I gave up on the technique after it seemingly stopped working. I don't know why it randomly stopped. What is the suggested sleep range so you can go lucid?
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I gave up on the technique after it seemingly stopped working. I don't know why it randomly stopped. What is the suggested sleep range so you can go lucid?
I'm having partial success so far. The vividness has increased quite a bit, but I'm still breaking out of a dry spell. I woke up 3 times last night, and I think each time was when I was starting to become lucid.
For me, I think it's a lack of sensation where there should be something. During my last fragment last night, I was walking bare-footed in snow and noticed that I couldn't feel the cold on my feet. *poof, wake up.
...now if I could just stay calm and stabilize...
I have ADHD so it's a lot harder for me to focus on many things. I tend to hyperfocus on one thing for long periods of time. For example, when painting , I'd paint on the same canvas for 12 hours strait and don't even remember the time. I also lack the ability to concentrate well or focus on important details. Just wonder if any of you guys have a similar disability that prevents you from noticing little details. How can you deal with it? On a positive note, I started using ADA yesterday and last night I had a a vivid dream which I haven't had for at least two weeks so this definitely works:) I'm going to keep using this technique and hopefully I'll be able to concentrate more.
I have similar problems concentrating on multiple things at once (like you)... So i just focus on one thing (breathing in and out, various noises or feel of something):S
I've gotten used to it now. Popping it back in has become second nature. Old sports injury :P. Good luck to you!
Well, the REM period starts to get ideal after around 4 hours of sleep. If you have already slept over four hours, woke up, and want to try to lucid dream during a nap, its best to nap 1-8 hours after waking up. Of course, you can lucid dream outside of these target ranges, but these are the ideal times. Also, how long did you practice ADA? Recall can always be a problem. If your dream recall is struggling then I would work on that before trying lucid induction techniques.
Yeah, you seem to be right on the edge of completely breaking out of it. If you find that you are waking up quickly upon becoming lucid, you might want to try DEILD and get back into the dream. A few of these may completely erase the quick wake-up problem. I also have become lucid before because I couldn't feel snow on my bare feet. That is awesome!
I would suggest that you just take the technique slow. Start out just performing ADA in short sessions. This will help your mind get used to the idea. I think it can definitely help with your concentration and your ADHD. Just don't give up or get discouraged. Work your way into the technique and try to get a bit of a feel for it before going all out.
Like Laretta stated, you can narrow your ADA practice to a few sensations. Once you get used to those, you can add a new sensation and practice with those. Keep adding new sensations and build up to where you are using all of your senses. Just take your time, there is no rush. There are many, many dream opportunities ahead.
Also, my dreams became more intense and vivid than before - I remember more of my past dreams (or more than 2 dreams) :)
I've been focusing on being aware of sounds for the past day and a half because i thought it would be the easiest sense to practice ADA with, and damn it is really challenging. Its also really exhausting but I love it. At first I tried to only practice being aware of sound whenever im in my car, but now i have expanded it to whereever i go, to whatever im doing. Right now as im typing this im focusing in on the sound that each keyboard makes, my fan clattering, the wind movement that its causing, my breath. I also had two very long dreams this morning, although i also got a lot of sleep.
I think i can sum up ADA as a battle against mental laziness. I can see how if youre stressed or have a busy lifestyle, it is easy to surrender to your thoughts and forget whats going on around you. ADA is definitely keeping my mind at bay.
Is this the same as Dream Yoga?
(This account is too new to post the link but it's a thread posted by Billybob in 2007). Here's the overview
"Traditional Dream Yoga is a constant awareness of your current state of being. The goal of professional Dream Yogis is to attain a state of nonstop reality check - that is, a state of mind wherein the Yogi never loses consciousness of his environment and mental/biological processes."
Hi there! I'm going to start using this technique and I'll tell you how it goes. (:
After I read the tutorial I immediately starting noticing more details and I will try to notice them alot more.
My dreams right now aren't that vivid, but I hope that will change.
Thank you for this tutorial!
Awesome! Sounds excellent and just keep up the good work.
Yeah, I like your "battle against mental laziness" theory a lot. It sounds like you are doing well and just continue to try and improve your practice as you get further into the process. Congrats on your long dreams good luck to you!
Well, with your WBTB, you really just need to play around with the times. You want to be tired enough to where you can return to sleep easily, but awake enough to where you won't crash out and lose consciousness. Make sure you aren't keeping your mind too active when you are performing the WILD technique. This can cause you to lay awake with little results.
As for the awareness, it just takes some practice and getting used to. Early on in your practice, it won't feel like one big day-long reality check. That is what you will be working toward. Just stick with it and keep training your mind to get used to it.
Ah, I haven't read Billybob's technique, but it sounds very similar. Awareness is definitely nothing new when it comes to lucid dreaming. As you will find across many other guides on the site (Naiya's and Puffin's as well), awareness practice is a focal point.
No problem and good luck to you in your practice. Be sure to keep us updated on your progress as well :D!
Cool, I'll start incorporating more awareness into my waking life as soon as my transition to polyphasic sleep is complete.
Well it's only been about 24 hours so I can't really say much, but so far so good lol. I drove to Toronto and back without dying so I'm fine at the moment.
