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      I feel like my mind is playing tricks on me to see how freakin ABSURD my dreams can actually get without sparking a lucid[/b]
      Playing tricks on you, or training you to get better....?

      "Absurd" things (at least for me) seem to have no effect in my dreams. It's either got to be a dreamsign, or a WILD --Except in my most recent lucid -- but I'm still trying to figure that one out. It was different than any of the other times.

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      OMG Intruder Alert!!!

      Hehe. Jk. Wow I didn't know people actually bothered to read my random shit. Coolness.

      But you could be right...I'm not sure. I'm gonna have to nip this in the ass before it gets worse. o_o

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      Last night I can only remember one dream, non lucid...sigh. Yey dry spells

      An old friend from high school who I haven't seen in years but randomly called me a few weeks ago was there. I was visiting her new house. Her sister and brother were there...they had a house overlooking this beach. She was upset because her brother got the nice view of the beach and when I looked at the water it was so gorgeous. Then I saw all these animals in the water. The first was a walrus and then I saw this weird fish thing. Was pretty neat. I remember going up to the top floor of their house and the wood was all rotting. I think they got the house for super cheap and it was like termintes or something because the wood was breaking all around me I thought I was going to fall through the floor. Anyways...that's all I remember. Pretty lame right.

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      Wow, that is so very similar to one of my recurring dreams....


      hmmmm..

      anyway...

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      Last night I can only remember one dream, non lucid...sigh. Yey dry spells

      An old friend from high school who I haven't seen in years but randomly called me a few weeks ago was there. I was visiting her new house.........I think they got the house for super cheap and it was like termintes or something because the wood was breaking all around me I thought I was going to fall through the floor. Anyways...that's all I remember. Pretty lame right. [/b]
      not so lame to me - good enough detail. Wonder why your friend thought the brother got the better view - rotting floor should have effected both occupants. Maybe you kind of secretly wish your friend didn't have such a nice place, therefore the crappy condition.

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      That pic is actually from a lucid dream I had where I found myself sleeping in bed and I went over and talked to myself. I tried to touch the other me and put my hand up to hers but it just went through her like a ghost...that dream is in my Dream Journal somewhere...few posts up maybe.

      Originally posted by Tornado Joe
      Maybe you kind of secretly wish your friend didn't have such a nice place, therefore the crappy condition.
      Haha yeah they never had that much money so I think the only way to justify this house with an awesome view of this gorgeous beach was that it was actually like falling apart b/c of the rotting wood.

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      YEYYY LUCID!!

      Wow...that sure as hell came out of nowhere. I was having really crappy dream recall and no lucids for a few weeks but I clearly remember this lucid from last night. Unfortunately since it happened during the night I don't recall how it started or how it ended, or what sparked it. I just remember seeing a door and thinking that I really wanted to see the sea and that when I opened the door it would open up into another world.

      I approached the door and pushed it open and to my surprise the beach was actually there! I wanted to run out into the water but couldn't resist the urge to fly so I began to run out and just took flight...I think I flew around for several minutes. The dreamscape changed to a city-like dreamscape and I wanted to try my flying upsidedown thing again to see if it would have the same "super head rush" as the other two times. I tried it but something went kinda wrong and I almost hit a skyscraper so I decided to not try that again hehe.

      Then I remember another part where I was at my old, old house (from like 11 years ago) and I was basically flying in circles around my house, some family and neighbors were there but they couldn't see me. I think I was starting to fade out of lucidity at this point because I remember thinking that they couldn't see me because I was a ghost. Well that's all I remember for now.

      Hopefully I'll be able to ge lucid again soon.

      Oh yeah...I also completely forgot about the task of the month, trying to find my dream sharing target, and trying to accomplish my own personal goals...I think I was so excited to just be lucid I forgot everything else. Sorry Howie!!!

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      Here are a few oldies (but they are awesome)...from before I started a Dream Journal.

      That's Professor Nina!
      http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11586

      Liquified Nina
      http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12280

      Committing LD Suicide
      http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10262

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      Ok I gotta start off by saying that I am quite pissed at myself. I had this amazing vivid dream and woke up from it at about 4:30am, I thought that I should get up and write it down but was too lazy and figured that if I just layed there for a little bit and remembered the dream and all that happened I would be able to remember it in the morning and write it down then. UGH how stupid and lazy can I get?

      All I remember is that there was a new, empty house of some sort...and my room wasn't right. It was like possessed and it kept getting these bugs and weird lights and things like from poltergeist. Anyway we later realized that my room was, um...really Jesus' room and he was mad at me for trying to move into it. Ok it makes no sense now but I remember it being extremely cool and vivid and I think I might have even gone lucid at one point. Of course now I have to kick myself because I can't remember anymore.

