to manifest. in the dream world thoughts, ideas, and feelings are much faster to come. but to me lucid dreaming is kind of a practice ground for the higher levels of consciousness we already possess but are working towards in this journey of the human experience. After this physical plane.. when we have learned all that we can.. we will move on.. perhaps closer to this "god consciousness" and i believe lucid dreaming plays a part in harnessing these kinds of higher states. |
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Truth is the state of being true. Two are more things are said to be true to each other, when by some means of comparison, no difference is found in the measures. |
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Last edited by Philosopher8659; 07-15-2010 at 07:24 PM.
Exactly. It's as if human beings have become entranced by egoic consciousness, completely convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are who we think we are, nothing more, and nothing less. Certain altered states of consciousness such as Lucid Dreaming can give us a glimpse back into our natural, undefined state of open, unbounded, awareness that we always have been. I also believe that humans are currently at a major turning point in our evolution, where we will soon either destroy ourselves completely and leave mother nature to start over new, or we will experience a major shift in Consciousness that utterly redefines how we perceive ourselves and how we perceive the rest of the Universe. |
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"Sorrow is nothing but worn out joy."
I would suggest you meet up with your DG and have him/her answer a few questions for you, as they are said to guide you |
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LDs : A few occasionally
OBEs : 2
AP´s: 0
No, don't. Get "The tibetan yogas of dream and sleep" if you're interested in that subject, Requim. |
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Last edited by XeL; 07-15-2010 at 11:00 PM.
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