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Lay off him a bit yuppie, it's just grammar. If it get's the message across then it works. You still understand it, what you are trying to get into your head. It's not like the mantra was a lot of key words like "dream tonight mantra lucid me". That would be a stupid mantra. But if it's "I lucid dream tonight" then it means tonight, you lucid dream. Your mind thinks tonight, and then lucid dream, and puts two and two together.
I tried this last night, and.. It works!! I wanted to remember my dream and as a second choice have a lucid and so this is generally what happened.
I was on a mission to the moon for NASA(I would assume. I didn't have that detail in the dream) and I was standing outside the lunar lander in a red uniform of sorts and wearing the helmet that is more like a glass fishbowl that the astronauts were wearing in Apollo 13(the movie) then the actual helmet one would wear. Anyway I walked a little of the way away from(convoluted sequence of words lol:)) the lander when I could feel air leaking from my suit/uniform from the zipper and so covered it with my finger as I ran back to get the actual suit I was supposed to wear. Now this is were I should have realized that it was a dream because I spent at least 20 minutes of dream time trying to hook the oxygen up to my new helmet and ran out of air around 5 min. And so was holding my breath the whole time. Lol anyway at some point a new guy showed up and he couldn't breath because we had earlier misplaced(remember this percieved belief about what happened) the breather attachment so I went back in time turned into a girl(odd this lol) and stole the original breather(time loop/paradox thing. Awesome as I like time paradoxes) anyway he got the breather and then that is where I start to lose recollection. I have trouble lucid dreaming as I already am in totall control of my dreams. If it starts to turn bad and scary I will make it better if I want to go down a specific hallway I will. What is annoying is that I have absolutely no idea that these are dreams when having them(usually) so it isn't that I need to become lucid it is that I need to become lucid that I am lucid. :)
Thanks,
Wraith500000
Woh :D
thanks for posting ;)
Your welcome.
Placebo.
Do it again and I will be convinced and will try it mysELF.
AND YES, MY CAPS LOCK JUST BROKE.
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and we all heard you the first time :/
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You annoy me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
And to you as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by rynkrt3
Either say it or don't say anything.
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Placebo.
Do it again and I will be convinced and will try it mysELF.
AND YES, MY CAPS LOCK JUST BROKE.
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Ok, I shall. I couldn't do it last night because I stayed up to late and had to get up at 7 and needed my sleep. In the end I only got 2 1/2 hours of sleep. :( so hopefully I will remember to do it tonight.(I am in school after 5/6 years of homeschooling, very tiring)
Thanks,
Wraith500000
I have no issue to someone asking for repeatable evidence and will gladly gather data. I would just like to point out that some things work for some people and not so for others. This could be one of them. I don't see why if it doesn't work again it must be a placebo. Also if you haven't done it yourself how can you call it a placebo?
A placebo is when you believe in something so much it works on some level. For instance if you read a random topic and everyone in it said they got a lucid that night from doing whatever was in the topic, then you would believe it would give you a lucid. You would go to bed with that belief, that "knowing" you would succeed, and odds are you would, through placebo. But that doesn't make it work if it won't, and so the next night or whenever it will fail, and you are left wondering why.
Now if this works for a few days afterwards and keeps going, then it can't be placebo, it actually works. That's what I'm waiting for. I'm not "hurr, this is new, I'm don't think it's going to work, therefore every success is placebo", I'm monitoring this and everyone's attempts to see if it works before putting my time into it. There are loads of people on DV, ready to try new things. I'm already trying out two new techniques myself, I'm not going to take another on board unless some people here can confirm it works.
you dont have to say its a placebo over and over againQuote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
because a) you could be wrong
b) it might hinder our progress
so just keep it to yourself kay? :)
DO NOT COME ON SOMEONE ELSES THREAD SCREAMING "PLACEBO, PLACEBO" UNTIL YOU HAVE TRIED IT. Ignorant shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
I lucid dream every night?Quote:
Originally Posted by yuppie11975
Thanks Solarflare! I'm unsure if it was you're technique, but i think by just trying it i had an LD. I was trying to improve my dream recall with this, and i ended up with an LD recalled, 2 non-lucids, and a fragment!
Calm the fuck down man, jesus christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by rynkrt3
Listen, how was I screaming PLACEBO all over this thread? I never said it wasn't go to work or I hoped it didn't work or everyone who tried it was going to fail.
I thought about my post earlier and yes, I agree, it was a little ignorant of me to just point that out.
But holy fuck calm down mate, overkill.
And I do expect an apology for that.
thanks for posting your progress with the technique :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace19
calm the fuck down :/Quote:
Originally Posted by rynkrt3
^^^ Yes thank you! Someone else agrees.
And btw for me to keep saying that that ones guy's success was only placebo so far was wrong of me. I know I can say what I feel but saying it over and over again is wrong. I still hope this technique, like every other technique, works out and everyone doing it get's an increased amount of lucids.
I tried this last night but since I only had 2 1/2 hours of sleep last night I fell asleep in the middle of repeating the secondary want. As a consequence I remember my dream plot only vaguely and the dream is fairly hazy. So this time I will try and stick thru the process tonight. So hopefully tomorrow we will know if this is a technique that could work for more then a few people.
Thanks,
Wraith500000
Things are a bit chaotic on this thread, aren't they? Anyway, I like the idea and I may try it. The logic behind it is intriguing, and even if you disagree, at least it does have logic. A lot of threads claiming to have "new techniques" are just old rehashes (and sometimes identical copies) of the basic techniques. Yes, this builds off of a MILD, but it has an interesting spin.
Now, who's to say MILD isn't just one huge placebo? Even if solarflare's technique is a placebo, underneath the surface it's a MILD, which is a technique that's been tried and true. Therefore it should work, shouldn't it?
Edit: I was also thinking that maybe you really need that first priority mantra to stick in your head. Like, after repeating the second priority one around ten times or so, say the first priority one, then say the second priority mantra a few more times and repeat. To really get it to stick, maybe making sure it's the last one you say. But that's just an idea.
Hmm, you can try that, it does seem interesting
and with this technique, you still are saying mantra regardless of weather or not your adding one more or not. In the end you are MILDing.
if you imagine reality as a mirror that can reflect what you tell yourself, you can understand that it does not reflect the furture only the pressent. if you tell yourself "i will have a lucid dream" then it will keep reflecting that you will have one in the future, where as if you tell yourself "i have lucid dreams" then it will reflect that and you are more likely to..
thats just my view though =)
I tried this Mantra when going to sleep this night..; 'I dream this night - I dream this night - I dream this night [..] I dream this night - I dream lucidly this night - I dream this night..' I've had a little progression, but nothing mayor. I do think I will keep using this at least the next couple of days, because victory is in persistence. I really dig your technique by the way, thumbs up! ^.^
Very nice tutorial. My favorite mantras are "I'm dreaming" and "I will have a lucid dram tonight." :)
I'm currently trying out "I'm aware in all my dreams".
I then sometimes change it slightly to "I am aware in all of my dreams".
I think the slight alteration every now and then helps keep it fresh and in focus, and not just sinking into my mind and being lost and muddled.
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Originally Posted by Avalanche
I noticed you posted this a few months ago, how did you get on? :)