      The other dream I had later and is probably why I can remember it better. I usually only remember the last 1 or 2 dreams in a night b/c they happen close to when I wake up. I was in a classroom...I think it was a college classroom even though I was sitting around girls that I went to high school with and the teacher was my high school history teacher. Anyways, we were all talking and making jokes and stuff. I was sitting in the very last row. I remember someone mentioning that we switch up the seats and then the teacher said that there would be assigned seating. She said well I can't trust you guys to all sit together...and god knows 20 year old girls can't be trusted either. (I guess in the dream we were all 20, even though I was with high school people, and I went to an all girls HS, but it was more like a college classroom)

      There were 5 desks per row and about 5 or 6 rows I think. Anyways she began calling out people's names..."so and so will be left front, so and so will be right front....nina will be center front" I remember thinking GREAT! I think she wanted me center front so that she could keep and eye on me and keep me from making trouble. I rolled my eyes and yelled great! and flung my student ID card into the air and caught it again. She looked at me and asked "are you not willing to move to the front?" I responded, "well it's not like I have a choice". She asked me the same thing again...and I responded the same way. She asked me a third time "so you aren't willing to move to the front"...."well I dont have much of a choice!!! NO! No, I am not willing to move to the front." Then she looked at the class and asked "Ok, who would be willing to move to the front?" A few hands raised...I remember feeling sort of badly...then a few more hands raised...and I felt even worse...then all my friends started raising their hands as well. Then I just felt like a complete ass because everyone was basically making me look like an asshole, er rather I did that myself. And...that's all I remember.

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      Oh yeah...I also completely forgot about the task of the month, trying to find my dream sharing target, and trying to accomplish my own personal goals...I think I was so excited to just be lucid I forgot everything else. Sorry Howie!!! Wink [/b]
      No need to be sorry. I'm just glad you broke out of your lucid dreaming drought.
      I hope I can follow suite.

      You sure do have some interesting dreams. To say the least!

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      Well last night I only remember one dream.

      I was at my sister's place...she had just moved to a huge high rise apartment building somewhere in Chicago with another girl friend of hers. I remember hanging out at her place and then she and her roommate left to go do something and I was hanging out there by myself. I remember talking on the internet to this one guy that I am friends with then he sort of turned into Dave, who is my sister's really really hot gay guy friend (that likes having sex with girls haha). Anyway, I remember that he came over and we were just kinda talking and laughing b/c he is really cool and we started messing around and I had my top off and was only wearing my jeans. Then the doorbell rang and we went to see who it was. We had to go down all these steps and then Dave saw that it was his friend (mind you I am still topless, with my hand over my chest) and he had to leave so I was left there alone. I walked up these stairs but I remember that it was sort of confusing and I got a bit disoriented. I went into this apartment and I remember that it looked kinda different and I was looking for my sister's room and went into this bedroom and there was this guy in there and he looked at me like "what the hell" and I turned around and ran out of that bedroom and as I was leaving the apartment I ran into these two girls who were just coming home. I remember saying "sorry wrong apartment" and then ran out of there. Then I finally found my sister's apartment and got dressed. I remember I could hear the people in the other apartment and the one girl was yelling at the guy and crying (I guess she thought he was cheating on her with me!) and I felt awful. Then I started yelling because I knew they could hear me "I'm really sorry my sister just moved and I got lost and went into the wrong apartment, I don't know your boyfriend!" haha, it was pretty strange. But she was still really upset about it and I don't think she believe me. So I left to try to find my sister. This apartment complex was actually more like a huge ass hotel because when I went to the first floor to find my sister there was a huge swimming pool and a bunch of people. I walked around for a bit but couldn't find her. Then I found my way back to her apartment and I saw her laying in bed and I was like "oh my god I feel terrible I accidentally walked into this other apartment half naked with this girl's boyfriend and now she thinks we were messing around"...my sister was laying in her bed next to that girl who was upset. My sister said "yeah this is my friend so and so" and she introduced us and I talked to her about it and she finally believed me and felt better. Then we all kinda laughed about it and I think I woke up after that.

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      Originally posted by Nina
      really really hot gay guy friend (that likes having sex with girls haha)
      Ok, don't mean to sound shallow, but this sounds more to me like a guy with a scam than an actual gay guy (a scam that apparently works, too). I mean, the fact that you were comfortable being "exposed" to him kinda gives some insight as to why so many women like gay guys (and there's nothing wrong with that, mind you - just sayin).