And I've heard conflicting theories. One is that your sleep with be 100% REM, another is than it will be mostly REM with a drastically decreased amount of NREM. Either way, it's not that I'll have more REM sleep than I do now, it's just a higher percent will be REM.
It's not the first 24 hours you need to worry about, wait until day 7 ;) But stick with it, I've heard that there are real benefits once you get over the initial hump (who wouldn't want more hours in the day?) I haven't tried it because it isn't practical for me at the moment and there hasn't been much research into long term side effects.
I would imagine it would greatly increase the power of MIlDs, rather than setting your intention for hours, you're setting your intention for the next 30 minutes, same with DILD, you've very recently experienced actual reality so it's easier to notice the difference in a dream.
Yeah, there have been many lucid dreamers over the years who loved polyphasic sleep. I practiced it for a while back in 2009, but my insomnia spells would cause problems with it. I ended up losing too much sleep.
I've never been able to fall asleep doing MILD and therefore never successfully have had a MILD. All of my LDs have been sudden "omg I'm dreaming, I will RC to check." I think this is because in waking life, I randomly, about 20 times a day, suddenly remember to be aware, and then I try to be aware for a few minutes until start day walking again. That's why I want to try this method as I think it is the reason for my abnormally high amount of LDs based on the little effort I put into it.
I was talking with robot_butler and he said during his year of polyphasic sleep, his dream yoga greatly improved leading to full day awareness. I'm looking forward to that as I agree with you KingYoshi, I was debating in my head over it a few years ago and I came to the conclusion that it is the key to having all dreams be LDs.
Yeah, I think so too. I just need to break this 30 LDs in a month barrier and I think I'll be able to progress a bit more
I've been stuck in the 20's for a while now
Hope you break that 30 mark soon! I'm getting more lucid experiences thanks to you but I've still got a lot of work to do before I'm as experienced as you. : D
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Well, I was tired today after going on a long walk with my dog so I figured I should take a nap this afternoon. It was a good opportunity for me to try to dream since I've been having trouble recalling my dreams overnight. I've been practicing KingYoshi's All Day Awareness technique every day and I've had a lot of lucid experiences (many of them short ones... but they're all a chance for me to practice my dream control and stabilization anyway) since I started. I'm practically guaranteed to not only remember my dreams when I nap in the afternoon but I'm probably going to have a lucid dream, as well. I love combining DILD and WBTB! It's a shame I can't remember most of my dreams overnight but working with my dreams in the afternoon is still very rewarding.
Thank you KingYoshi and Naiya!
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Thank you for the encouragement! It is much appreciated :D. It sounds like you are well on your way in lucid dreaming. Just keep practicing and working on building up your recall. Good luck to you!
This sounds alot like present awareness or thinking in the moment or mindfullness. It can be an amazing skill to have and not just for LDing, that's just an awesome side-effect of it. It can help to lower anxiety and depression as well and give you so much more clarity of thoughts and control over your emotions.
Many people have commented about ADA being challenging. There is no doubt that this technique involves a lot of practice. It's actually a step above meditation as it requires you to keep your eyes open and interact with the environment, making it much more easy to be distracted. KingYoshi is not messing around when he says that it'll take a while, but it's so worth it!
As for some advice, it might be helpful to know that when we are thinking about the present we are in the proper state. As soon as we think future thoughts, such as our wish/desires, or the past thoughts, such as regrets/memories, we have fallen off. That's okay though, just get back on. A nice slogon for this might be, "Fall 7 times, Standup 8." You get stronger each time. :) Remember that keeping the mind focused on just sensations is key to staying in the moment and accessing our environment for clues.
When you are doing this right it can seem like the whole world has slowed down and became very still. And when the mind is quiet, the mind is clear. It is sharp. An old metaphor is comparing a still pond to a rippling one. A still pond is clear and reflects the truth whereas if the water is rippling, even just a bit, it can take from the clarity of our thoughts. Our emotions can play a big part in this as well as you might have guessed.
So, if you're reading this and you are finding that ADA is not helping as much as you'd expect it to for LDing then keep doing it for the benefits of clarity of mind, then perhaps given a little time you will see results with LD's because you are not so anxious acheiving something. Just relax. Forget about the past and future and the results you haven't got for the last 6 months of hard work. The past is only a memory anyways and the future an abstraction. Love the fact that you are mastering your mind.
Then the results will really come.
Very, very nice carebear :D! Yeah, ADA, mindfulness, Dream Yoga, Walking Meditation, etc...they are all the same basic idea/concept. A very encouraging post. Thanks :D!!
Still no LDs - but my dreams became very clear (my deams are not really blurry but not that HD-like, vivid ones.... :D) since I started practicing this! I don't know how to achieve Lucidity because I'm afraid to do a lot of things in my dreams and I'm always very relaxed.... Although I have better recall and clearer dreams than before :confused: :uhm:
I've read many things about lucid dreaming - but never heard something about ADA. Only the information to train beeing aware the whole day. Plausible because daily awareness = dream awareness :D. So thanks =) for the information.
Would it be better for ADA noobs to do this in a quiet place? Or focus on certain senses then as we get better start using more?
But I did this yesterday and I think my dreams were easier to remember I was actually asking questions in my dream and thinking "this isn't right" but didn't go lucid.