      Anyway, the dream:

      It's funny how the mind works. When I got to the part about Dave's friend arriving at the appartment, I thought for sure there was going to be some kind of incident between you and him (like the friend thinking Dave was cheating with you). However, instead, that portion of the dream simply concluded with no problems.

      Instead...

      It resurfaced with another dream character (apparently a heterosexual one). In this case you were totally uncomfortable being exposed to him. Yet, this time you managed to get the reaction we should have seen in the first portion of the dream. Strange how that theme slipped away in the first story, but came back in the second.

      It's kinda like your mind said "ok, this isn't going to work, there's too much trust between her and Dave etc. We need to try this again, a different way."

      Naughty Nina, who you been thinkin about cheatin with?

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      *ahem* 8)

      you seem to have a lot of sexy stuff happen in your dreams..

      Then I started yelling because I knew they could hear me \"I'm really sorry my sister just moved and I got lost and went into the wrong apartment, I don't know your boyfriend!\"[/b]
      this made me laugh..

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      I had a really vivid dream last night...gonna sound kinda bad but remember...it's JUST a dream. lmao

      Anyways...i was with my whole family, immediate family and cousins and aunts and uncles and stuff and we were all like working for customs or something. Where we would get these packages and have to sort them out. We were sort of like custom agents/cops/who the hell knows what. Anyway I think I was like new to the job because we got this huge package of drugs in and I was sitting at a picnic table with someone across from me and they were showing me how to properly sort the drugs LOL. The rest of my family was either at other picnic tables or walking around making sure everything was going ok.

      So this person showed me how people disguised certain packages...like we got this huge package of "crack" and it was inside of a huge bar of chocolate that looked like a toblerone or something. Anyway, we'd have to go through the chocolate and get out these pieces of foil and unfold them and lay them out to be taken as evidence because the "crack" or whatever the hell was attached to the foil squares hidden inside the chocolate. So I was handed my own bar of chocolate and continued doing what I was supposed to be doing. Then I remember thinking, hmm I've never tried crack before I wonder what it would be like. So I very carefully took one of the foil squares and put it in the front pouch of my hooded sweatshirt. I remember trying to be like super discreet so no one would see me.

      Then I started getting these other, different chocolate things. One was a big round bar of chocolate and I remember thinking, what the hell is in this? Then I got all these different chocolate things. One was in the shape of a teddybear, I remember looking at all of them closely to see if they had anything written on them. I remember on chocolate thing had etched into it "alprazolam" haha...go figure. Anyway I kept looking through them, and we had to break all the chocolate into pieces and I remember getting this one and for some reason I knew it was like...X....so I took the whole oval shaped thing of chocolate and stuck it in the pouch of my sweatshirt also. Then I kept sorting and at one point I remember the bar of chocolate fell out of my sweatshirt and landed on the ground and I was freaked out that someone might see but I don't think anyone noticed. And that's all I remember from that dream.

      Later on in the morning I had a dream that I was at Kings Island (this amusement park near where I live) with my parents and my sister...I remember being by some games where we thought we might want to play against each other but instead we decidided to go on the roller coasters. So we went on Son of the Beast...which is like my favorite ride there...but at one point the roller coaster changed into this weird other ride where I was suspended in mid air and dropped to the floor below on these bungee cords. Hmmm strange stuff...I remember walking out to the parking lot with my family and we were supposed to meet up with my uncle and cousins (who live halfway across the globe but were in town visiting) then it started to rain I think and we went home.

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      Well last night was kind of insane...it was one of those nights where you feel like you are waking up every five minutes and therefore feel like you got absolutely NO sleep at all. But then if that were true I guess I wouldn't remember so many dreams and the details about them. All a bit confusing.

      The first dream...hmm I was walking down the street with this other person, I think it was a chick...and we were looking for some house to go into because we wanted to hook up. Right, weird I know. Sooo for some reason all the houses were these cute little houses and they were all vacated so we just went into some random house and I was sitting on this couch and this chick wanted to go down on me really bad so I was like, ok. Anyway she was doing that for awhile and I remember thinking that it didn't feel so great, I mean she was like one of those freakin algae sucker fish things that you see up against the glass of a fish tank...so I pulled her off and then she kinda disappeared.

      Then I was there with some of my friends, 2 girls and their boyfriends and they were all eating this chicken. They each had one of those little whole chickens...I didn't eat any chicken but I just hung out and talked to them. Then one of my friends boyfriends started bitching and yelling because of the mess. He was pissed off because there were like chicken bones all over the floor and he was yelling at me and I was like...wow you guys ate the chicken I didn't eat any chicken!

      The next dream is really weird because I think I actually had the same dream earlier that night and then had it again so like I already knew everything that was going to happen. There was this huge war, we were in space and at some big palace place with lots of windos and glass walls on the first floor. We were being invaded by a huge herd of, um...buffalo. I know, right? But they were like smart buffalo not just stupid animals lmao. Anyway...Aragorn and Legolas were there and a bunch of other people ready to fight...we were like at a stand off all standing inside the palace looking out these glass walls or windows at all these scary ass buffalo. Then all of a sudden they all snorted at the same time and it was so loud that it shattered the glass. It was all like slow motion and special effects watching this glass shatter...really bizarre. Then Legolas yells...don't worry they can't come in here...they weren't invited. But since I had already had this dream before I knew they were going to come in anyway so I started running. Then Legolas yells "RUN!" and everyone runs up these marble staircases and at the tops of the staircases were all these statues (sort of like at the Louvre) and then all the buffalo come stampeding in. Me and Legolas were at the top of a staircase standing on top of these pillars on either side of one of the statues. There were arrows flying everywhere and Aragorn was fighting with swords. Then, like Mad Moragen (or whatever his name is from Willow) shows up and starts fighting as well. I remember that we were doing pretty well and I think winning.

      Then suddenly we were outside of the palace and in this spaceship. There were hundreds of spaceships flying around, some of them were like storm trooper spaceships with the bulls in them and others were on our side and we were kicking their asses. Yeah so it was like...LOTR meets Star Wars kinda. Weird shit. So as we are flying to get away from the battle I notice that we aren't in a real spaceship but we are like flying in this fucking silver metallic station wagon! And I'm like...what the fuck we can't outrun anyone in a station wagon. Then some idiot in the car/spaceship decides to put the windows down and one of the bulls in his spaceship catches a glimpse of us inside this piece of junk and we are swerving and trying to get away but we were so slow. I'm not sure what happened.

      Ok, another crazy ass dream...there was this talk show...like a Jerry Springer dealio and it was like "So, you wanna be a stripper"...now I wasn't in this dream at all I was more like observing it like I would be watching it on TV. There is this fat blonde chick and her husband is all bent out of shape because she thinks she can be a stripper and crap. So she is up on stage in practically nothing, it's so gross she had 1980s bangs and everything. Then they bring like 50 REAL strippers out onto stage and they all start dancing (not taking clothes off or anything) but they were just giving the one fat chick alot of shit for trying to be a stripper it was really quite funny because she actually tried to keep up with them for a bit...then just stood there and looked like an ass.

      Then it switched and became this "documentary" about fat strippers. I just remember it like following this one chick around for a day as she was getting ready and picking out what she was going to wear, and what it was like to be a fat stripper. LMAO. Really really strange night.

      The last dream I remember. My sister and I were sitting around the tree on Christmas morning. We were surrounding by our presents and such ready to be opened and my mom and dad were there. Then we got our stockings and opened those...and my mom said to go ahead and open our presents. It was kind of odd though because all the presents we got were like the same ones as last year. So we were both thinking like...oh cool thanks...this is weird I got this last year. Eventually we had opened all the presents and the tree was empty underneath. I suddenly felt really really horrible. My sister looks at me and she says, "didn't we get mom anything for christmas?" I just sat there feeling soo horrible. Then my mom goes to the kitchen to start breakfast. "What about dad didn't we get him anything either?" It was like the worst feeling EVER...I felt like such a horrible ungrateful little shit. I didn't even know what to say. I was glad when I woke up.

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      haha you do have some funny dreams.. LOTR in space.. now that would make a funny film

      wish i had funny dreams.
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      Lmfao..Damn..and I thought MY mind was entertaining. lol. 8)
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      Ah, those epic dreams (the space/buffalo/LOTR one)
      I believe those are just as good as lucid ones (at least when it's been a very long time since the last LD).

      Blondes:Just curious, was this "sucker fish" girl blonde? I was wondering because you have a fat blonde stripper in one dream and Legolas in another (who, pretty much looks like a blonde chick in LOTR). I thought maybe if the other girl was blonde you might have somekind of "blonde ambition" thing or something.

      Chicken and buffalo: Hmmm, chicken wings....buffalo wings.... eh, maybe that's a stretch. Have you been to BW3's in the past few days, maybe?

      Mad Moragen - LOL! Sweet, one of my favorites as well (Val Kilmer). Probably not the most popular character; but funny how your mind throws crap like that in. I mean why not Conan, the Gladiator, or Beast Master! Different time-periods, I guess.

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      Alrighty...I had to lay in bed for a minute this morning because I know I dreamt alot last night and it took me a bit to remember and piece things together. So here's as best I could do.

      The first dream I was in some house that I didn't recognize and in this big bedroom, that was my bedroom but looks nothing like my real bedroom. Outside my bedroom there was a big tv room where all these guys that I had dated at one time or another were hangin out and they were all talking about me and stuff. It was rather strange. Then my latest ex bf (the one I was with for 3.5 years and am still really great friends with) got really upset about all those other guys being there. I don't know why, or why I even cared, or why he was even in my dream...but I was upset that he was upset. I didn't want him thinking bad things about me so I went out into the TV room and told the guys to quiet down and I said..."ok who here besides YOU (pointing to my ex) have I slept with?" No one raised their hands or said anything. I looked at my ex and said "see!" then I stormed off and slammed my bedroom door shut. I remember being at this desk when my ex came in...I figured he would feel better and apologize for acting like an ass but instead he just set this packet of papers on my desk and walked out. I couldn't believe it. He was suing me! I remember reading through all the stupid ass shit like "gas money driving her around" "drinks at the bars" "dinners" "birthday, christmas, valentines day, anniversary presents" etc...and they all had an "estimate" along with them. I remember it was some ridiculous amount of money that he wanted and it really pissed me off considering he never spent a dime more than me throughout our relationship. It was very equal. I just remember flipping through the pages just stunned...

      The next dream my mom and my aunt and 2 cousins were going on a trip and I decided to go along. They were going somewhere like LA but it was more like a spring break party type of place. Anyway I remember being at this bar...and I was sitting in a chair next to my one cousin while my mom and aunt and other cousin were on stage doing karaoke. I forget the first song they sang but the second one was a Green Day song lmao (thanks Truthbearer)...anyway they were just being sucky and silly and I remember that my ex bf was there (again) with like 2 of his friends and they were sitting a row behind me and my cousin. They kept talking shit about the karaoke and I remember trying to ignore them but they just kept talking loud enough so that I could hear them and made me feel like crap.

      Then I saw Dunkin, one of my sister's good gay guy friends over by the karaoke machine and I was so excited to see him. He saw me too and did this little "come ere" thing with his finger and I got up and went over and gave him a huge hug. I remember that my ex and his friends were staring at me kinda like "who the hell is that". Then I went and sat back down with my cousin and watched my family singing on stage. "Sometimes I give myself the creeps...sometimes my mind plays tricks on me". Haha I remember my aunt was like one line behind through the whole song it was funny as hell.

      Another dream...my sister was trying out for this model/actress contract and it was her audition and she invited the whole family (the whole extended family) to watch. I remember her havin to sing something and like halfway through the song they stopped her and were like congratulations you got the contract. It was worth a million dollars lmao. I just remember running and hugging her because we were all so excited and we were happy b/c she got the job in chicago and we could stay there and didn't have to move so far away to LA.

      I think there was another one...but I forget, maybe it will come to me later.

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      Originally posted by Tornado Joe
      Ah, those epic dreams (the space/buffalo/LOTR one)
      I believe those are just as good as lucid ones (at least when it's been a very long time since the last LD).

      Blondes:Just curious, was this \"sucker fish\" girl blonde? I was wondering because you have a fat blonde stripper in one dream and Legolas in another (who, pretty much looks like a blonde chick in LOTR). I thought maybe if the other girl was blonde you might have somekind of \"blonde ambition\" thing or something.

      Chicken and buffalo: Hmmm, chicken wings....buffalo wings.... eh, maybe that's a stretch. Have you been to BW3's in the past few days, maybe?

      Mad Moragen - LOL! Sweet, one of my favorites as well (Val Kilmer). Probably not the most popular character; but funny how your mind throws crap like that in. I mean why not Conan, the Gladiator, or Beast Master! Different time-periods, I guess.
      Hmmm I don't remember the sucker fish girl that much (lmao) but I'm pretty sure she was a brunette. And Legolas does NOT look like a blonde chick haha, he's sexy as shit. But yeah I've always wondered what it would be like to be a blonde. I always seem to get more attention when I have blonde highlights in my hair and I am considering getting them again.

      Ok the bit about chicken and buffalo really made me laugh, I love that connection hahaha. But actually I think the buffalo came from this Gary Larsen Far Side comic I saw recently where it is like, a view from the buffalo's perspective and you can just see the top of his head and horns and what he is looking at. B/c I had the same sort of view at one point during the dream.

      And yeas, I think Mad Moragen showed up b/c I was all like...go Aragorn you are the best swordsman! Then Mad Moragen is all like "I am the greatest swordsman who ever lived." Haha...ah...good dream. Thanks for the feedback.

      EDIT: Oh yeah when they were all eating chicken they were eating it like it was wrapped in foil...just like from the movie Girl, Interrupted. I have no idea where that came from seeing as how I haven't seen that movie in a long time. And I don't know what the connection is with my friends "eating chicken" and the girl who eats chicken from her dad (who molests her I think?) in the movie.

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      Yeyyyyy Lucid!!!

      It's about damn time already!

      Last night I woke up feeling sort of sick. Like there was a huge knot in my stomach and I had been having weird and bad dreams. I came online, it was about 2:30am and saw that DV was back up and was in shock, I talked to Ophelia for awhile and went back so sleep at 4am.

      Something woke me and brought me into a bit of a shallow sleep where I felt the WILD vibrations and immediately entered a lucid dream. I remember floating up through this tree...it was night time, and as I was floating up through the branches I grabbed at handfuls of leaves which were damp and smooth and soooo realistic.

      The dream seemed so incredibly vivid and then began to fade. I looked at my hands to steady myself, as I examined them in detail I found myself in this room of people. There were several dream characters and a girl in particular that I am not sure who she was but I remember that I was with her for awhile, then I said, hold on, I have to go do something. I had been making very interesting progress with my praying in LDs (even though I am not all that religious anymore) so I wanted to get back to it and see where I could get to.

      I have twice been confronted with God/a god through a wall. So I entered this room which happened to be full of buddhist monks. I walked past them and went up to this wall. There was a couch against the wall so I stepped up onto the couch and put my hands up high flat on the wall. I began to say the Our Father. I thought that God might pull me through the wall. As I was saying the prayer (and my eyes were closed this whole time trying to concentrate and remember the words to the prayer) I began to feel...like something around my wrists. It felt like someone had reached through the wall and had grasped onto my wrists. I felt their grip tightly...tight...yet comforting. They were not just holding my wrists, they were like holding my arms up as well. I remember smiling.

      Then I switched prayers to the Hail Mary. As I was saying this prayer...I felt an additional set of hands, woman's hands reach through the wall and grasp onto my arms...lower than where the first pair was holding onto around my wrists. She was also holding me up. I lifted my head up to look as I felt that they had tightly grasped onto my arms. As I looked up all I could see was the wall on front of me, which was blue as it had been the whole time. Then I noticed that the skin on my arms was depressed to show their actual hand prints...as if two invisible people were grasping onto me. It was a really strange thing to see. I wasn't disappointed that they didn't pull me through the wall...I was just comforted in the fact that they were indeed holding onto me and I felt that they were smiling. So I smiled back and then sort of moved back and they released me.

      I remember turning around to look at the buddhist monks behind me. I tried to sort of wave them away or make them disappear with my hand but they didn't. I wasn't sure if I should try to talk to them or not so I left the room and went back to the one girl I was talking to. I still have no idea who she was. I remember that I didn't want to be rude so I invited her to come flying with me, I remember we flew together for awhile and then the dream sort of faded so we tried to dream spin together and I lost her. She just disappeared.

      I know that I was lucid for quite a long time and did alot of other things because I remember flying through different rooms and walls and doors to get to different places but my mind managed to forget the rest of my lucid.

      The strange thing is that I actually remember getting somewhat bored and running out of things to do. I thought to do the lucid task of the month but then realized I didn't know what it was. Then someone yelled out to me, don't forget to find Howetzer. My god! What was I thinking, I had completely forgotten. I woke up before I could ever try to do anything to find him. I need to stop forgetting about that one but at least I was able to revisit one of my other personal tasks this past time.

      Here is a quick thing I made to help me remember my dream. I think I am going to start doing this more.


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      Originally posted by Aquanina
      ... I looked at my hands to steady myself, as I examined them in detail I found myself in this room of people. There were several dream characters and a girl in particular that I am not sure who she was but I remember that I was with her for awhile, then I said, hold on, I have to go do something. I had been making very interesting progress with my praying in LDs (even though I am not all that religious anymore) so I wanted to get back to it and see where I could get to.

      I have twice been confronted with God/a god through a wall. So I entered this room which happened to be full of buddhist monks. I walked past them and went up to this wall. There was a couch against the wall so I stepped up onto the couch and put my hands up high flat on the wall. I began to say the Our Father. I thought that God might pull me through the wall. As I was saying the prayer (and my eyes were closed this whole time trying to concentrate and remember the words to the prayer) I began to feel...like something around my wrists. It felt like someone had reached through the wall and had grasped onto my wrists. I felt their grip tightly...tight...yet comforting. They were not just holding my wrists, they were like holding my arms up as well. I remember smiling.

      Then I switched prayers to the Hail Mary. As I was saying this prayer...I felt an additional set of hands, woman's hands reach through the wall and grasp onto my arms...lower than where the first pair was holding onto around my wrists. She was also holding me up. I lifted my head up to look as I felt that they had tightly grasped onto my arms. As I looked up all I could see was the wall on front of me, which was blue as it had been the whole time. Then I noticed that the skin on my arms was depressed to show their actual hand prints...as if two invisible people were grasping onto me. It was a really strange thing to see. I wasn't disappointed that they didn't pull me through the wall...I was just comforted in the fact that they were indeed holding onto me and I felt that they were smiling. So I smiled back and then sort of moved back and they released me.

      I remember turning around to look at the buddhist monks behind me. I tried to sort of wave them away or make them disappear with my hand but they didn't. I wasn't sure if I should try to talk to them or not so I left the room and went back to the one girl I was talking to. I still have no idea who she was. I remember that I didn't want to be rude so I invited her to come flying with me, I remember we flew together for awhile and then the dream sort of faded so we tried to dream spin together and I lost her. She just disappeared....
      Okay... the Buddhist Monks are a symbol for the vindication of the Concept of a Providential God and the utility of Meditation and other forms of Mental Prayer. You see, you were in the Room of Meditation and walked up to the Wall, and stood on the couch that ordinary people woud sit on, but you needed to prove something (thank God for feminine Intuition!) and so you reached up to touch the Wall, to perhaps go through it. But what happened was that God came through from the other side, proving PROVIDENTIALITY (certain Philosophers had argued that even if there IS a God, unless that God is Providential, then it hardly matters to us whether He exists at all -- a Non-Providential God would be a Moot Point).

      You were able to invoke the support of both Male and Female aspects of the Providential Divinity.

      You were not able to magically wand away the Buddhist Monks, which show that they are in some sense real. This Room is where they receive the Providential Influences and Support of their Meditational Practices.

      In my own way of thinking, I had supposed that one had to break through into the Heavenly Realms in order to attain to any Divine Influence -- the 'Seek and you shall Find, and Knock and it will be opened' kind of model of seeing Spirituality. But this Dream of yours shows the Divine Influence going in the other direction -- that Divinity reciprocates and can send its solid, if invisible, influence to our side of The Wall.

      You see, it only took a little bit of waiting and you have these very meaningful dreams. Just this one dream alone is enough to create an entire Religious Doctrine upon. ... I must be sure to copy it over, so I don't forget about it.

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      Thank you for your insightful comments as usual Leo. Yeah I am excited that I was able to try this again. Though praying in my dreams has been giving me some interesting results...I wonder if there is something more...active that I can be doing during my lucids other than simply saying a prayer to try to evoke some sort of spiritual beings. Any thoughts? I am not really sure where, if anywhere, this is getting me?

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      I wonder if there is something more...active that I can be doing during my lucids other than simply saying a prayer to try to evoke some sort of spiritual beings. Any thoughts?[/b]
      How about designing and building your own temple/church/sanctuary. You could even pull up menus and palettes from Cinema4D in your environment - have them floating around you and stuff. Render the place with the wave of your hand! It could be as if you were in the 3D space itself!

      Then, for fun, climb up on the altar, sumon a group of raging sex addicts and have yourself a MASS orgy!!


      Damn, I wish I could LD more often!

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      Last night I know I had a long and vivid dream. I can only remember bits and pieces of it though.

      I wasn't in it...there were two main characters, Denzel Washington (who was me I suppose) and Angelina Jolie. She was dressed up Tomb Raider style through the whole dream.

      Something had happened and she stole time like she does in Tomb Raider, I remember that she was my adversary throughout the whole dream, but I still sort of cared for her. It was like I knew she was just a foolish little girl and didn't truly mean to hurt anyone or mess things up but I still had to take her down. It was my job. I guess I was some sort of investigator. She had become an assasin of some kinda, but she didn't start out that way. I think that people were after her and she had to kill them in order to keep the control that she had. I remember facing her in the end, she had wired some sort of explosive and was ready to set it off and kill me. I'm not sure where we were. In some sort of hangar, there was a huge airboat and a ventillation thing that was covered by a grate that she stodd over. I can't remember exactly what happened but there was a huge explosion. I remember that the cover blew off the ventillation shaft and I was thrown up into the air. She fell into the shaft which was a huge hole that continued on forever, all the way to hell. I remember yelling something down to her...I can't remember exactly. It was some weird words of wisdom like "It's what you know that matters" but not that. I wish I could remember more. She was screaming as she fell and I remember feeling sorry for her. Then she got stuck towards the bottom of the shaft and there was fire everywhere. She got stuck sort of like how Neo and the rest are when they are in the walls in the Matrix, except the walls were red hot and there was fire. The camera angle moved so that it was right up next to her. She was screaming and the flesh was burning and peeling off her skin as the flames scorched her. Even her hair melted off. Then suddenly the flames ceased a bit and her skin was back to normal. The place where she was stuck began to glow less red and she became blurry. Then suddenly all these little children's hands broke through the wall and began to pull at her. She was still screaming. All their little hands pulled her through the wall and I remember thinking that she was in hell.

      Then the dream changed to me sitting at a library. I was reading about her...and the things that she did in the past during the time at which she had stolen time. She was called many different names. And at one time she had been hired by Queen Elizabeth to murder someone, it was really bizarre. Then I was at this house. There was a little black girl sitting down in a chair. She kept repeating something over and over again. It appeared that she was autistic. I remember talking to the parents about it and they had said that she was posessed. I walked over to the girl who kept repeating one line over and over again. I think it was the same line that I had yelled out to her as she fell to her death. Suddenly this little girl looked up at me as if she snapped out of this trance she was in and said something to me. I knew right away that she was posessed by the tormented spirit of this woman who died so horribly. I can't remember much after that...

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      whoa...I had an incredible amazing long lucid dream last night and into the morning, a few hours at least but honestly I have been sooo distracted today that I just havent had the time or will to write it down yet so most of it is forgotten

      Here are the bits and pieces I remember.

      I was sleeping in my bed when I remember opening my eyes and looking out my window, it looked like the sun was coming up and there was a barn out my window. Right away I knew this wasn't right because it was still dark out, my window curtains were down and there is a golf course in my backyard not a barn. So I just sort of layed there waiting to become lucid.

      Eventually it was like I just woke up and was able to get out of my bed and flew out my window...I flew around all over the place. Anytime my dream faded I would just look at my hands and concentrate on them and it would all come back to me with amazing clairity. The dreamscape changed and I was in the basement of some house, I remember having some issues with my dream control. I was all alone and I wanted to make someone appear and I spent forever looking around the house for them but I couldn't find them. Then I did the only thing I could think of...I went and sat down at this computer in the basement and I went through this program that lets you "download" a person haha. I looked through all these different prototypes and saw this one that looked like a certain someone I wanted to be with so I picked him and watched the little download bar. I remember thinking he was supposed to appear in the closet once downloaded, so I open up the closet and it's empty. Then I spend another five minutes at least searching through this house to find this guy I just downloaded. Anytime I felt the dream fading I would again look at my hands and this allowed me to stay lucid for a number of hours. I probably had to do this like every five or ten minutes or so though at least.

      I remember seeing a shadow upstairs so I went up there, and there he was! I was so excited I think I pounced on him right away and wrapped my legs around his waist. We fell with my back up agaist the wall and well I'll leave the rest up to the imagination. But I just remember that I was really light, or maybe he was just really strong, and that it was awesome.

      I'm not sure how things changed from there...I might have faded into another dreamscape, alot of times that happens when I lose myself during lucid sex. I remember trying to break down a door for awhile but I couldn't. I was so frustrated with my lack of control. I tried to focus and give it a hard karate chop or a karate kick but it would just sort of react as if it was rubber. Finally I gave up and turned the knob and flew off.

      I flew nina style for awhile which was fun as usually but I didn't get the typical rush because the ground below me was cloudy and hazy so I couldn't watch anything whizzing by like normal. I remember trying to think of things to do. I considered praying but I didn't really feel like that...and I figured Howetzer would be awake and didn't bother to try to find him. Though I don't know why I didn't because he was most likely still asleep. I think my concept of time was a bit messed up. I don't know what this month's lucid task is and I hadn't tried last month's yet so I decided to give it a shot.

      As I was flying there was a huge lake with all these people just kinda floating around having a good time. I flew over them and was like, ok ok people hold up I got a question. "Where am I?" Someone yells out, North Dakota...then another person yells out, West Dakota, then West Carolina, then North Virginia...it was obvious that they were drunk and fucking with me. I don't know why all my DCs are so goddamn sarcastic. They usually suck. Either have no personality and just an empty shell of a person or they are completely removed from me and sarcastic and couldn't care less about me.

      I continued to fly around for awhile longer and I'm sure I did alot more I just can't really remember anything else.

      Oh, I forgot, when I was in the basement of that house I remember talking to rtex about his three month long dream. I wanted to attempt to stay in my dream as long as I could so I continued to say to myself over and over again that I would remain in my dream for as long as I could. I remember looking at my reflection in this mirror and staring into my eyes and saying that I would stay there for a long time. Then my aunt appeared and told me that I couldn't stay there, and that someone needed me to wake up. Anyay when I did woke up I found that someone really did need me because he was lonely hehe.

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